The Power of Persistence: A Weekly Journey
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This week, Unquestionable gets intimate and introspective as Chris and Boii B hold it down in a rare two-man cast. No studio audience. No gimmicks. Just real talk about life, love, leveling up—and all the lessons in between:
💔 Missing “her” and learning to grow through heartbreak
🎥 From blurry podcast clips to burning desire for better quality
😤 Fighting off the doubt that creeps in when it doesn’t go as planned
📉 Social media lies, clout-chasing shows, and the age of misinformation
💡 Why failure, fear, and late-night thoughts can be your best teachers
🧠 Critical thinking in the meme era
🏗️ Why men tie self-worth to providing—and how that plays into love
📈 What we’d tell our 18-year-old selves about work, passion, and sacrifice
🛠️ Trade skills, networking, and betting on yourself
👑 Respecting the journey, building legacy, and never faking the grind
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⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00 – Showing up every day & standing for something
02:16 – Love Island talk & early jokes
05:34 – Fake online relationships & clout culture
09:17 – Dating behavior breakdown
11:55 – Fear of being single
16:37 – Growth vs. feeling stagnant
24:28 – Fitting in vs. standing out
31:15 – Random convo & reactions
38:41 – Creating without pressure
42:52 – Reflections on age & maturity
45:05 – Amazon hacks & life tips
48:17 – Wild hypotheticals
52:23 – The 10-year grind paying off
54:59 – Old videos & viral moments
59:55 – What we’d do differently
66:14 – Final thoughts & takeaways
71:41 – Podcast collab talk
75:23 – Wrap-up & sign off
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Transcript
Yeah, you have to show up every day and stand for something and all right.
Speaker A:If I'm going to put this out like we said, we're going to put this podcast out every week.
Speaker A:Shoot.
Speaker A:There's only two of us available.
Speaker A:We're shooting because we have to put this out every week.
Speaker B:I'm fucking trying.
Speaker A:No, it's dead ass.
Speaker A:Like, that's what I look at in.
Speaker B:I'm fighting for my life.
Speaker B:What's happening, y'?
Speaker B:All?
Speaker B:You got unquestionable, the podcast here.
Speaker B:You got Boy B and Big Civvy here.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:We're here in the building.
Speaker B:Today's a little small casted, but, you know, we got the biggest and the bestest host in the building.
Speaker B:No, no shade like that.
Speaker B:But I'm still saying, oh, it's like that, I guess.
Speaker B:But in the sense of us two being here are the two co hosts couldn't make it today.
Speaker B:So we're just here to give the people what they want, baby.
Speaker B:Unquestionable yurt.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you're seeing a little different environment this time.
Speaker A:We're a little more intimate.
Speaker A:Just chilling.
Speaker B:Cuz we're like, snuggled up.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:No, but it.
Speaker B:I still got my shoes on.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Why do.
Speaker A:Too much.
Speaker A:If it's just going to be the two of us, might as well just, you know, plans.
Speaker B:Plans come into play and then plans come into fail.
Speaker B:So what are you going to do?
Speaker B:You got to make the best of it and work what you got, you.
Speaker A:Know, and we've just had such a busy schedule lately, everybody.
Speaker A:So it's like.
Speaker B:Yeah, true that.
Speaker A:It's been tough because we got people.
Speaker B:Got lives to live, you know, at the same time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we got a posting schedule to uphold, which is pretty tough to.
Speaker B:We can.
Speaker B:Hey.
Speaker B:Or we can discriminate.
Speaker A:So which one you doing?
Speaker B:I'm kind of hating.
Speaker B:Only because discriminating, I think is a stronger hate, you know?
Speaker A:What do you mean?
Speaker B:But hate is a strong word, too.
Speaker B:So I like to say dislike, but.
Speaker A:At the same time, what's your strongest dislike?
Speaker B:My strongest dislike is the fact that the other two co hosts couldn't make it today, but it's okay.
Speaker B:What are you gonna do?
Speaker B:The show must go on.
Speaker B:I know it's been said once, we're gonna say it twice.
Speaker A:The show must go.
Speaker B:That's what it is, baby.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker A:Hey, the real stars are here.
Speaker A:I'm just kidding.
Speaker A:Hey, Fuji.
Speaker A:I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:Bucci claims to be the star.
Speaker B:I don't know no star that don't be showing up for his own shine.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Hey, hooda.
Speaker A:Could never.
Speaker A:I'm just playing.
Speaker A:I'm playing.
Speaker A:Hey, have you been watching Love Island?
Speaker B:Nah, dude, I haven't.
Speaker B:Only because.
Speaker B:Because last summer I was watching Love island with the one I love.
Speaker B:No, straight up.
Speaker B:I left my heart in season six.
Speaker B:No lie.
Speaker B:So I haven't watched the new season.
Speaker A:I left my heart in season six.
Speaker A:What are you talking about?
Speaker A:Hey, that's a.
Speaker A:That's a quote.
Speaker B:Straight up.
Speaker B:Like, yo, like season six.
Speaker A:Dude.
Speaker B:Yeah, season six have my heart, bro.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker A:No, it's lit, though.
Speaker A:My girl be watching it.
Speaker A:So the new one's not lit, but.
Speaker B:Like, you know, it's crazy, bro.
Speaker B:My sister be trying to put it on.
Speaker B:I'm like, yo, turn that off.
Speaker B:I'm not trying to see it.
Speaker A:It's funny, bro.
Speaker B:It's good.
Speaker B:I've been hearing about it.
Speaker B:But that's what's up.
Speaker A:Like, people are delusional, dog.
Speaker A:You put them into a nice villa for a couple days and you'll really see some people, like, go crazy, dog.
Speaker A:Like, you just have to even.
Speaker B:I've even been seeing, like, on, because I. I don't have social media.
Speaker B:I only have Tick tock.
Speaker B:So on TikTok, I see people talking about how, like.
Speaker B:Because I haven't even seen any of the episodes, but I know, like, a few characters and not even characters.
Speaker B:I know a few reality stars in the show.
Speaker B:And from what has been going on, I just hear that it's like more of a.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's Cloud island more than Love Island.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Strategic.
Speaker A:Supposedly two of them, like, are low key already dating and talking.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Yeah, and the producers were just doing their thing, making sure motherfuckers came on.
Speaker A:Supposedly they're trying to, like, finesse the system, but they've, like, already been together type shit.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker A:There was a video.
Speaker A:It's the Fool.
Speaker A:You know, the fool who does, like, the little dances and he teaches the Indian fools over Skype, where he'll teach him how to do, like, little, like, American dances.
Speaker A:Have you seen that?
Speaker B:I think I've seen something about it.
Speaker B:I think I've seen something.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that dude, he's on the show.
Speaker B:He claims to have, like, a dance studio, but it's like, just Instagram.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, but he's viral.
Speaker A:He's viral and he's funny, bro.
Speaker A:But yeah, basically him and the girl go on the show and supposedly they've been known each other, like they've Been dating, talking type.
Speaker A:I mean, there's hella people just throwing it out there, but you know how social media is.
Speaker A:But you can't believe anything.
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker A:Like, there are these pages that are dedicated now to, like, different streamers and taking cuts from their streams and, like, throwing them totally out of context.
Speaker A:Like, they'll, like, have Phantom saying some.
Speaker A:And they'll be like, phantom just came out the closet.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:We'll just throw it.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Yeah, I've ran into those because, like I said, I only have tick tock and like.
Speaker B:Like, that's all I have for social media.
Speaker B:So I run into, like, a lot of, like, AI or if not just, like, fake, like, bro, like, people be like, rip people.
Speaker B:You ever see those?
Speaker B:Like, the Rip, like, this streamer or whatever, bro.
Speaker A:I just saw that the other day.
Speaker A:Rip this fool.
Speaker A:And it just ended up being like, he got denied by a girl or something.
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker B:For real.
Speaker A:I'm like, relax, bro.
Speaker A:Y' all putting that into.
Speaker B:It happens, yo, but people are getting, like, tears out and you'll be back.
Speaker A:It's like the.
Speaker A:It's like the age of misinformation, though.
Speaker A:Like, you even see, like, nbl, NBA sent until.
Speaker A:And all those, like, little meme pages.
Speaker A:Like, Bronnie, literally, they said, bronnie accepts a three year, ninety million dollar contractors.
Speaker B:Ronnie went back to the G League.
Speaker B:He's down.
Speaker A:Yeah, they basically said some fake.
Speaker A:And Bronnie quoted it and was like, disrespectful because, like, it was so, like.
Speaker B:Hey, don't count me out.
Speaker A:But it was like, yeah, it was such a fake, like, contract, but people believe it.
Speaker A:You have hell of people retweeting.
Speaker B:And that's the thing, too, about the Internet.
Speaker B:You got to, like, really understand and know what's real and what's not.
Speaker B:Cuz, like, I'll be seeing some, like, what the.
Speaker B:And then I'm like, that's just some trolls.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Hey, shout out high school English, bro.
Speaker A:You got to cite your sources.
Speaker A:If you can't.
Speaker A:If you can't go find.
Speaker A:If you can't go find some backup evidence, just don't believe it until it comes out from another source.
Speaker B:Like, truthfully, like, you got to just know to, like, see that.
Speaker B:You know, you got to, like, have a clear mind to understand, like, what's real and what's.
Speaker A:And it's bad because so many people are caught up in the reality of what they think.
Speaker B:Quick to, like, run with the narrative of whatever.
Speaker A:Whatever out there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they think what they see is law.
Speaker A:And it's like, bro, you gotta have a little bit.
Speaker A:You gotta have a little bit of like, you know, critical thinking for yourself.
Speaker A:You can't just depend on what you read.
Speaker B:And that's almost crazy, too, to just be so gullible like that.
Speaker B:Like, how are you just gonna let, like, hey, like you say, the one's what slave stand for nothing fall for anything.
Speaker A:Yeah, but it's also.
Speaker A:It's also like some people, that's all they know.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:They don't.
Speaker A:Like, they don't know nothing but what they.
Speaker A:Everybody, realistically, if you think about it, like, even us, right?
Speaker A:Not all of our thoughts are our own thoughts.
Speaker A:A lot of it is our environment, the people around us, the media we choose to indulge in and the.
Speaker A:Like this, our interests.
Speaker A:Like, those things all kind of combine into, you know, who we are.
Speaker A:So it's like a lot of who we are isn't necessarily ourselves.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:But you got to be able to be open to seeing, I guess, other too.
Speaker A:You can't just think like, oh, cuz you saw it, it's real.
Speaker A:Like, you got to be open.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker B:And that's the truth.
Speaker A:You got to be open to realizing, like, damn.
Speaker A:Some people just say to say.
Speaker B:And that's even crazy, bro.
Speaker B:Like, why do people just say to say, like, who are you?
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:To misinform people and to make people just go into a frenzy.
Speaker B:Like, there's people like that, huh?
Speaker B:That just want to get under people's skin.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I think Kev said it last week or something.
Speaker A:He's like, bro, it's the hate.
Speaker A:It's like meme pages and everything.
Speaker A:Like, memes and everything are just.
Speaker A:It's all hate now.
Speaker A:And it's like, that's what's cool, that's what's funny now, is just because it's.
Speaker B:So easy to just hate on somebody.
Speaker B:It's so easy.
Speaker A:So easy to pick what's the funniest thing about something.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And that's like the worst thing, too, to like.
Speaker B:That's the worst characteristic to have about yourself.
Speaker B:If you can easily nitpick at somebody, you're a bad person.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're a bad person.
Speaker B:Check yourself out.
Speaker A:And it shows a lot about how your brain is wired.
Speaker A:Because ultimately, like, that glass half empty, glass half full is real.
Speaker A:If you look at something for.
Speaker A:And like, Train your brain to be like grateful for the things you have or like, look at what is positive out of a situation.
Speaker A:You're going to always leave a situation thinking like, oh, well, at least this happened.
Speaker A:But if you train yourself to look at only what went wrong, it's like everything went right, but this went wrong.
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker A:It's not good.
Speaker A:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, you have to take your wins with your losses, your losses with your wins, but you have to be positive when you're looking out at it.
Speaker A:And you know, some people just aren't that way.
Speaker A:Yeah, some people are just wired different.
Speaker B:You know, some people just ain't been humbled enough.
Speaker A:You know, life will hungry.
Speaker B:Life will.
Speaker B:Life will take.
Speaker B:Teach for lesson or three.
Speaker A:No, but.
Speaker A:All right, so I got a question for you, bro.
Speaker A:What's been keeping you up at night?
Speaker B:O.
Speaker A:It could be a conspiracy, it could be a deep thought, it could be serious, ridiculous, whatever you want.
Speaker A:But what has been keeping you up all night?
Speaker B:Her.
Speaker A:Are you serious, though?
Speaker A:Like, you always say you miss her, but I'm like, who's her, dude, who's her?
Speaker B:Are you her?
Speaker B:Are you her?
Speaker A:Is you her?
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker A:N elaborate.
Speaker B:I mean, just.
Speaker B:I don't know, bro.
Speaker B:I feel like in life you just go through things.
Speaker B:I feel like, yeah, bro, I miss her, bro.
Speaker B:I'm not going to lie.
Speaker B:I miss her.
Speaker A:Who's her?
Speaker B:Her, bro, she know who she is, bro.
Speaker B:If she going to watch it, she going to watch it.
Speaker B:If not, it's for the birds, you know.
Speaker A:You think she watches?
Speaker B:Has to.
Speaker B:I think so.
Speaker B:So I hope so.
Speaker A:Like, you think X tings watch?
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker B:I ex tings.
Speaker A:That's like main character syndrome, isn't it?
Speaker B:Whoa, man, that's like, damn.
Speaker A:She's stopping her whole life on Friday night to watch you.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:That's what you think?
Speaker B:No, I don't know.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker B:You got me think crazy now, bro.
Speaker B:No, I think she do.
Speaker B:She do be watching.
Speaker B:I hope she do, cuz this is all I got right here.
Speaker B:But I don't know where she going to put my.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:She ain't seen me nowhere.
Speaker A:You hear me?
Speaker B:I'm not outside side like that.
Speaker B:I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker A:You said you're on Facebook looking for wholesome.
Speaker B:I'm on Facebook looking for wholesome shorties and she a wholesome one.
Speaker B:That's why I'm like, yo, what's up?
Speaker A:You know what you should do.
Speaker A:You should start going on like Facebook marketplace and bidding on just mirrors.
Speaker B:Mirrors?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Cuz you go see who's taking the picture of the mirror.
Speaker B:What is wrong with you?
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker B:That's your strategic.
Speaker A:No, I see that right now.
Speaker B:You go single.
Speaker B:What's your strategic route to find the strategy?
Speaker B:Sorting.
Speaker A:I don't need one.
Speaker A:No, I would.
Speaker B:I know you don't need one.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I was saying that because I saw it on social media.
Speaker A:But no, if I was single, bro, I pour into myself.
Speaker A:I feel like literally the more positive things you, like, do and you know, I don't know, I think good karma and all that shit's real.
Speaker A:I think speaking things into existence is real.
Speaker A:I think like, the more positive you do, the more positive comes back to you.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I would just pour into like being as positive as I can now that I am who I am now.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Back in the day, I would have took that and probably compartmentalized it and, you know, was depressed for hella weeks and stuff.
Speaker A:But realistically, like nowadays I would just have to.
Speaker A:But that would be tough, bro looking.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't even want to think about it.
Speaker B:Oh, man, you're funny.
Speaker B:And being single ain't bad, you know, if you're single, you're single.
Speaker B:Single man, live life, have a good time.
Speaker B:Female, Female or male?
Speaker B:Like, if you're single, just have a good time, enjoy your life.
Speaker A:Definitely.
Speaker A:I'm not saying that's a bad thing.
Speaker B:I'm just saying it's not a bad thing to be single.
Speaker B:Like, for me, I'm not stressing being single, but at the same time, I was like, man, I used to stress being single.
Speaker B:I used to stress just being single, actually.
Speaker B:Like, I didn't want to be in a relationship.
Speaker B:I, like, I never wanted one.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Just because, like, you were just afraid to be single.
Speaker B:I wasn't afraid to be.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker B:No, no, I wasn't afraid to be single.
Speaker B:I was like, afraid to get into a relationship that I didn't need to be in.
Speaker A:Oh, I was the same way.
Speaker B:To this day, I think that's what, like that's my biggest feeling into a relationship that I do not need to be in.
Speaker B:But it's like now that I realize, like, what I've been through and the women that I've been through, it's like, you know what, the last girl that I was with, I should have just manned up and been with her because she was, she was a good friend, a good person and just a wholesome girl, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And like for me at the time though, like I will say I was not ready for me respectfully, I was looking out for her because I would have done her not right, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:In the sense, like I would have not done her right.
Speaker B:I would have not done her justice.
Speaker B:I would have not been the man that she needed me to be, you know.
Speaker B:Saying for me I didn't feel like the man I needed to be for her.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that's why like I say too, like I was looking out for her because I, I had too much respect for her to make her look some type of way, you know?
Speaker A:No, definitely.
Speaker B:And now when I was ready, time was not on my side, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:She was on to bigger and better things in this life, is what it is.
Speaker A:And I think a lot of us men have the same flaw.
Speaker A:Like where we're like, we're so picky or particular with who we like invest our energy and time into because we've probably had some type of trauma or something that holds that makes you think about like all the time lost or just things that have gone on, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Crazy head game.
Speaker A:Like no for sure.
Speaker B:If you like the girl, say what's up?
Speaker A:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:Cuz when you do like somebody, you, you, you get so vulnerable, you make yourself look crazy.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Because it's whatever.
Speaker B:I like you, shorty.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker B:This is what it is like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:If you think about it, that first stage of liking a girl, you, you're kind of like a goofy like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like you're over here like sitting here looking thirsty but not trying to be thirsty, but try to not.
Speaker A:Okay, let's not say thirsty.
Speaker A:You're probably playing it cool but like realistically you for sure you feel thirsty.
Speaker B:Like you're like showing too, too much.
Speaker B:Not too much but like you're just showing a lot of attention or like.
Speaker A:And it's like I feel like for us guys a lot of times you could like a girl.
Speaker A:You still like I'm not in the right place or just.
Speaker A:There's a lot of, there's a lot of things and like we've talked about in the previous couple episodes where, you know, we can't keep compartmentalizing or just you know, holding ourselves back because of fears or because of other things.
Speaker A:We have to actually work on healing rather than just holding it in because that's all it is.
Speaker B:Even like I'd be talking to my homegirls and they'd be saying like, yeah, yeah, these guys, they don't even know what they want nowadays.
Speaker B:I'm like, I don't blame them.
Speaker B:But at the same time, like, they need to wake up.
Speaker B:Cuz me, I need to wake up too.
Speaker B:And see I had a good one in front of me and I was over here still stressing about the problems I was going through when I had somebody who was willing to be there for me when I was down and out, willing to still show me a good time when I was down out, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:It's like, do you think any of that has anything to do with like the times we're in and accessibility of today and like social media?
Speaker A:You see all these things you like.
Speaker B:That'S like one thing too.
Speaker B:Like we had that podcast with Ima shout out to ima.
Speaker B:People don't realize like what they have in front of them because they're always looking at somebody else's lane.
Speaker B:They're looking at somebody else's lawn and not realizing you need to be watering your own.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, comparison is the thief of all joy.
Speaker A:We talk about that all the time.
Speaker B:I see like that's where I saw in myself, like as a man I didn't have with other men had for me to be feeling like a man to give to a woman.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Why do you want to be with me?
Speaker B:Like I'm not even who I want to be myself.
Speaker B:Like I and even said like that podcast was like, yeah, I want to be the guy to be able to pay for this and pay for that and have this way and that way and my shorty be at home with the kids and the whole nine.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:As I feel like you do.
Speaker B:Any man does the American dream to any man to be able to provide in that way, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, and we talked about that last week.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:Yeah, we think like love is low key, partially providing.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it comes down to the point where if you just have an honest shorty with you to where she's down to work and help out too.
Speaker B:Hey, let her help out.
Speaker B:You know, business on yourself.
Speaker B:If you can take your business on yourself, hey, the power to you.
Speaker B:But if not the both you together creating an empire like you just said.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's the way to do it.
Speaker B:That's the American dream.
Speaker B:Right there, bro.
Speaker B:And I tell, like, a lot of people too, that talk to me about relationships because my age, I have a lot of young cats who.
Speaker B:That ask me about that.
Speaker B:I'm just telling like, bro, if you got a good one with you, just stick with her.
Speaker B:Find what it is about her that you could change.
Speaker B:And if not change, like, just how you can, like, find a way to accept that about her.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And another big thing people forget is you're supposed to elevate each other.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're never supposed to feel stagnant because you're never supposed to feel like it's enough.
Speaker A:You're supposed to want to make her life better and you're supposed to want her to make you better.
Speaker A:You want her to, like, push you to.
Speaker B:You don't want no petty shit.
Speaker B:Yes, get back at me, get back at you.
Speaker B:Revenge.
Speaker B:Like, that's not the way.
Speaker A:You don't want somebody who slows you down or, or lets you feel complacent, that what you're doing is enough.
Speaker A:You want somebody who looks at you and says everything you're doing is so respectable and commendable, but you're, you're capable of so much more because that's the only way you're going to believe it yourself.
Speaker A:And realistically, we're our biggest enemies where we hold our back feeling like we're not capable of.
Speaker A:We can could have done two years ago had we just stepped up like we talked about earlier.
Speaker A:We could have done this five years ago.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And like, we even talked about, like with our friends too.
Speaker B:It's like, yo, you, you in a situation right now where you about to elevate.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, you about to elevate right now.
Speaker B:You doing your thing.
Speaker B:You on the timeline to do it.
Speaker B:You on the, like you on the track, but you about to elevate once.
Speaker B:You about to.
Speaker B:And then you do elevate.
Speaker B:Time was happening.
Speaker B:It all took time.
Speaker B:Baby, he was crying.
Speaker B:Look at you now, baby, we cheering, we celebrating you.
Speaker B:You know, that's what it is.
Speaker B:It all takes time.
Speaker B:It all takes patience.
Speaker B:With everything you're trying to do, relationship wise, job wise, starting anything up wise, like, you just.
Speaker B:It takes time and patience.
Speaker B:And them tears will come, them sweats will come.
Speaker B:You might shed some blood.
Speaker B:I don't know how dangerous it can get, but it will happen.
Speaker B:You are going to go through every emotion, going through what you trying to go through and where you trying to get with relationship wise and everything I just said it's going to take time, and you need to be willing to.
Speaker B:Wanting to put yourself there to elevate.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:No, for sure.
Speaker B:And that's where I'm at now.
Speaker B:Like, I'm.
Speaker B:Like I said, like you asked me, what keeps me up at night.
Speaker B:Her money, my job, all these things, bro.
Speaker B:But it's like, it's.
Speaker B:It's normal.
Speaker B:That's like, right?
Speaker B:As a man, you go through these things, and I'm trying to just do what I can to be a family man, to be a good man, to be the man.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Yeah, because that's all I want to show my daddy.
Speaker A:No, for sure.
Speaker B:That's all I want to do, baby.
Speaker A:If you were to reverse that question to me, I'd be saying, honestly, failure, like, whether it's fear of it, whether it's learning from it, whether whatever it is, that's what keeps me up at night.
Speaker A:When we up on this podcast and we have somebody a little out of focus to the point where clips turn up a little more blurry than they should be, I feel that.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:That keeps me up, like, damn, what could I have done?
Speaker B:I'm learning of everything, too.
Speaker B:Because even too, like, when you show me this and I'm like, I don't think it looks that bad, but you see the detail of it, and that's where, like, the passion of what you're trying to do comes to.
Speaker B:Because, like me, like I said, it looks good, dog.
Speaker B:And then you're like.
Speaker B:And then you show me the next.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, I see what she was talking about.
Speaker B:I see what she was talking about.
Speaker A:And I feel like I do that at work.
Speaker A:I feel like I do that a lot where it's like, it happens too.
Speaker B:Like, you guys speak and say what you got to say, too, because if not, your ideas will never get spoken into existence, and people will not see you as that.
Speaker B:That individual to bring the ideas to the table.
Speaker B:Yeah, but if you just agreeing with everything, okay, He a yes man.
Speaker B:But now he coming with ideas.
Speaker B:Okay, we can.
Speaker B:And they might not be the best, but he got ideas, and we can learn from these ideas and we can progress with these ideas.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But I also think, like, if you're okay with not your.
Speaker A:If you're okay with not the best you can do, like, what are you really doing?
Speaker A:Like, whether it be at work, whether it be the podcast, whether it be anything, for me, like, if I see something is not as best as it could Be.
Speaker A:Why not improve it?
Speaker A:Like, if, If I have the capability.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:There are certain things that are out of your control.
Speaker A:Trust me.
Speaker A:If you can't get an 8K camera, like, we're.
Speaker A:We're rocking with 4K, bro.
Speaker A:We're not getting nothing.
Speaker A:Nothing higher like, that I can't control.
Speaker A:But like, if it's something I can control, like, like I said, a focus issue, or if it's something like at work that I can control, bro, that shit's gonna keep me up.
Speaker A:Because all I know is I don't want to sit there and look like stupid in a sense or nothing like that.
Speaker A:But I also don't want that to.
Speaker A:To domino into the next problem or domino into the next episode or people just look at us as like a not quality podcast in a sense.
Speaker A:Like, I want people to look at us.
Speaker A:You get where I'm coming from.
Speaker A:Like, I just want.
Speaker A:I want anybody to see anything with my name on it and just be like, oh, he's at least giving it his all.
Speaker A:Like, that's all I want is respect.
Speaker B:People too.
Speaker B:Like, they see our.
Speaker B:And they're like, yo, your is top notch, bro.
Speaker B:And it's like, that's what we were striving for for the whole time.
Speaker B:Like, we was never on.
Speaker B:No, I know, budgie.
Speaker B:Like, we was really trying to like, from the get go, make it seem like we was here already.
Speaker A:Yeah, we went with.
Speaker A:We were shooting with iPhones and we had a whole set build.
Speaker A:Like, most people wouldn't do that, but like, for us, we wanted it to look legit.
Speaker B:Really f it till we made it.
Speaker B:And we.
Speaker B:We haven't made it.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:No, not even.
Speaker B:We haven't made it.
Speaker B:And we're not faking it so much now, but like, we're like, now we're on top of it now we kind of have an experience now we kind of have like, we have word of mouth to say, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, take from experience.
Speaker B:This is how we did it.
Speaker A:You know, but not saying, we're not saying we are established or anything, but we.
Speaker A:We've went through some speed bumps.
Speaker A:We could tell you what speed bumps we went through and now we got out of them.
Speaker B:But once we out there in Atlanta and we got the big old house and shit, I'm gonna tell you, like, yeah, we fucking.
Speaker B:We was.
Speaker B:We was here and now we up here.
Speaker B:You hear me?
Speaker B:And that's what it's gonna be, bro.
Speaker B:And everybody gonna be like, oh, yeah, we see it now.
Speaker B:And it's like, yeah.
Speaker B:And I'M gonna see you when you get there because you talking to me like equals.
Speaker B:Because I don't see nobody below or me.
Speaker B:All I want to do is see everybody do the same thing I'm trying to do for show.
Speaker B:Like, because I can do it.
Speaker B:You can do it.
Speaker B:No, Cap, No.
Speaker B:That's all I've ever wanted to do, bro.
Speaker B:That's why, like, for me, with everything we trying to do, I just want to show the youngins, the kids you can do whatever the you want to do.
Speaker B:It does not matter whether it's whatever you can do whatever you want to do.
Speaker B:You just put your ass behind it and you get going.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Just show up every time.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker A:And that's one thing I talk about all the time.
Speaker B:For yourself.
Speaker A:Yeah, I talk about that all the time with the podcast.
Speaker A:Whether it's posting, whether it's showing up, shooting and everything.
Speaker A:Like, it's not easy, it's not fun, fun all the time.
Speaker A:And people probably look at it like it's fun because we want to do it.
Speaker A:Don't get me wrong.
Speaker A:Like, the podcast as a whole is fun, but there be weeks.
Speaker A:Everybody has their weeks.
Speaker A:Like, everybody has days where they don't want to get out of bed and have to go travel to go do some like, I want to call it sick sometimes, bro.
Speaker A:Last week we did not want to have to do that.
Speaker A:And it didn't turn out how we wanted it to, but what did we do?
Speaker A:We pursued and just did what we had to do and just stayed persistent.
Speaker B:Like, not everything is always going to work out.
Speaker B:You're always going to have that flat tire.
Speaker B:You're always going to have that bump in the road.
Speaker B:You're always going to have something happen to where it is, what it is, and you gotta just see it's gonna just prove to who you really are and how you can overcome what you're going through, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, and that's like where it comes down to, like, who you are and who are the people around you too.
Speaker B:Like, when it comes down to everything, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Because you're never alone in the situations that you're in, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:No, you're always asking for help for sure.
Speaker B:You're always looking for a way out.
Speaker B:But in the long run, you have to have yourself and you have to have a good team and a strong team behind you.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:No, definitely.
Speaker A:And that Takes me right into the next one.
Speaker A:If you were to have to restart life, you to go to age 13 with your current knowledge that you have right now, what would you do?
Speaker B:Thirteen, what grade are we in?
Speaker A:Like 13?
Speaker A:Is that like sixth grade?
Speaker A:Seventh grade?
Speaker B:I think at 13, I wouldn't have let, I wouldn't have let my friends really judge the way that I looked at myself and the way that I live my life, you know, I mean.
Speaker A:You wouldn't try to fit in as much.
Speaker A:I would have, I wouldn't have been an individual.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because I didn't need to fit in, you know, I'm saying because.
Speaker B:And that's what I hated.
Speaker B:I, I, because if you know who I really am, like, if you know who I am, bro, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm very funny, I'm very outgoing.
Speaker B:I'm very like the person that people like, want to be around.
Speaker B:But back then, like, I felt like I had to be like, like I always had to be the person.
Speaker B:Like I always had to be that, like, I always had to be cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And sometimes it didn't work out for me to where like, some people were like, who is this guy?
Speaker B:To come to find out, like, the people that didn't like me for that, for being too cool was because they could see that, like, in reality I was just a simple kid.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Being too cool anyway, too cool didn't.
Speaker B:Work out sometimes all the time for me.
Speaker A:I would agree with that because for me too, it's like my biggest thing is I would tell myself to believe in myself because I was an individual.
Speaker A:I did do things that nobody else was doing or wanted to do were things.
Speaker A:And that's, that was okay.
Speaker A:I didn't have to worry about people accepting me.
Speaker A:I didn't have to worry about everybody thinking it was as cool as I thought it was.
Speaker A:Like, I should have just thought if I thought it was cool, that was enough.
Speaker A:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And that's what I would want.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Because like, even when it came to like, cuz, bro, I mean, to this day you still get bagged on for the clothes you wear, right?
Speaker A:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:Back in the day, bro, I was very, like, I was very, to this day, I'm very expressful with the way I dress because, like, I never, I never wanted to look like somebody.
Speaker B:I never wanted somebody to look like me.
Speaker B:I always wanted to be me.
Speaker B:And if I saw somebody like, like inspiration, I wanted to take it and run with it.
Speaker B:And I show up to school with that.
Speaker B:And what are you wearing?
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker B:It's like, what?
Speaker B:Dude, I'm me, baby.
Speaker B:That's what I'm doing.
Speaker B:Come to find out this trend's cool.
Speaker B:Like, in the next two, three years, you know, it's like, man, I was doing that back then, but like, for then, like, even then, back then, thinking about it, it's like, I wish I just wouldn't have let people just judge me and let it really hit me so hard, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I wish I would have been okay with people saying what they had to say to me because nowadays I'm in one ear, out the other.
Speaker B:I don't give a what you have to say about me because I know who the I am and I know how I believe in myself and what I believe in myself.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Because, like, no, I definitely.
Speaker B:The truth is in the pudding.
Speaker A:I definitely agree.
Speaker A:And I feel like for me too, I was the same way.
Speaker A:I was very expressive with my style for a long time.
Speaker A:And then as I got older, it turned.
Speaker A:Like, now you see me, I'm just wearing blacks a lot.
Speaker A:Like, I'm in darks.
Speaker B:And that's like, it's.
Speaker A:It's turned into me bead.
Speaker A:Like, very.
Speaker A:The opposite.
Speaker A:Almost like I'm just very plain with my clothing because of maybe.
Speaker A:I don't know if it's that, but, like, I do wish that just if I thought things were cool, that was enough for me.
Speaker A:When I was younger, like, I used to always worry about, like, what the army would say or what the shorties would say or whatever.
Speaker A:And it's like, bro, if.
Speaker A:If I wanted to make music and I wanted to put it out, put it out.
Speaker A:Don't worry about a certain amount of views or this or that.
Speaker A:And I just feel like I let so much shit consume me at a young age.
Speaker A:That didn't matter.
Speaker B:It didn't, huh?
Speaker B:Because it's crazy too, because, like, at our age now, and when I see these young cats on their social medias and doing what they're doing, it's like, damn, these kids, they don't give a.
Speaker B:When I was like, yo, I gave.
Speaker A:A. I would have been warrior.
Speaker A:You're doing this.
Speaker A:Like, I would have thought that was corny.
Speaker A:When I was like, yeah, it's like, damn, was that just in my head or was it actually corny?
Speaker A:Like, I really wonder.
Speaker B:Thinking back, too.
Speaker B:I even think about it too, is like, damn, like, no one really gave a.
Speaker B:No one.
Speaker B:Like, you know, I mean, like, for real, no one really gave a.
Speaker B:You could have done whatever the.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:And it was just.
Speaker B:We were young, we were done.
Speaker B:We were stupid.
Speaker B:We were kids.
Speaker B:We had.
Speaker B:We didn't have that mentality to say, like, you're not cool.
Speaker B:You're not.
Speaker B:Whatever the it may be, right?
Speaker A:And realistically, everybody only gave a.
Speaker A:About what affected themselves.
Speaker A:Like, you only matter to the people that you mattered to.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And there's certain that where it's like, you're small.
Speaker B:Click that.
Speaker A:Yeah, pop.
Speaker A:And as you get older, you realize, like, damn, I shouldn't have put so much investment in people who weren't invested.
Speaker B:In me at all who didn't give a. Yeah, for real.
Speaker A:They were too caught up on Courtney and Ashley or whatever when you were straight up, too.
Speaker B:Like, it's sad to say, bro, I do not have, like, the day one homies that I kick it with back in the day like that.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, I wish.
Speaker B:Like, I don't.
Speaker B:Like, I straight up don't.
Speaker B:And I feel like for me, like, it kind of it with my head in a way, because, like, I don't.
Speaker B:I don't have, like, my childhood friends like that.
Speaker B:But the people that I have gained outside of, like, my school years, like, the friends that I've made, yeah, those are truly.
Speaker B:And like, honestly, the people that, like, believe in me and truly, like, accept me for me and, like, whatever I have to do or whatever I have to offer, they're like, yeah, dude, that's ex.
Speaker B:Like, that's you.
Speaker B:Like, that's you.
Speaker B:That makes perfect sense of why you want to do that.
Speaker B:Like, that's you.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And it just shows to me, like, damn, like, when you have a good, solid foundation of people behind you, like, you can just.
Speaker B:You don't give a fuck what anybody really thinks.
Speaker A:Not for sure, because that then as.
Speaker B:A kid, like, you had your own boys, right?
Speaker B:But you were stressing if homie found out he was listening to fucking Carly Rae Jepsen when that one song, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Yeah, he was like, he was not.
Speaker B:They cannot find out about that.
Speaker A:And I definitely feel that's where I got lucky.
Speaker A:I feel like I had homies, like, at a young age that, like, accepted me for me.
Speaker A:And they also were very much like me, where they, like with Kev, with Bucci.
Speaker A:I think that's why we got so tight at a young age was because our interests align.
Speaker A:Like, we kind of like, fed into what each other liked in a sense.
Speaker A:But I Just wish we would have trusted ourselves more.
Speaker A:I just wish we would have.
Speaker A:We didn't always have to be mysterious.
Speaker A:We didn't always have to be like, you know, like, I was trying to like, be not.
Speaker A:You know, I wanted to be known, but I wanted to be like, thought about.
Speaker A:It's like, why did that even matter?
Speaker A:Just put it out.
Speaker A:People who with you are gonna.
Speaker A:With you.
Speaker A:If they don't, they don't.
Speaker A:It is what it is.
Speaker B:That's one thing about me too.
Speaker B:Like, I wanted to be so rockstar status to where it's like, you know what?
Speaker B:Whatever I wanted to do regardless, like, I would have turned rockstar status, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Because had you just tried.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker A:You look at all these streamers and, like, look at ddg.
Speaker A:We talked about that.
Speaker A:Like, there was a point where that fool was looked at as a.
Speaker A:Just straight cornball.
Speaker A:And right now he's looked at as a rock star.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Because he's consistent.
Speaker A:Because he shows up every day.
Speaker B:He don't like his music.
Speaker B:And the way that he just.
Speaker B:Just presents himself on camera is just like.
Speaker B:He's just.
Speaker B:He's just showing the folks, like, what he does on a daily basis, like, how he lives his life.
Speaker B:Like, cat has money.
Speaker B:Cat's gonna spend money.
Speaker B:And that's what it is.
Speaker B:He's hanging out with baddies.
Speaker B:He's hanging out with successful.
Speaker B:He's out there with Ty Lil.
Speaker B:He's hanging out with, like, people who have worked their asses off to get where they're trying to get to.
Speaker B:And it's like, DDG been doing it and these streamers are trying to get there and they've already reached that point.
Speaker B:And it's like, now everybody's just having a good time, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:To where.
Speaker B:Like, that's where I'm trying to get to.
Speaker B:Like, we worked our asses off to get to where they're at.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To where it's like, now we're worried there with them.
Speaker B:We're just having a good time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And what's crazy is when you're working your ass off a lot of times, like, if you were in where you were, like, we talked about it earlier.
Speaker A:If we were who.
Speaker A:Who we were two years ago, we would look at what we're doing now and just be so amazed and be like, damn.
Speaker A:So that's so cool.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, but when you're caught up in working, all you're thinking about is just, I'm not there yet.
Speaker A:I'm not there yet.
Speaker A:I need more.
Speaker A:I need the next one.
Speaker A:I need the next bigger one.
Speaker A:This, that, the other is oftentimes hard to just sit down and be like, it's even crazy what I'm doing is.
Speaker B:All thinking like, yeah, I can't wait till this shit pays off.
Speaker B:And we're just living lavish.
Speaker B:It's like fog.
Speaker B:When.
Speaker B:Yeah, when, yeah, it's taking forever.
Speaker B:It won't be forever though.
Speaker A:It will be forever.
Speaker A:It's not going to take me.
Speaker A:It's not taking forever.
Speaker B:But when it does happen, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna look back and be like, damn, remember that.
Speaker B:Remember that, bro.
Speaker B:You go back and do it.
Speaker A:And that's the thing is I'd go back.
Speaker A:Honestly, tell me this.
Speaker A:If you could go back to the beginning of all this, would you do anything different?
Speaker A:Like, I would go back and I'd do it all the same if I had to.
Speaker A:Realistically, like, I would just continue showing up.
Speaker A:I would continue the whole show, the whole deal.
Speaker A:What do you mean?
Speaker B:Is that what you're asking me, like, to do the whole show again?
Speaker B:Like, would I go back to when we first started doing everything?
Speaker A:Yeah, like, would you do stuff differently?
Speaker A:I'm saying, like, I would just keep showing up, you know, the only thing.
Speaker B:The only thing I would change, I actually, I don't know.
Speaker B:Only because, Only because it gets hard.
Speaker B:Only because it gets hard and it's really hard.
Speaker B:And I think people have seen it with like, with like boy bands and just groups in general.
Speaker B:It's, it's very hard to, to come together with multiple, like minded individuals, but also at the same time they have different concepts and different ideas to come to the table, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's very hard to get four different personalities on camera, on a platform to come together to do something, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And to where I would say, like, I would, I wouldn't say do it differently because it is hard and it is tough and we do bicker and we do butt heads, but at the end of the day, like, we're brothers and we, we have, we.
Speaker B:I wouldn't trade y' all for nothing.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, the relationship that we've grown and the friendship that we have, and it's not even a friendship, it's just the brotherhood that we have.
Speaker B:Like, I don't ever, I don't.
Speaker B:Because, like, I don't have friends, honestly.
Speaker B:I have family members, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To where it's like, I wouldn't trade y' all in for nothing.
Speaker B:But for anyone coming into a podcast with multiple people, I would say it's, it's tough and you're going to be bickering, you're going to be fighting, you're going to be, you know, at each other's heads.
Speaker B:But you just got to remember, like, why you wanted to do this and why you're about it.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Because, like, for me, I always say, like, God, I wish it was just us two or us three or us, whatever it may be.
Speaker B:But at, the longer I think about, it's like, nah, that's my dog, that's my people.
Speaker B:I would never leave nobody behind.
Speaker B:I would never, I would never not do something without somebody that I started something with.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:To where it was like, I, I, I, I'm gonna say it's just hard.
Speaker B:It's hard.
Speaker B:It is hard.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna say it like this.
Speaker B:Like, if you're trying to do something, believe in yourselves and just remind yourselves, like, what you're trying to do and how you're trying to do it.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Have a common, have a common goal in mind and remind yourself the common goal.
Speaker A:Because there will be times, like he said, where you guys don't see eye to eye, where two people think differently or where three people think differently than one person, where you might be outnumbered, other people might be outnumbered, and you just sitting there and just being like, damn, all I want is this to go right.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:And ultimately that's your guys's ultimate goal all together, is that you guys all want it to go right.
Speaker A:But it might be pride, it might be creativity, it might be so many different things, but, yeah, you can't let that get in the way.
Speaker A:I mean, I wouldn't do it any differently.
Speaker A:I would, like you said, I would prepare myself a little better.
Speaker A:Like, I would have a common goal in mind and I'd have certain that we all agreed on ahead of time.
Speaker A:So when things get to that point, you're able to be like, hey, this is what we agreed on.
Speaker A:I agree with that.
Speaker A:But I don't think I would change, like, how we've gone about what we've done.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And just communication is the way to go to, like, without communication, ain't gonna get done, ain't gonna move.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, communication is, is key.
Speaker B:Like, for sure.
Speaker B:Because, yeah, with anything, communication is the way to do.
Speaker B:Whether you're a relationship, friendship, business wise, like, communication is the Way to do everything.
Speaker B:Like, if your partner knows what's going down, left and right will go left and right, you know?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Will go smoothly, will move the way.
Speaker A:It needs to move, because they understand, okay, we got to work around this or we got to do this, we got to do that.
Speaker A:But the second you start, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:As long as you all prioritizing the same thing, it's easy.
Speaker A:But if you are.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:If you're in those positions, the moment.
Speaker B:You get sneaky and all that, it is.
Speaker B:It gets rough out there.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So you just gotta be mean what you say and say what you mean.
Speaker B:Because if not, shit's gonna get misinterpreted, just gonna get misunderstood, and she's just gonna get looked at the wrong way, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And ultimately, you just got to remind each other, hey, we're trying to do the same thing.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:We all want to win.
Speaker A:We want this to be the best thing possible.
Speaker A:So why fight over it?
Speaker A:If we could do it better, if we could be this or we could be that better, instead of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Looking at each other and being like, hey, why.
Speaker A:You know, why is this hard?
Speaker A:You look at it as like, hey, how can we make it easier?
Speaker A:But it all comes down to how you guys function as a group.
Speaker A:And like he said, exactly.
Speaker A:If you're gonna go into something like this, make sure you guys have these understandings.
Speaker A:Make sure you guys work well together and stuff, because there are going to be times where it's tough.
Speaker A:Like, I watched the podcast.
Speaker A:I was telling this.
Speaker A:I watched podcast about this a couple weeks ago about this guy saying he feels like he's damn near married to his podcast house, because no matter how hard it is, how sad he is, whether if he's having a bad mental, a bad week or whatever, he has to brush that off and show up for his commitment.
Speaker A:And I looked at it, and I was like, damn, that's how I feel.
Speaker A:Like, there'd be days where guests probably look at me like I've seen him a lot.
Speaker A:Like, more talkative in episodes, and it's like, bro, you got to realize, like, I'm a human.
Speaker A:I have days where I'm just, you know, not feeling it.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not.
Speaker A:Not necessarily not feeling it, but just like, I'm not at the social meter I would have normally, or this, that, the other, and stuff.
Speaker A:And it's just important to, you know, show up regardless of how you feel.
Speaker A:I keep saying that, but just show up for each other with Each other do it.
Speaker B:And I think the most important thing with whatever you're doing, just show up, you know, like, just show up.
Speaker B:That's like the.
Speaker B:Because once you're there, you're gonna realize like, okay, I'm here.
Speaker B:I have to do what I got to do to be here, you know?
Speaker B:And it's the most important thing, whether it's a job, relationship, friendship, business wise, you starting up your own thing.
Speaker B:Like, you need to show up for yourself, for your partner, for the people around you, for the people counting on you.
Speaker B:Like that's what it's about.
Speaker B:Because it's not just you, it's everybody counting on you.
Speaker B:And you count on everybody to help you out, you know?
Speaker A:No, definitely, because it's all.
Speaker B:At the end of the day, everybody's a team.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Regardless if you like it or not, everyone's a team.
Speaker B:And if you think you're gonna do it alone, I hope you have the strongest back because you're gonna be doing some hard work.
Speaker A:And what we're talking about is anything.
Speaker A:It could be music, it could be anything.
Speaker A:Without the producer, without the engineer, without.
Speaker A:You could even do that all yourself if you don't have somebody helping with marketing or something.
Speaker A:Like, you cannot wear every single hat alone.
Speaker A:You have to be able to lend yourself to help the people you believe in, but also, you know, believe in yourself and do the work you can do.
Speaker A:Because nobody's waiting on you.
Speaker A:Nobody's waiting for you.
Speaker A:Nobody wants it for you.
Speaker A:They wanted.
Speaker A:Everybody in this world wants it for themselves, bro.
Speaker B:And if that's the case, if someone's waiting on you, just imagine that they're waiting on you to blow up.
Speaker B:And you just not putting up to your.
Speaker B:You're not putting up to what their standards are.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:So you, in a way, like there's people out there waiting for, like they're.
Speaker B:Look the count on you, bro.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And it may seem tough, but that you all they got, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So sometimes you gotta just take it for what it is and just ride that wave, baby, you know?
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Show up and show out, do what you can, you know, because people are gonna come with it.
Speaker A:We're in that age too, where it's like, you know, not everything has to be Michael Jackson.
Speaker A:Not everything has to be the biggest thing like you can succeed with the cult small following of people who just really believe in what your purpose is and who you are.
Speaker A:Just show up.
Speaker A:Just show up and let people rock with you, regardless of what it is.
Speaker A:I can't say it enough.
Speaker A:Speaking of youthfulness in childhood, I wanted to ask you real quick, you know, how old is too old?
Speaker A:You know, whether it comes to, like, dressing your age or going to concerts.
Speaker A:Like, Kendrick called me the other day talking about edc.
Speaker A:He's like, you can't be going to EDC when you're 35.
Speaker A:Yeah, how does he.
Speaker A:I mean, he's a year younger than me, but I'm just saying he's talking about it.
Speaker A:He wants to do it now because he's like, I can't do it in three years type.
Speaker A:And I'm just like, I'll tell you what, bro.
Speaker B:Remember when we went to Soul Bloom and Sack?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:We was dead, right?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Like, what was up with that?
Speaker A:Yeah, we didn't even go make it.
Speaker B:To a second younger than me.
Speaker B:He was like two, three years younger than me.
Speaker A:No, but let's be real.
Speaker A:Let's be real.
Speaker A:We didn't want to go to day two.
Speaker A:The whole time I was saying I didn't want to go to day two the whole time.
Speaker B:Day one.
Speaker B:Whooped my cheeks, bro.
Speaker B:I'm like three years older than this cat and I'm.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:It whooped my ass.
Speaker A:I will say I go to a lot of festivals with my girlfriend and we never.
Speaker A:We never make it to all the days.
Speaker A:We always make it to like half of two of them.
Speaker B:I went to two rolling louds, but I was like in my younger.
Speaker B:Not even my younger 20s, but like my almost out of 20s.
Speaker B:And I barely hung.
Speaker B:I didn't barely hung.
Speaker B:I was out there doing my thing, but Soul Bloom kicked my ass.
Speaker A:Nah, bro.
Speaker A:I'd be seeing like 60 Brent files, though.
Speaker B:That was dope.
Speaker B:I with you, Brent.
Speaker B:Kehlani, I love you, baby girl.
Speaker B:I didn't get to see you, but I'm gonna come to a show soon because I love you.
Speaker A:I'll be seeing like 60, 80 year old people doing like Molly at EDC and.
Speaker B:Right, okay.
Speaker B:See, that's.
Speaker A:I don't think I'm like, bro, okay.
Speaker B:For real.
Speaker B:60, 80, that's crazy.
Speaker A:I'll tell you, I would lucky do it though, if I retired and I was in.
Speaker B:I was a druggie back in my time, like my early 20s, bro.
Speaker B:I was a productive junkie.
Speaker A:Druggie, huh?
Speaker B:Yeah, like, it's crazy, bro.
Speaker B:You find out about people's lives and you think like, damn.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:It's like, baby.
Speaker A:But anyway, like, I had my struggles.
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:But like, for me, like, like, I had my fair share of drugs.
Speaker B:Back in the day, to think, like, history repeats itself.
Speaker B:Like it was the night like 80s, 70s, 90s, these up, like, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:But like, to say.
Speaker B:To say that today, because I don't do that anymore today, if I were to do that, I think I would.
Speaker B:I think I'd die.
Speaker B:I don't think my little corazon could do that.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, back then, I didn't give a.
Speaker B:If I OD'd, I OD'd.
Speaker B:I'm God bless myself.
Speaker B:RIP to the homies that I. I was.
Speaker A:I was never big into any of that.
Speaker A:I'll be honest.
Speaker B:But like I said, though, like, drugs is.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker B:Is crazy.
Speaker B:And people, they do drugs on to go to concerts and have a grand old.
Speaker B:I'm a baby after 25.
Speaker B:Stop it.
Speaker A:You know, you think that's the age.
Speaker B:25, 25, 20, 27.
Speaker B:27.
Speaker B:Stop it.
Speaker A:When do you start dressing your age?
Speaker B:That's tough because I hate, I hate, like.
Speaker A:Are you gonna wear Hellstar at 35?
Speaker B:No, I don't even wear Hellstar at my age now, bro, you were just.
Speaker A:Wearing a star, okay?
Speaker B:That shirt I bought two years ago.
Speaker B:Don't do it like that.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker A:I'm just kidding.
Speaker A:No, no, no, but for real, let.
Speaker B:Me tell you this.
Speaker B:I'm 29 years old, and I'm trying to stray away from like the graphic tees.
Speaker B:And like, actually I'm trying to stray away from like the.
Speaker B:The loud teeth, I guess.
Speaker B:Like, I want.
Speaker B:I want to just be able to wear simple, simplistic, like, graphic tee.
Speaker B:If not, I guess I just want to start wearing like, simple black tea.
Speaker B:Simple white tees.
Speaker B:Shout out my boy Pawnee, bro.
Speaker B:That fool wears all black tea.
Speaker B:All white tea.
Speaker B:Black vans, white vans, Simple Levi's, bro.
Speaker B:The boys.
Speaker B:He ain't stressing it, bro.
Speaker B:And he out.
Speaker A:Yeah, he out.
Speaker B:Like, we chilling, we go to the bars, we go to the clubs.
Speaker B:We doing our thing.
Speaker B:And he just.
Speaker B:And he still get.
Speaker A:No, I think I.
Speaker A:As I've gotten older, I'm a lot like that.
Speaker A:Where I like.
Speaker A:I like just blank T shirts or blankets.
Speaker B:I got a supreme.
Speaker A:I'm like big whack.
Speaker B:Like, for real.
Speaker A:Look at this.
Speaker A:Like, no, that's hard.
Speaker A:That's hard.
Speaker A:But what I will say what.
Speaker B:I was like a little 17 year old.
Speaker A:That's one thing I do think.
Speaker A:No, I do think about that.
Speaker A:Like, how like a.
Speaker A:If I wear this to just depress an 18 year old, like, you know, this spider shirt, like Even a fucking afford it, bro.
Speaker B:His mama buying him this shirt.
Speaker B:I work hard for this shirt for sure.
Speaker A:And a 30 year old's gonna look at my spider's jacket and be like, what the is he wearing?
Speaker B:But it's like, it's like, can I pull off the Ralph Lauren?
Speaker B:Can I pull off the Banana Republic?
Speaker A:I will say though, am I there yet?
Speaker B:Am I there?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:I'm big.
Speaker A:I'm big cotton on Zara.
Speaker A:Like I'm big.
Speaker A:Like bro, I am.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna lie the blank like that.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker A:No, I really am.
Speaker A:I really are dope.
Speaker B:I just, just recently gone to Zar.
Speaker A:No, I really am.
Speaker A:So I'mma be honest.
Speaker B:Zara.
Speaker B:Zara isn't graphic.
Speaker B:It can be graphic, but it can be just simplistic, just pieces.
Speaker A:Even Amazon got the.
Speaker A:Bro, if you.
Speaker A:Yeah, if you use Amazon correct, bro, it got this.
Speaker B:It's just been on Amazon like that.
Speaker A:As I've gotten older, bro, I've realized it's not all about like the brand or where I get it or anything.
Speaker A:It's just about how I put it on or what I put it on with or what.
Speaker A:Because I'm getting over accessories or with.
Speaker B:Shoes, but like the hats are getting like, look at that, the blue eye again.
Speaker B:All hand, bro.
Speaker B:Money is getting tight.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's, that's what you realize as an older, as an older person, like you're like, damn, do I want that 10 hell stars or do I want more money on my mortgage or on my down payment?
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like you're just like, I could put that down on my.
Speaker B:That's the thing too with my fashion, bro.
Speaker B:Cuz I look too good.
Speaker B:But if my girl don't look as.
Speaker A:Good as me, like it ain't shut up.
Speaker A:But even like my girl put me on like uni that uniqlo.
Speaker A:It's like another like oh yeah, it's hella just blank Like I be wearing hella like that.
Speaker A:Cuz what are you gonna tell me?
Speaker B:But I don't know what it is about me that I just have to have that designer.
Speaker B:I don't know what I need to get over that for sure.
Speaker A:It's the ego.
Speaker B:It is, huh?
Speaker A:Half the girls that talk to you don't know what the your shirt means or stands for.
Speaker B:Me.
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:Cuz like the one short that I do with and she with me, she never gave a about.
Speaker A:And the girl that does understand what your shirt means or is or whatever probably is Judging you financial status or be like, oh, he got money to try to use you anyway.
Speaker A:So it.
Speaker A:Why even try to impress anybody?
Speaker B:He got a, he got a $200 shirt, but he drive a Duramax.
Speaker B:Where the.
Speaker A:You know what, a Bentley.
Speaker A:No, for real.
Speaker A:It's like ultimately like, what are you doing it for?
Speaker A:Yeah, you're doing it for extreme external validations.
Speaker B:I'm telling you, bro, like I said, the girl that I with and she with me, bro, she don't give a about none of this, bro.
Speaker A:No, for sure.
Speaker B:She just wants me to have the house and the bills paid and the.
Speaker A:Mortgage paid and that.
Speaker A:That's what I'm saying is like ultimately like I still wear this.
Speaker A:I think it's cool.
Speaker A:I like what I like, I like what I like.
Speaker A:And I will buy some brands, but I don't live off brands.
Speaker A:I'll go to Cotton On, I'll go to Uniqlo, I'll go to Zara, I'll go to H M. I don't mind, bro.
Speaker A:I don't mind.
Speaker B:Like I said, dude, shout out to the boy pawning because he for sure just be pulling up in a black tee, a white tee, simple jeans, simple shorts, the vans.
Speaker B:If he's got the Nikes, he's got the Nikes.
Speaker B:But it's simple, bro.
Speaker B:He's just doing him.
Speaker B:He's just pulling up and he's still having a good time and his wallet still chunky as hell because he he for what he does.
Speaker A:And I can't wait till I'm at that age where I'm just a dad and like I get clothes for birthdays or for my kids or for my wife and I don't even got to get stuff cuz who I got to impress.
Speaker B:My daddy, huh?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Ultimately, like people already know my sty.
Speaker A:A good little that daddy.
Speaker A:Well, no, I go a little.
Speaker A:I go a little athletic and comfortable anyway.
Speaker A:But I'm just, I'm just saying like I'm not going to wear wax, but I don't always need to be.
Speaker B:But I want to be that daddy that.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, yeah, your daddy sweat.
Speaker A:But I don't need to go too crazy.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, no, like I could go with the Nike tech.
Speaker A:I could go with the Nike tech and some nice sneakers and they'll respect me.
Speaker A:Cuz the sneakers.
Speaker B:Son, what you wearing Nike tech for?
Speaker A:I'm in the Bay Area.
Speaker A:It's cold as a out here.
Speaker B:No, you going back.
Speaker A:Why you have a hoodie on today and pants?
Speaker B:Because it was chilly.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:From the valley.
Speaker A:We're from there.
Speaker A:I'll live there.
Speaker B:He going back one day.
Speaker B:Hey, I told you one day.
Speaker B:Anyway, though.
Speaker B:But I'll tell you what.
Speaker B:Fashion.
Speaker B:Fashion is one thing.
Speaker B:Live your life.
Speaker B:Do.
Speaker B:Express yourself in any way you can.
Speaker B:But don't, don't.
Speaker B:Don't fake it till you make it, because you may not make it.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Maybe out in the dirt, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So just do what you can.
Speaker B:Express yourself the way you can.
Speaker B:You can and humbly just live your life.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker B:Don't try to impress nobody.
Speaker B:If you try to impress yourself, impress yourself in a way that you can financially still be happy.
Speaker B:Yeah, it feels good to buy expensive.
Speaker B:But at the end of the day, you feel like wearing that knowing damn well you couldn't afford that.
Speaker A:Yeah, or knowing that you got it on Klarna, bro.
Speaker A:Come on, why you pay?
Speaker A:Why are you paying over four months to 12, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Why are you paying the hell star over Klarna?
Speaker A:Why you playing that shit's sad, dog.
Speaker A:Like, it really is.
Speaker A:Why you paying half your check on your car payment?
Speaker A:It is sad, dog.
Speaker A:Like, stop impressing the people.
Speaker A:Stop doing.
Speaker A:Yeah, stop doing the ego.
Speaker A:Start living real life.
Speaker A:Live in real life.
Speaker B:Like some.
Speaker B:Like, if you're trying to impress anybody, it.
Speaker B:I promise you, they don't give a.
Speaker A:And another thing I've realized as I gotten older is stopped supporting the cool and support the.
Speaker A:You believe in.
Speaker A:Support the.
Speaker A:You can you agree with.
Speaker A:Support the.
Speaker A:That you want to see.
Speaker A:Go further.
Speaker A:Because realistically, that is the key of it getting further.
Speaker A:Like, realistically, we all get caught in being cool when being cool is just lame.
Speaker A:The older you get, you look at the people trying to be too cool and you're just like, why are you doing that?
Speaker A:Like, exactly.
Speaker A:Be yourself.
Speaker B:Talk to me in your own way.
Speaker A:Like that's what everybody is cool.
Speaker A:Just be cool being you.
Speaker B:Like, you're cool in your own way and you.
Speaker B:Your own click like you're cool.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's all that matters, bro.
Speaker A:Every single one of us is a different person.
Speaker A:We all like different things, we all act different ways, we attract different people, but we're all our own person and we, you know, take pride in that, bro.
Speaker A:Like, it.
Speaker A:I don't need to be, you know, I don't need to be boy B. I don't need to be bocce.
Speaker A:I don't need to be K3.
Speaker B:Like to because you, not them.
Speaker B:And you'll never be there, bro.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker B:And they'll never be you.
Speaker B:That's the thing about it.
Speaker A:And I can't.
Speaker A:I can't live my life trying to be somebody else.
Speaker A:So fuck it.
Speaker A:That's my big thing, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, fuck it.
Speaker A:Do you live in real life?
Speaker A:Wear a blank T shirt and let somebody fuck with you because of who you are, how you look, what you dress, how you put it on, the shoes you got like, shit.
Speaker A:I'm not against wearing expensive shoes.
Speaker A:I'm not against, like.
Speaker A:I'm not against, like, liking shit.
Speaker A:I like shit.
Speaker A:But I'm just saying, like, that should define me.
Speaker A:Like, I got a spider hoodie on right now, but tomorrow wear a H M. And I'm not gonna feel no different, bro.
Speaker A:I got a three dollar.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker A:I got a three dollar half evil shirt on with treating yourself.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:If you can do it, do it.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, have fun with it.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:But don't go broke trying to be something you're not.
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker A:We're just trying to keep up.
Speaker A:Trying to keep up with somebody else, bro.
Speaker A:Like, your time is coming, bro.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I wish I knew that at a young age.
Speaker A:I wish I knew that it didn't matter who had the nice shoes or the nice.
Speaker A:Like, my time was coming.
Speaker A:There's gonna be a time where I could go where I wanted to go or do what I wanted to do, but I just didn't trust the process.
Speaker A:And I really wish I did, like, just trust the process happens for different people at different times.
Speaker A:But it will happen.
Speaker B:And that's what it is.
Speaker B:Your story is never gonna be the same as anybody else's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's what, like, the beauty about it.
Speaker B:You're gonna be able to tell a story for sure.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker A:And that's why I love this, bro.
Speaker A:It's like, I didn't have to depend on this blasting off to support myself.
Speaker A:I'm able to do this for fun because happened at my own time or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I feel like we all feel that way.
Speaker A:It's like, you know, there was a time in our lives where we couldn't do, like, this, you know, and the we're doing now, we have to look up to and be like, we really worked our ass off to put ourselves in these positions.
Speaker A:And you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, we couldn't do this at 18, when we wanted to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:It sucks.
Speaker A:We had to wait 10 years.
Speaker A:But it.
Speaker A:We're here now, and now that we're.
Speaker B:Doing it, we're doing it.
Speaker B:Like, you're never too old to do what you want to do.
Speaker A:Never.
Speaker B:You're never too old to follow anything.
Speaker A:Never.
Speaker B:And do what you want to do, bro.
Speaker A:Get three friends.
Speaker A:Everybody has an iPhone.
Speaker A:You guys put them shits up, sit down and talk with a wireless mic.
Speaker A:The Comica ones cost about 200 bucks.
Speaker A:You can plug.
Speaker A:Plug them right into your iPhone and have four mics, bro.
Speaker A:Comica, VMO cues.
Speaker B:And that's if, like, you're trying to do a podcast.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:But, like, you could get it done.
Speaker B:Whatever the.
Speaker B:You're trying to do whatever you want to do it.
Speaker B:Find some research and do it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You want to rap, bro.
Speaker A:Go get a Scarlet.
Speaker A:Go get a little compressor, microphone.
Speaker A:Get logic.
Speaker A:It's 200 bucks, you know, Save up for a month.
Speaker B:Your computer.
Speaker B:Yeah, a MacBook, whatever.
Speaker B:May be, bro.
Speaker A:Just save up for a little bit.
Speaker B:You will figure it out.
Speaker B:You can.
Speaker A:It's possible, bro.
Speaker A:And you're going to be good.
Speaker A:But the more you sit there and just wait for your life to work out, you're just gonna sit there feeling it's not fast enough.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's not fast enough.
Speaker B:You gotta get out there and just try and believe in yourself and just do it.
Speaker B:Like, whatever it is, whether it's music, fashion, content, creating, business, entrepreneurship, whatever it may be, just find it and be passionate about it.
Speaker B:Invest into it.
Speaker B:Invest into yourself and just keep grinding.
Speaker A:Because the journey doesn't feel quick until you, like.
Speaker A:Until you're just, like, caught up in it.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, you don't.
Speaker B:Because you're gonna realize, like, oh, my gosh, like, all of a sudden.
Speaker B:Like, not even all of a sudden, but, like, shit's popping off.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you ain't even realize, like, oh, my God, Last year I was here.
Speaker B:Last year I was there, bruh.
Speaker A:Last week we had a third of the Instagram followers we have now.
Speaker A:We've gained three times the followers in less than a week, bro.
Speaker A:You never know what can happen if you don't just put yourself out there.
Speaker B:You just gotta believe for real.
Speaker A:That's all it is.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And that's what it is, y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker A:What you got for me, boy?
Speaker A:B, you got a question?
Speaker B:Let's see.
Speaker B:What do I got for y'?
Speaker B:All?
Speaker B:So if Anything.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Actually, I'm gonna go with this one.
Speaker B:What's your personal Black Mirror episode?
Speaker B:Like, what is one episode that really hits you?
Speaker B:Or what is an episode that you would go through and survive through, in a sense, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, what would be your Black Mirror episode?
Speaker A:So I'm not like, I'm not crazy into Black Mirror.
Speaker A:I'll be honest.
Speaker A:Like, I haven't watched a lot of it.
Speaker A:However, I did see the one, the dating.
Speaker A:What's called the dating simulation, where.
Speaker B:And it was the time one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker B:And then it was the white guy and.
Speaker A:Well, whatever.
Speaker A:And then at the end.
Speaker A:No, I'm talking about the one where they, like.
Speaker A:Basically there's this simulation that goes on and they see if they can last together or whatever, and they try to escape to be together.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because they have the time and they're trying to escape to be together longer than their time just to find out that they're like.
Speaker A:The last scene is them back at the bar, just about to meet for the first time.
Speaker A:And it's basically a simulation of, like, how dating would go for them.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:You know, and that.
Speaker B:I don't think I've seen that one.
Speaker A:No, I think it's the one you're talking about where it's the time one.
Speaker B:And then what is it?
Speaker A:Like, don't they try to escape, or am I tripping?
Speaker B:I don't know about escape you're talking about.
Speaker B:I'm thinking the one I'm talking about is one where he.
Speaker B:He somehow cheats the timeline and sees the future and it up the timeline in general to where he doesn't end up being with her because he.
Speaker B:He decided to, like, see into the future of what was going to happen for them.
Speaker A:No, I don't.
Speaker B:It wasn't that one.
Speaker B:Well, that one hit me in a way to where I was like, oh, yeah, it.
Speaker A:It was that.
Speaker A:But it's like, it was basically a dating app.
Speaker A:I think it was the one I'm talking about basically was like a dating app.
Speaker A:And he showed you the simulation of, like, these two profiles and, like, what they would have have done together.
Speaker B:It doesn't look.
Speaker A:You believe.
Speaker A:You believe.
Speaker A:Like, that's what's going on right then.
Speaker A:And then the last.
Speaker A:The last seat is them back at the bar, like, of meeting again.
Speaker B:Type.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Meeting for the first time.
Speaker A:But that was like, what they would have done was.
Speaker A:That's how they knew.
Speaker B:Oh, so they went through everything.
Speaker A:That's how they knew they would be K that they would be together is because they both tried to escape to be together or whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it was some crazy.
Speaker A:And I'm just like, I don't really understand what Black Mirror is.
Speaker A:So I don't know what I could say would be my Black Mirror episode, but it would for sure be some type of where like, you know, it'd be some type of where like I make it all the way with the podcast or something and then it just taken away.
Speaker A:Taken away or like goes exactly the wrong way or my whole life is different and I'm just like some unpleasant person that just, just is going through the motions and just to turn back and me be back to a giddy old, like inspired, determined young creator just to see my future and be like, that's where it's going.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, that would, yeah, that should suck.
Speaker B:That'd be something too because that's like almost career driven, you know, to where it's like, oof, it didn't work out.
Speaker A:And it's okay.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker A:A true story though, because if you put too much investment into your career, only into your successes, only like you're not.
Speaker A:You can't succeed every time, you know, you have to put investment into your family, into your friends, into the external validation of other things that isn't just success or money because you know, that comes and goes, you know.
Speaker A:So I guess that would be a real, real thing where I just.
Speaker A:I guess that'd be my Black Mirror episode is me getting too, too like all this becoming a real huge production and me just getting too invested, you know, that would be my Black Mirror episode.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I think I'm living my Black Mirror episode, bro.
Speaker B:I don't really.
Speaker A:What does that mean to you?
Speaker B:Like, I just.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just feel like.
Speaker B:I feel like with everything that I've been going through in my life, like things have been working out but one thing.
Speaker B:Thing in my life and it just sucks that it's like the one thing that I don't.
Speaker B:I never used to give a about.
Speaker B:I never cared about.
Speaker B:And that's like my love life, you know, Like I never cared about it.
Speaker B:I never stressed it.
Speaker B:I never had one.
Speaker B:I never, you know, I never.
Speaker A:And now that's what holds that now.
Speaker B:That'S like, that's all I'm stressing about.
Speaker B:Like, that's all.
Speaker A:Like, do you think that's cuz you're getting older?
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I mean, I guess at the same time too because like I Don't want to be alone, bro.
Speaker B:I don't mind being.
Speaker B:Being alone, but I do enjoy the company of the person that I had in my life and everything.
Speaker B:And I feel like now it's like I'm starting to see.
Speaker B:Like, I felt like I had so much time with this person and now I. I slowly saw the time, like, leaving.
Speaker B:Like the clock was just whatever it was.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like I saw it all happening.
Speaker B:Like, I knew it was coming.
Speaker B:I knew it was happening.
Speaker B:The time the clock was ticking.
Speaker B:And then I finally, like, it happened to where, like, everything with that person, I got cut off because, you know, it was time.
Speaker B:Time was up.
Speaker B:Like my time was up.
Speaker B:Like, is what it is to where my black mirror is that episode of, like, just thinking you have all this time with somebody and not taking advantage of the time you have.
Speaker A:You did have.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:To where, like, now that it's gone, it's like, oh, damn.
Speaker A:Like, what would you do differently if you could go back?
Speaker B:I think I would have done just.
Speaker B:I think I would have put a. I would have put.
Speaker B:I would have put the.
Speaker B:I would have put my problems aside.
Speaker B:I would have put the problems that she couldn't fix aside for me to see that she was really there for me, to help me out.
Speaker A:Like the shit you took for granted almost like this.
Speaker A:Like, was it shit that you felt like you were upset about, you might have taken out on her, but she couldn't fix anyway?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Exactly like that.
Speaker B:Like, it was.
Speaker B:It was my own black clouds that just kept raining on me.
Speaker B:And I was mad at her that she just couldn't.
Speaker B:Didn't have a big enough umbrella for my ass.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:And you wanted her to be the one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it wasn't her fault, but it was the fact that she was there to try and make things better and she didn't make it better that I took it out on her.
Speaker B:That I didn't see the beauty of her just being there and willing to wanna still love me even though I wasn't who I wanted to be.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's why now I'm just like, damn.
Speaker B:Like, I feel so good about myself because now life is happening, but she's not here.
Speaker B:But that just goes to show too.
Speaker B:It's like, you know what?
Speaker B:Sometimes when you got something, you just gotta ride with it and just hope for the best.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you're not always ready for what it is.
Speaker A:And that's like one, you either rise to the occasion or you Regret it.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And, like, respectfully too.
Speaker B:Like, I was just looking out for her too.
Speaker B:Like, I didn't want her to be with some.
Speaker B:Not even loser, just, like, somebody who didn't 100 see the potential that she had to offer.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, because I didn't even see the potential of myself to give her, you know?
Speaker A:So why do you think that is?
Speaker A:Why do you think that you're.
Speaker A:You allow, like, your view of yourself?
Speaker B:Because I feel like who I was at the time and who I wanted to be didn't correlate.
Speaker B:It didn't align in the sense of, like, who I thought I was was this big old macho man who, like, didn't need nobody in the sense, like, I did need somebody because I was just weak and sad at the same time.
Speaker B:But at the same time, too, like, what I was going through, I was going through something even bigger, like, with work and to where it's like, I had all these problems and I was just going through everything, but I had this good person in my life.
Speaker B:To where it's like, I didn't allow to see the fact that this person was willing to see me for who I truly was, rather than these clouds that I had over my head, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To where I didn't want to believe that she really liked me, that she just felt sorry for me, you know?
Speaker A:And you looked at her like she looked at you how you looked at you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:To where I felt sorry for myself.
Speaker B:That's how she sees me.
Speaker B:She just feels sorry for the sucker.
Speaker B:Like, you know, she's gonna stick around because, like, oh, yeah, he's funny or whatever, maybe and all this and all that.
Speaker B:But at the end of the day, she knew that I treated her like.
Speaker B:And she knew that I was, like, the way that I was, but she knew at the same time, like, he's going through this and he's going through that.
Speaker B:But good for her to see that.
Speaker B:Like, she deserved better and she could have done and she did do better.
Speaker B:Like, she's.
Speaker B:From what I hear, she's, you know, with somebody new and the whole nine.
Speaker B:And for me, like, I accept the fact, like, it's your own fault.
Speaker B:You waited too long.
Speaker B:You didn't see what you had, and now you got things going for you.
Speaker B:You're moving and you believe in yourself and you're confident to where if somebody wants to love you, you're going to be there to accept the love that they got going for you.
Speaker B:Because I don't want to Be alone, baby.
Speaker B:Hell no.
Speaker A:No, definitely.
Speaker B:You know, but at the same time too, it's like I do wish I still had that shorty with me because I know it could have been great, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:But at the same time, I understand.
Speaker B:It was me.
Speaker B:It was all me.
Speaker B:It was never her.
Speaker B:And that's one thing.
Speaker B:Like I always try to.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker B:When I.
Speaker B:When everything went down, I remind her, it was not you, shorty, it was me.
Speaker B:And I wish I could have got my together to.
Speaker B:For it to be us, you know, but it is what it is.
Speaker B:And I don't blame nobody or nothing, but if God's timing is right, like, we gonna find each other and we're gonna be back together.
Speaker B:But if not, I gotta keep it pushing.
Speaker B:No, definitely gotta keep pushing.
Speaker A:And I think like, what you said is the biggest thing is like, sometimes you don't accept what you deserve in life.
Speaker A:Sometimes you don't feel ready for what you need.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and it's like you have to, you, you make certain decisions, you have to live with it, but you have to learn from it.
Speaker A:You have exactly.
Speaker A:You have to know, like, look at those red flags you, you know, may have exuded or may have done because at the end of the day, there is somebody out there that cares.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And it's like, now I know that I'm worthy.
Speaker B:You know, that's like one thing too.
Speaker B:I didn't see myself worthy of being loved, being appreciated, being a boyfriend, or, you know, of that sense.
Speaker B:He's like, why the she want to be with my dumbass?
Speaker B:Like, I don't have nothing.
Speaker B:That's how I felt.
Speaker B:But she saw like, the love, the friendship, the companionship, the.
Speaker B:She saw more than just the financial stability of myself, you know, And I.
Speaker A:Think that's what we focus on is as a man, As a man, we focus on where we lack.
Speaker A:If we're good financially, but we're lacking the most emotional side, we focus on that.
Speaker A:If we're good financially and emotionally, but we're lacking this physical side, we focus on that.
Speaker A:Like, we always focus on where we aren't showing up and.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Sometimes we allow that to us off our blessing just rather than, you know, being vulnerable and just coming to that person and being like, hey, where can I be better?
Speaker A:What do you need from me?
Speaker A:Like, you know, sometimes two people just don't look at the same way.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:I think the hardest part is like, you look at like everybody just wants their mind to be read.
Speaker A:Everybody Just wants to be understood.
Speaker A:But it's like, how can you be understood if you don't help them understand?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's where it gets tricky too.
Speaker B:Like, that's why, like, you, you just got to have that good companionship, that good relationship, that good communication.
Speaker A:No, definitely.
Speaker B:And it'll all work out for sure.
Speaker B:And, and that's where it was too.
Speaker B:Like, the communication and the understanding was there, but I just couldn't get out of my rut of not wanting to be loved and not the love.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To where I see that now, it's like, man, like, it would have worked out.
Speaker B:It would have worked out great.
Speaker B:To where we would have been together.
Speaker B:And now I'm popping off.
Speaker B:It would have been a story to say, like, yeah, we was down, now we up.
Speaker A:No, I, I for sure.
Speaker A:I for sure seen and been in situations where even you're just not accepting.
Speaker A:And I think that's the key word is accepting.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:You're not accepting of whatever blessings or whatever things are coming to you because you either feel like you're not ready, you feel like it's uncomfortable.
Speaker A:And like, I think it's been the theme of this episode is just, hey, try.
Speaker A:If that's where your heart's at, or if that's where your gut's at, or if that's what you think could be okay with you, just give it a shot.
Speaker A:Regardless of what it is.
Speaker A:It could be, you know, a dream, it could be a person, it could be anything.
Speaker A:But just give it a shot.
Speaker B:And if you fail, you have an understanding of what it felt like to do it.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, riding that roller coaster is.
Speaker A:And how do you get better if you don't feel like that's something I've realized.
Speaker A:Another thing, if I went back to my 18 year old self is just like, failure is a good thing, bro.
Speaker A:Like, how do you really, like get better if you just don't up or if you don't, like, there's, you're literally gonna think your life is catered.
Speaker A:Everything's catered to you.
Speaker B:If you, if everything learn at that point too.
Speaker B:Yeah, like how you, you have to.
Speaker A:Be considerate, you have to be mindful.
Speaker A:And some of those things come from realizing like, oh, not everything's about me.
Speaker A:Not everything's what I want it to be, you know, and it's like these life lessons teach you so much more humility and than like any of the wins.
Speaker A:Do like the wins make you feel good.
Speaker A:They Stroke your confidence, they keep you going.
Speaker A:But the losses is what makes you better.
Speaker A:Like, Right.
Speaker B:And that's the thing about a loss too.
Speaker B:It's like, it really shapes you as a person because, like, you can come back so much stronger from it.
Speaker B:But if you let it eat you up, like, you're gonna stay in that rut for a while.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And that's what sucks too.
Speaker B:Because some losses, like some people don't come back from, they just let that eat them up and they're just like, well, it is what it is.
Speaker B:That's what I got.
Speaker A:Some people off their whole lives because of one loss.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Or because of how other people, people felt about what they had done.
Speaker B:And that's what sucks.
Speaker B:I've taken a lot of losses.
Speaker B:And if I would have took that first one, I would not be where I'm at today.
Speaker B:I would not be who I am today, for sure.
Speaker B:Like, and that's one thing I understood and I appreciate the fact that anybody and everybody who gave me any type of advice to just say, like, what you're going through is not who you're.
Speaker A:Going to become, you know, not for sure.
Speaker A:Because if, if we let every discouragement become reality to ourselves, we would never try anything.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Because every loss or every, like, failure, it shaped you into becoming somebody better or it turned you into a different direction of what you.
Speaker B:Where you were going.
Speaker A:Even what we talked about earlier, like, even when we make mistakes, like that makes us better, it teaches us what to do next time, teaches us what to look out for.
Speaker A:Teaches us, you know, how to operate in the future.
Speaker B:It gives you an understanding of being there already, you know, you've been here.
Speaker B:So what did you do?
Speaker B:Like, what happened the first time that you can do differently?
Speaker B:Like, how can you come back better and stronger?
Speaker A:How can you ease the nerves?
Speaker A:How can you ask better questions?
Speaker A:How can you do this?
Speaker A:Like, whatever it is.
Speaker A:And it's like you yourself up by, like, really?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:By thinking you're not ready.
Speaker A:Like, how many times did we talk about it before we started getting guests?
Speaker A:Like, oh, can we get guests?
Speaker A:Should we get guests?
Speaker A:I don't want to, like, fuck up or this.
Speaker B:That even we got gas and we.
Speaker A:Just, we just started talking, bro, just for ourselves.
Speaker A:It was so nerve wracking the first time, bro.
Speaker A:I think the first time was.
Speaker A:Oh, Aaron Lee.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, that was.
Speaker A:It was like low key nerve wracking because it was like, I mean, I already know, bro.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:But, like, we're in a Situation where we're bringing somebody into the pod and we're, like, trying to be accommodating but trying to be entertaining.
Speaker B:And it's a personality.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's like, so much things to worry about when in reality, all we have to do is just talk, like we're doing right now.
Speaker A:It's just tell him how we feel, see how he feels.
Speaker A:Like, people want to see opinions.
Speaker A:They want something to agree or disagree with.
Speaker A:And if you let their opinions dictate yours, you're never gonna be consistent in your life.
Speaker A:Like, have your own opinions, have your own individualities, like you said, have your own style, have all this stuff and embrace who you are.
Speaker A:Because realistically, if you aren't who you are, there isn't anything to comment on.
Speaker A:There's nothing to comment on.
Speaker A:There's no entertainment because people want to.
Speaker B:See who you really are and, like, where you came from and how you came about, you know?
Speaker A:You know, we're not truth about it for sure.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker B:It comes to showing who you are and, like, wanting to promote your.
Speaker B:Your brand and your personality.
Speaker B:Like, you got to show them who the you really are.
Speaker B:Definitely talk about what you're really about.
Speaker A:You know, and meet them where you can meet them.
Speaker A:Look at us, like, bro, we're not.
Speaker A:We talk to every different person.
Speaker A:We're not the smartest in the world.
Speaker A:We're not the dumbest in the world.
Speaker A:We're not the hardest in the world.
Speaker A:We're not the soft.
Speaker A:We're not the nerdiest.
Speaker A:We're not the, you know, coolest.
Speaker A:We're.
Speaker A:We're just ourselves.
Speaker A:And we meet our guests where we can meet them, where we find intersections, where we, you know, have mutual interests or where we can, you know, they appreciate us just being us realistic, you know, we're not trying to be fucking.
Speaker B:And that's what it is.
Speaker A:A different podcast.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think, like, just us being human, like, being ourselves is, like, what really gravitates to people, too, because, like, when they meet us, like, they don't know nothing about us.
Speaker B:They just see us.
Speaker B:And if the little research that they do do, it's like, you know, they're just some kids, you know, whatever it may be.
Speaker A:Just some kids with some mics.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:And come down to it, like, they just.
Speaker B:They really.
Speaker B:Just, like, they really want to talk to us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, I feel like sometimes, like, we kind of downplay them to where it's like, like, oh, man, they really, like, they was hoping for us to, like, spit this and that, like, to.
Speaker A:Them, you know, not for sure.
Speaker A:And I think.
Speaker A:I think that's one thing we do a lot, is we downplay ourselves.
Speaker A:Like, there's been so many guests who have told us, like, hey, stop saying you've only done this, or you've only been at it this long.
Speaker A:Like, you guys are, like, doing it.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:And it's like, we didn't even believe it.
Speaker A:We don't even believe it still to this day.
Speaker A:And it's like.
Speaker A:But I try to tell myself every day, it's like, hey, there's no number that makes you legitimate.
Speaker A:It's the feeling or the belief in yourself.
Speaker A:You know, people can look at our 300 views and make fun of us, but fudge it, bro.
Speaker A:I'm not going to.
Speaker A:I'm not going to downplay it like that.
Speaker A:Like, you know, we have reels that have thousands and thousands of views.
Speaker A:We don't care, you know, that don't make us.
Speaker A:That don't break us.
Speaker A:What happens is we keep pushing.
Speaker A:We keep putting that next episode out.
Speaker A:We keep reaching more people, and we see who resonates with the boys, and we see who believes that we can bring some light to their life.
Speaker A:And those are the people we invest in.
Speaker A:Because why are we going to invest in the people who don't think what we're doing is cool?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:You know, And I don't want people to invest in us.
Speaker B:They don't believe in us either, you know?
Speaker A:Not at all, bro.
Speaker A:At all.
Speaker B:You know, I hate that fake.
Speaker B:That fake riding, too.
Speaker B:You know, I hate that.
Speaker B:Oh, bro, I love that podcast.
Speaker A:That little podcast.
Speaker B:You need to be doing this and that.
Speaker B:Do you think I don't know to be doing this and that?
Speaker B:You dumb.
Speaker A:That is one thing.
Speaker B:People.
Speaker A:People want you to evolve faster than you can.
Speaker A:Like, hey, you should get Caleb Presley on the podcast.
Speaker B:So, yeah, you think we're just gonna.
Speaker A:Yeah, you don't.
Speaker A:You don't think we want bro on the podcast?
Speaker A:It just don't work like that, brother.
Speaker A:We can't, like, just.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's coming on next week for show.
Speaker B:Like, we gotta go.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Or like, hey, you should.
Speaker A:You should go to can this and do this.
Speaker A:It's like, bro, we're.
Speaker A:We're doing what we can as we can do it, and we're gonna keep getting better, and we're gonna keep improving, and we're gonna keep trying to reach more and more people.
Speaker A:But, hey, stay with us.
Speaker B:But hey, if you start a podcast and you can get it popping, jumping like that.
Speaker B:Hey, tell me the secret.
Speaker A:Tell me the secret.
Speaker A:Do it and show me.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Do it and show me.
Speaker A:I don't mind.
Speaker A:I'll take your.
Speaker A:I'll take your advice any day.
Speaker B:Because right now we just.
Speaker B:We're just trying to just.
Speaker A:We need it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We just trying to spitball.
Speaker B:We trying to talk with like minded people who.
Speaker B:Trying to listen, and that's the best that we can do.
Speaker A:You know, saying all we can do is just talk, do our best, create content we think can create conversations.
Speaker A:Because ultimately that's what we want to do.
Speaker A:We don't want to be fake.
Speaker A:We don't want to be clickbait.
Speaker A:We want to create conversations.
Speaker A:We want you to tell us how we feel, how you feel.
Speaker A:We want to talk to you about.
Speaker A:We feel we don't have to hide it.
Speaker A:We accept y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:Y' all accept us.
Speaker B:You know what it is, and we love y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker A:But, you know, with that to be said, bro, I think.
Speaker A:I think we're ready to.
Speaker A:To close it out.
Speaker B:I think we did some damage.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, we did some.
Speaker A:We did hella damage.
Speaker A:It's been hours, but thank y' all for tuning in.
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Speaker A:Tune in next week.
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