For the Souls Podcast: Faith, Family, and Finding Peace
🎙️ From surviving trauma to building a brand rooted in truth—Ayme of For the Souls Podcast turned her pain into purpose.
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📲 The viral moment that launched For the Souls Podcast
đź‘Ş Why protecting her peace and family became priority
🏡 Buying her first home at 25 and breaking generational cycles
✝️ How faith and healing guide her every step—on and offline
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- 00:00 – The story behind shame and accountability in relationships
- 03:37 – Growing up in Sacramento: identity, family dynamics, and legal struggles
- 08:50 – Jumping into social media: from raw storytelling to conscious rebranding
- 14:30 – Balancing family, faith, and staying true to self while evolving online
- 27:00 – Navigating parenting, trauma, and fierce protection of her kids
- 39:48 – Achieving milestones early: homeownership by age 25
- 50:13 – Spiritual guidance in content creation and impactful conversations
- 01:02:00 – Exploring political identity: a centrist approach
- 01:08:33 – What’s next for Iman: hosting events + expanding the message
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Unquestionable The Podcast S2E6 – Ayme: Turning Trauma Into Testimony on For the Souls Podcast
Transcript
She had an encounter with a guy, right?
Speaker A:She was on him.
Speaker A:She hella liked him, whatever.
Speaker A:She called me the next day.
Speaker A:She was like, yeah, you know, we did.
Speaker A:Woo woo.
Speaker A:And I was like, cool, right?
Speaker A:So a year or so pass, passes.
Speaker A:She meets a guy that she's really serious with, right?
Speaker A:And then she's like, so I was thinking about that one guy I was with and I think he me.
Speaker A:And I was like, you totally wanted him.
Speaker A:You totally called me.
Speaker A:You totally told me all the details, like, what do you mean right now?
Speaker A:But I think it was like the shame that I think she felt that she allowed herself to go there.
Speaker A:And then when she met a serious guy, I think to herself, she was trying to make it seem like he overstepped or whatever.
Speaker A:I think about shit like that.
Speaker A:And I'm like, God forbid my sons were to have an encounter with a girl.
Speaker A:She fully is, you know, fine with things.
Speaker A:And then years, months later is like the shame that.
Speaker A:That I feel is uncomfortable.
Speaker A:So I'm just going to say that you took advantage of me.
Speaker A:Hey.
Speaker B:What'S up, y' all?
Speaker B:You're back with Unquestionable, the podcast.
Speaker B:We got a very special guest today.
Speaker B:We got Iman from For the Souls podcast.
Speaker A:Hello, you guys.
Speaker A:Thank you for having me on, all of you.
Speaker B:As usual, you got Chris Bucci, K3 in the house, and yours truly, Boy B.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:So this episode is going to be a good one.
Speaker B:We got some.
Speaker B:Some juicy topics, some segments, some, you know, just talking about I'm in her upbringing and her social media career.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:Well, who wants to kick it off?
Speaker C:Well, I got a first question I want to ask because, you know, I was watching through a lot of your videos.
Speaker C:Yeah, you know, they're great too.
Speaker C:I want to let you know that.
Speaker C:But you always started off with wanting to get somebody's backstory and kind of their upbringing and things.
Speaker C:So I wanted to kind of reverse that to you.
Speaker C:Let us know your.
Speaker C:Your upbringing, your backstory.
Speaker A:Okay, so got you into this short story long.
Speaker A:I told people, I'm gonna start saying that because I swear.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I was raised in Sacramento.
Speaker A:Well, I grew up in North Highlands for a little bit and then I actually moved here to Galp.
Speaker A:Huge culture shock.
Speaker A:Like when I came here, I remember all my friends would be like, why do you say ask like that?
Speaker A:Because I would say X.
Speaker A:You know, you ask somebody.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And my mom would like, stop saying it like that.
Speaker A:But in north Sacramento, there's a lot of Ukrainians, there's a lot of Black people, there's a lot of white people and you know, a sprinkle of us Mexicans.
Speaker A:And that's just like the culture over there.
Speaker A:And then coming over here was a lot of like ranchero Mexicans and like, just like, I would say upper class.
Speaker A:And for me, I felt so out of place here for a very long time.
Speaker A:But then, I mean, it got a little better.
Speaker A:We ended up moving back to Sack, but.
Speaker A:So my mom was a teenage mom.
Speaker A:She had me at 16 years old.
Speaker A:At nine months old, she met my stepdad.
Speaker A:And initially that was okay until like my sister was born.
Speaker A:And then I think just being the illegitimate daughter, you know, there was that clear difference.
Speaker A:And that affected me a lot of my life.
Speaker A:I didn't have my biological father in my life.
Speaker A:Even though he's actually from around like a Campo Lodi.
Speaker A:It's kind of a trip once I met him to realize how close we were in like our vicinity.
Speaker A:Like we could have totally ran into each other hella times, you know, but small world.
Speaker A:Small ass world, dude.
Speaker A:And then I got a big ass family.
Speaker A:So then I started thinking crazy like, oh my God, what if I would have dated one of my cousins or something?
Speaker B:That's crazy too.
Speaker B:Yeah, I have family out in Fresno.
Speaker B:And it'd be funny because my cousins would tell me like, yeah, I go to a quince and I see a pretty girl and then come to find out she's at the family party.
Speaker B:She's like my cousin's cousin's daughter.
Speaker B:He's like, oh, bro, that's crazy.
Speaker A:And I have hella boy cousins on my dad's side.
Speaker A:Like hell, on my mom's side it's all girls.
Speaker A:On my dad's side it's all boys.
Speaker A:And like we're all around the same age.
Speaker A:So I was like, okay, that, that was close.
Speaker A:Thank God, never.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:So my formative years were really rough.
Speaker A:Living in my household just because of the.
Speaker A:The way I was treated very differently.
Speaker A:Met my biological father at 10 years old.
Speaker A:That was rough because his wife at the time didn't like me either because I was the illegitimate daughter.
Speaker A:Moved back to Sacramento when I was like 14.
Speaker A:Did high school in Sacramento and I kind of just went off the rails, to be honest.
Speaker A:Like I just, you know, I was a knucklehead.
Speaker A:I was really hot head.
Speaker A:Caught my first case at 16 years old, second one at 21, and then had my baby young.
Speaker A:Got with him super young.
Speaker A:So like, life kind of went very fast for me.
Speaker A:So that's kind of Like a summary, quick summary, without getting into too much details, but I could, if you wanted to, of just what it was like growing up.
Speaker B:And this was here in Sacramento you're talking about?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So your first case, what was, what was that looking like?
Speaker B:Like what kind of trouble were you getting into?
Speaker A:Oh, I, I fought a girl.
Speaker B:Oh, he fought is always something, man.
Speaker A:Because it's true.
Speaker B:It could be a simple fight, but then it could lead into something very dangerous.
Speaker A:Yeah, and I knocked her out.
Speaker A:So I guess in the state of California that's considered like a great bodily injury.
Speaker B:And this is like you guys on some like high school, middle schools?
Speaker A:No, dude, it was on a soccer field.
Speaker B:Oh, really?
Speaker A:You have to play the sport.
Speaker B:Yeah, she blocked you a little too crazy or what?
Speaker A:No, bro.
Speaker A:Dude.
Speaker A:So listen, listen.
Speaker A:I was a good ass forward, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:And I was very small, super small when I was a teenager.
Speaker A:Very petite.
Speaker A:And these girls were some big ass, like corn can, I guess.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay.
Speaker A:They were like some big ass corn fed bitches.
Speaker A:Like, and they just kept like, I, you know, they just kept fucking with me the whole game.
Speaker A:And I just was like, you guys are doing it because I'm freaking small, but I'm better than you.
Speaker A:So it ended up actually being that she had a twin.
Speaker A:And I kept confusing the girls and so on one play I sl.
Speaker A:I slide tackled her, the other, the other defender and she freaking came up and tried to like look up on me, but it was her sister prior the whole game that was messing with me.
Speaker A:But it was the other sister, the twin sister that tried to walk up on me all crazy.
Speaker A:So I assumed, oh well, this girl's been messing with me the whole game, she's about to take off on me and I just fucking punched her.
Speaker A:Come to find out, it was.
Speaker B:You want to be the first one?
Speaker A:You know, it was her sister messing with me the whole game.
Speaker A:But she got the brunt of it cuz I confused the two cuz they were twins.
Speaker A:But whatever, I knocked her out and then one of her other teammates came and she took off on me and then I was fighting and then our whole teams were fighting.
Speaker A:Her dad was able to clock me in my face one good time.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hey, he was running for his daughter.
Speaker A:He was, bro, he was.
Speaker B:But hey, that's wrong though.
Speaker A:That's wrong, that's wrong.
Speaker A:And then my home girl on my team, her mom.
Speaker B:And you're what, 16?
Speaker A:You say 16?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:She was like, we got to get the out of here.
Speaker A:They're calling the cops.
Speaker A:And I was like, all right, let's go.
Speaker A:And then I called my mom, like, yeah, mom, sorry.
Speaker A:You know, cops are probably going to be at our door.
Speaker A:And sure enough.
Speaker B:Yeah, they were.
Speaker A:Yeah, they pressed charges on me because when I.
Speaker A:When I hit her, her retainer went through her face.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:So I had to pay that back in restitution.
Speaker A:They got me for, like, emotional damage forever because the scar she's going to have on her face and all that.
Speaker B:Oh, man, it's crazy.
Speaker B:It's crazy how it can just be a simple, you know, fight and then it turns into something crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah, but.
Speaker A:But that was kind of like my reputation back in the day.
Speaker A:Just because I just.
Speaker A:I feel like life put me in a lot of predicaments where people took my kindness for weakness or had a misconception of, like, me being small or me being Mexican or whatever it was.
Speaker A:And then I was always put in a position to have to defend myself, you know, and it was never my first option, trying to fight.
Speaker A:But even in high school, like, I would have girls that would just, like, mug me and I'd be like, I'm trying to be cool.
Speaker A:I'm trying to be nice.
Speaker A:You know, like, what the.
Speaker A:And then they just do too much one day and I had to show them, like, I'm not a punk.
Speaker A:Like, I'm nice.
Speaker A:I'm just not, you know?
Speaker B:And that's where it comes down to, you gotta stand up for yourself.
Speaker B:Cuz if not, they're just gonna keep riding your ass.
Speaker A:Yeah, 100%.
Speaker A:Because after I would get in a fight, that's when everyone would stop with me.
Speaker A:And I would even tell my mom, like, it's kind of stupid that especially girls are that insecure and that catty, that if you see someone who's just, like, confident in herself and just is who she is, you would want to antagonize that person the way I.
Speaker A:They would antagonize me.
Speaker D:They're gonna hate because they don't feel like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Up.
Speaker D:But.
Speaker A:And if I wasn't fighting about that, I was fighting because somebody was, like, picking on, like, an autistic kid or, like, you know, trying to bully, like, you know, the weird kid at school or whatever the fuck.
Speaker A:I don't like none of that shit.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'd get myself into valid.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And then, you know, going from, you know, your upbringing to YouTube.
Speaker C:How did you, you know, make that jump?
Speaker C:How did you get into YouTube?
Speaker C:What piqued your interest to even Start that journey.
Speaker A: ed, I think it was what, like: Speaker A:I got kicked out of my house at 17.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Got kicked out.
Speaker A:I didn't have any family and the circumstances that I was living in, I really had nobody.
Speaker A:I was really isolated.
Speaker A:And so I kind of turned to social media and just started talking about my experience that I was living.
Speaker A:And not just that experience, but like all my experiences growing up.
Speaker A:Like, I was raped when I was 13 years old and just went through a lot of horrible things and started openly talking about a lot of these moments.
Speaker A:But also I was a lot more crazy back then.
Speaker A:So I, like, would do a lot of comedy videos.
Speaker A:Kind of like, honestly, cringy as hell to say, but honestly, like, like Cardi B or.
Speaker A:Do you remember that one girl?
Speaker A:Oh, God, what's her name?
Speaker A:Aggie?
Speaker B:Oh, Abigail.
Speaker B:I love her.
Speaker A:Which one?
Speaker A:The one that's all tatted.
Speaker B:Yeah, she has the two boys right now.
Speaker A:I don't know, I haven't kept up with her, but she's super pretty.
Speaker B:She was on Drake's music video.
Speaker B:She's on YouTube.
Speaker A:She was on YouTube, but super pretty tattoo.
Speaker A:She would like.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was that era.
Speaker A:So, like, I would go on there, I'd talk my.
Speaker A:I would tell my crazy ass stories of that I lived.
Speaker A:And then that, that started taking off.
Speaker B:You know, it's funny, I was telling these guys, like, I remember that because I was dating this girl and she followed you on Twitter.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I didn't really know you, but I remember you went to McCaffrey.
Speaker B:And so like, I was like, oh.
Speaker A:Yeah, I remember her.
Speaker B:And we would watch her videos.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, man, she's trying to be famous, you know, saying.
Speaker B:Because I remember, like, you were just like telling your story, but you were doing like everything and anything.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, man.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:I talked about some fucking wild shit back then.
Speaker B:And I remember she like my ex.
Speaker B:She loved you.
Speaker B:Like, she would just wait for the next video drop or whatever.
Speaker B:She dropped this video.
Speaker B:Check this one out.
Speaker B:And we'd watch.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, no.
Speaker A:I think back at that time and I'm just like, what the was I thinking?
Speaker A:Like, literally there's a page now.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:You know it.
Speaker A:I'll say, I'll give it.
Speaker A:It's proof, okay?
Speaker A:It's proof that I've changed my life so much.
Speaker A:There's a fan page of me out there.
Speaker A:I've tried to report that now you.
Speaker B:Got loyal fans out there.
Speaker A:Like, hell no.
Speaker A:Delete this shit.
Speaker A:Wipe it clean from the Internet.
Speaker A:And now, you know what?
Speaker A:Fuck it.
Speaker A:It's proof that I have changed so much because who I was back then is not who I am now.
Speaker B:And it's cool for like the fans to see your fans to see like where you came from and how you started.
Speaker B:I like to see that too when I see like a rapper from their SoundCloud days up until like their big chain days, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker B:So I like to see that.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:I mean, that's cool that you do have the testimony.
Speaker C:Any of us can do it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And it goes to show, you have fans that are like, have your videos from back then still like posting like that.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I think to myself though, sometimes I'm like, okay, I have the podcast now.
Speaker A:Obviously I'm completely on a different hype.
Speaker A:There's probably gonna be a point where somebody is gonna be like, remember she used to say the N word all the time?
Speaker A:Remember she talked about eating booty?
Speaker A:Remember she talk.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:And they're gonna pull up these things and I'm gonna have to sit there and be like, I bet you that was me.
Speaker A:That was me.
Speaker B:But it's like, you know, what are you gonna do?
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker B:That was you and that's who you were.
Speaker B:That's life though.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Happens, man.
Speaker A:And so that put me.
Speaker A:Was what put me on the map.
Speaker A: actually from social media in: Speaker A:Sixteen, because I was like, me and him got back together and I was.
Speaker B:Like, okay, you completely were off any pages.
Speaker A:Everything, Everything.
Speaker A:I deleted everything.
Speaker A:Because I've always believed that my responsibility is to be a mom and a wife first regardless.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So even though I was on this trajectory, none of that shit mattered to me if my at home life wasn't right.
Speaker A:And because I already had my daughter and I had him, there wasn't anything I wasn't willing to do to ensure that my family's foundation is solid first.
Speaker A:So I told him, I said, fuck this social media shit.
Speaker A:I'm going off of it.
Speaker A:We're focusing on us.
Speaker A:We're doing what we have to do.
Speaker A:And that's how it was going to be until like one day I woke up and I just was like, I was doing so many, so much inner work and I was facing a lot of the things that I had, like, gone through.
Speaker A:And it just like I was reborn, I suppose.
Speaker A:And I told him, I was like, I think I want to get back on social media, but I think I want to just.
Speaker A:It's like a rebrand, you know, Like, I want to talk about what I've learned and.
Speaker A:And how much I've grown.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then that's when I started doing social media again and then came back different.
Speaker A:Came back, so.
Speaker A:Which I actually thought was going to be like a positive, you know, I was like, hell yeah.
Speaker A:Like, people are going to be like, what the.
Speaker A:You're a whole different person.
Speaker A:Hell no.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hate.
Speaker A:Dude, where's the old I at?
Speaker A:Yes, bro.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Everyone was like, this isn't what we wanted to watch.
Speaker A:Oh, you've changed.
Speaker A:Oh, whatever.
Speaker A:And it really hit me, like, damn.
Speaker A:When it comes to entertaining, you know, the commodity in it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:A lot of people just want to be entertained.
Speaker A:They don't give a really.
Speaker A:If you.
Speaker A:If you do better in your life.
Speaker A:They really don't.
Speaker A:It really don't care.
Speaker A:So long as they're entertained and they're being fed, you know, it's cool and.
Speaker B:But it will hit the right crowd with the message that you're trying to spread.
Speaker A:And that's the one thing I am grateful for.
Speaker A:Once I came out and I was on, you know, my rebrand and just talking about more serious, deeper shit, it really did clean out my following list.
Speaker A:And I think everybody that has stuck with me since the OG days, they're just super supportive and they're super like, hell yeah.
Speaker A:We've been.
Speaker A:We've all been growing together.
Speaker A:And I'm like, yeah.
Speaker A:You know, so it established a really core foundation of people that can relate to me and we relate to each other and we just kind of honor the phases of life, good, bad, and ugly, you know?
Speaker C:Definitely.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because it's hard for.
Speaker C:In entertainers, artists of any capacity.
Speaker C:You know, it's hard to get your fan base to grow with you.
Speaker C:Especially, you know, like, you see, with artists, you see with a lot of things, like they want to change their sound and evolve as a person.
Speaker C:Their fan base is, hey, where's that?
Speaker C:2016.
Speaker A:And there's times.
Speaker A:There's times, you know, depending on what I'm going through in life, I might.
Speaker A:The old me might come out for a little razzle dazzle.
Speaker A:She's still in there.
Speaker C:Sprinkled in there.
Speaker A:You know, I went through some.
Speaker B:I don't know, I still got it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I went through some family shit the last two Years.
Speaker A:And I went off a little bit, but I was like, I felt convicted and I was like, I got to delete this.
Speaker A:But then I was like, you know, it.
Speaker A:It's me.
Speaker A:Yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker C:Good bad luck.
Speaker B:Regardless.
Speaker C:Yeah, you wear it with pride.
Speaker C:And that's why the fan base is so, you know, connected and attracted to.
Speaker C:To your brand is because, you know.
Speaker A:It'S something that they can relate to and it's authentic.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, I'm not selling an image.
Speaker A:Like what you see is what you get.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and it's not a business for me.
Speaker A:I mean, it seems like it would be a business.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But honestly, it's not like I don't have a business model or business approach.
Speaker A:I'm not one that's like I gotta constantly be pushing out content and, you know, I gotta stay consistent, all that.
Speaker A:I really, I'm not like that because I honor where I'm at in every phase of life that I'm at.
Speaker A:So it's like if I'm having creator's block, if I'm going through in my real life and I don't got nothing to talk about, I'm not gonna come on here and talk about, you know, I've missed out on a lot of brand deals because if I wouldn't use it myself, if I wouldn't give it to my kids, if I wouldn't want my husband to use it, I'm not gonna stay, just promote it to my.
Speaker B:People, you know, and that's real for sure.
Speaker C:So cultural equity, you know what I'm saying is people being able to trust what it is that you're selling them.
Speaker C:Yeah, that is authentic, just like your brand, you know.
Speaker C:And yeah, if you're selling stuff you don't believe in and it, you know, kind of gets a customer response, then they start looking at you.
Speaker C:It's like you're just selling anything.
Speaker A:Yeah, you co sign this or you co sign this person too.
Speaker A:Even, you know, networking with people.
Speaker D:Yeah, they need to become a seller.
Speaker B:There's that.
Speaker B:And then they say, like, not all money is good money, you know, so it's like, yeah, if you don't believe in it, you know, why you bother to do it.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Evil price.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:If you don't, you know, stay true to your core principle and you even see that in business, that's why businesses are founded with mission statements, is sometimes you have to be like, kind of reeled back into your purpose and yeah, kind of stay true to that.
Speaker C:Because if you don't, you know, you're consumers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's so important, too, to not.
Speaker A:To not pay attention too much to the other lanes that other people are in.
Speaker B:That is one thing.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I feel like even like, for me, too, because I'm always like, all right, I'm doing good, this way, that way.
Speaker B:But then I look over here, like, I could be doing better.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Maybe if I did that, then maybe.
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:But at the same time, you gotta realize, too, what you're doing is that maybe this is what it is.
Speaker B:You're going at a good pace and you're elevating, you're doing your thing, but you know, you're gonna get there eventually.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because there was even times where I would see some people and I'd be like, how in the world?
Speaker B:Like, why not me?
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, how in the world.
Speaker C:How did they get that?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:But then, you know, I realized God's plan in my life and my purpose and my walk is different.
Speaker A:And I had to sit with God and I told him, you know what?
Speaker A:God, I did this whole podcast, like, so getting into that, God really put it on my heart that if I'm sharing my testimony, why not platform the testimonies of others?
Speaker A:Because if people can relate to me and we've all walked a different walk, like, I'm sure people are going to be able to relate to everybody.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I got onto it and I told my husband, this is going to be an investment, but I don't expect return.
Speaker A:Like, I just feel like God put it on my heart and I'm being obedient to what he's calling me to do.
Speaker A:If I were to make money off of it, if it were to blow up, that would be a blessing.
Speaker A:That would be great.
Speaker A:But I'm here solely walking in my purpose, you know?
Speaker A:And that was a game changer, too, in just being able to stay true to why I even started this, you know, because it get.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:You get jaded sometimes.
Speaker A:Sometimes you're like, oh, this is a lot of work I'm putting in, and I ain't seen back yet, you know, but then it's like, wait.
Speaker A:But I didn't even want to see it back.
Speaker A:So humble.
Speaker B:You just wanted to be able to.
Speaker D:Say, yes, bring it right back to why you started in the first place.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker C:No, exactly.
Speaker B:And I feel like that's how we are too with anything.
Speaker B:Like, with this podcast.
Speaker B:Like, we just wanted to be able to try it and say we did it.
Speaker B:Look where we're at now.
Speaker B:Like, we started with little amount of any effort, and now we got cameras, lights.
Speaker B:Like, we actually put it into our heart and souls to, like, just say we did it and trying to make it something cool, you know, Dude.
Speaker A:And that matters because, you know, how many people sit in an idea on a dream and they don't do nothing but won't do nothing about it.
Speaker A:They will not take the risk.
Speaker D:I feel like that was us.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:That was what started this.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:We all felt creative in a different capacity or in the same capacity.
Speaker C:You know, we all felt this creative itch, and we wanted to do stuff.
Speaker C:Whether it was, like, merchandise production or whether it was skits or different things, we'd always talk about doing stuff, and, you know, we would always hold on to ideas.
Speaker C:And then it got to a point where, you know, we're like, we're not getting any younger.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:It's gonna.
Speaker C:You know, we got.
Speaker C:If we want to chase our dreams, we gotta chase it.
Speaker C:Even if, like, we don't expect anything out of it, we have to, like, you know, say that we try.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because if we don't, we're just gonna sit back and be like, remember all those things we said we were gonna try to do?
Speaker D:It started because we was like, during COVID we would just.
Speaker D:Just get in that stimulus check, and we're getting loaded.
Speaker D:Just smoking hella blunts in the summertime in the garage.
Speaker D:We're just like, bro, somebody should be recording this saying, like, I don't know.
Speaker D:And then eventually.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's the best, too.
Speaker A:To be able to find the bros and be like, dude, we're just doing what we do.
Speaker A:Just the camera is watching us.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:That authenticity, I think that's the biggest thing that I've learned throughout this whole thing, is that entertainment is cool.
Speaker A:People that do all that weird shit to get on, like, yeah, sure, it's entertaining.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, if I'm having a.
Speaker A:I want to watch some trash.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:But authenticity is really where it's at.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:People feel that.
Speaker A:And I really think there's a shift.
Speaker A:And, you know, people are stepping more into these ventures.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Because that.
Speaker A:That fake entertainment, you can tell people are just doing this for the.
Speaker A:You know, to monetize.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:That people are kind of like, all right, we're burnt out from that.
Speaker A:Like, we want to hear people we can relate To.
Speaker C:They want access to the real you.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:And the people, the brands and people who are actually selling the real them and selling authenticity, like in a real way, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:They're.
Speaker C:They're only going to do better.
Speaker D:You know, like you said, like, people relate to you.
Speaker D:People relate to the real you and like the shit that you've been through.
Speaker D:Because it's like a lot of other people been through some similar ass shit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:That's what connects you to them.
Speaker B:And people don't want to feel like they're not alone type of thing too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's why I watch some of the podcasts.
Speaker B:I watch or listen to some of the people speaking.
Speaker B:I'm just like, oh, I feel you on that one, brother.
Speaker B:Or, you know, I even try to like, better myself as a man, just not be listening to people, how they go through what they go through.
Speaker B:And they got rid of this, you know, they stopped doing that.
Speaker B:They turn to God.
Speaker B:They do this and that.
Speaker B:I'm over here like, oh, maybe, you know, I take into consideration, like, I want to do better, be better and just try to show the next man too.
Speaker B:Like, you know, if I can do it, anybody can do it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:If you guys don't mind me asking, how old are you guys?
Speaker C:27.
Speaker D:27.
Speaker D:35 over here.
Speaker B:27, 29.
Speaker A:So we're the same age.
Speaker A:Because you mentioned that you knew I went to McCaffrey.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So did you know me back in the day?
Speaker B:I didn't like know you personally, but I knew of you.
Speaker A:Knew of me?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You were like two grades above me, I believe.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker C:Cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Golf small.
Speaker A:I feel like everyone kind of looks familiar.
Speaker C:We all have siblings, so you might, you know what?
Speaker A:That's probably.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I have older siblings.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah, he got an older sister.
Speaker D:He's the 40 year old family.
Speaker C:That's crazy.
Speaker A:Oh, well, I'm about to be 30, so.
Speaker A:On the table right now.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:We told him we're going to take him to Disneyland so he could, he could replay his youth one last time for.
Speaker A:You have to.
Speaker A:You have to close out the 20s.
Speaker B:Like, I like Disney, though.
Speaker B:I like Disney.
Speaker B:I be down and go, you guys.
Speaker C:It'S going to be a good time.
Speaker A:And you got to take them up on it now.
Speaker A:It's recorded.
Speaker B:They're going to pay for my ticket and everything.
Speaker B:So that's my birthday trip.
Speaker D:They'll use their Fullerton address and be like, we get the discount hey, shout out ztt.
Speaker B:Yeah, Disney's cool.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:But my, my 30th.
Speaker B:Are you 30 or you're saying no.
Speaker A:I'm going to be 30 in July coming up.
Speaker B:Oh man.
Speaker B:You got any plans for the Dirty 30?
Speaker A:No, I was actually just thinking like what if we just all go to Sunsplash?
Speaker B:Oh yeah, that be.
Speaker A:I don't know why.
Speaker C:Take it back, take it back.
Speaker A:I just want to get.
Speaker A:I just want to close out my 20s and just I, I think cuz I had all my kids so young, you know how many kids you have?
Speaker B:You don't mind.
Speaker B:Beautiful kids are.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Two girls, two boys.
Speaker A:Oh I hope they're what you expect.
Speaker A:It's all.
Speaker C:No, just kidding.
Speaker A:Break it down.
Speaker A:Each kid don't.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:Yeah, I've got four.
Speaker B:I'm about the same age or there.
Speaker A:So I have an 11 year old, my eldest and then I have an 8 year old, a 6 year old and my youngest son just turned 4.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:They're about like all right there.
Speaker A:Yeah, kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Within like two, three years.
Speaker B:They're all in school together too.
Speaker B:Like they're all going to go to school together.
Speaker A:They're all going to go to school together.
Speaker A:My youngest starts.
Speaker A:Starts in this coming fall.
Speaker A:So that'll be interesting.
Speaker A:Probably expect more content during that time because it'll be a little easier.
Speaker B:Do you involve your kids in your, in your content?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So they're not.
Speaker B:Never.
Speaker B:No one really knows what these kids look like so.
Speaker B:Or do you post them?
Speaker A:So my eldest daughter.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:People remember her like people.
Speaker B:Oh she was in the early videos.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:They were like Mo's so big now and Mo and like they know her little nicknames and they totally have watched her grow up.
Speaker A:The other kids though.
Speaker A:No, I really try not to post my kids that much.
Speaker A:You know, like a family picture here and again, you know, every now and again.
Speaker A:But I, I just know the weirdos that are online.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I go down rabbit holes of like pedophiles how they'll take kids as pictures.
Speaker A:They'll freaking.
Speaker A:People are just doing AI on the people dark web and I like hell yeah.
Speaker D:There's some sick.
Speaker B:We gotta protect the youth man.
Speaker B:That's the truth.
Speaker B:Like me, I don't want to sound weird but I do like enjoy kids company.
Speaker B:Like I've always been around young kids and for me like I'm always just like even with like young women too.
Speaker B:I'm just like man, I do not want no weirdos around me.
Speaker B:I'm not no, weirdo.
Speaker B:Because I've had younger sisters, you know, that I don't.
Speaker B:I don't fly with that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, like, for me, especially with kids, like, I just see the youth and the beautifulness of kids.
Speaker B:It's like they have.
Speaker B:They're just kids, you know, for me, it's like, you gotta protect these kids, man.
Speaker D:For sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think me, like, with my children, because of the things that I went through when it came to, like, that kind of abuse or, like, just certain things.
Speaker A:1.
Speaker A:So when you have kids, life really gets put into person.
Speaker A:Do you guys have kids?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I'd love to have some someday, so.
Speaker A:Well, hopefully you do.
Speaker A:I'm sure you will.
Speaker A:But when you have kids, I feel like your childhood really gets put into perspective for you.
Speaker A:And after each of my daughters, specifically my daughters.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:They would reach a certain age that certain things happen to me.
Speaker B:Are your daughters the two oldest?
Speaker A:The two oldest, yeah.
Speaker A:And it would trigger the.
Speaker A:Out of me because in retrospect.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I thought certain things were normal that I then realized when I had my own kids.
Speaker A:Oh, this probably wasn't normal.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or, you know, like, and.
Speaker A:And there was certain things where I would have to ask my husband, like, would.
Speaker A:Would you ever do this?
Speaker A:Or, like, you know, what do you think about this?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, no.
Speaker A:Like, as a father.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Like, would you do the.
Speaker A:You know, would you do these?
Speaker A:Would you do that?
Speaker A:You know, and he would, like, be like, like, what the Are you asking me?
Speaker A:Like, why are you asking me these things?
Speaker A:Like, no.
Speaker A:No dad would do this or.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:And it really.
Speaker A:Like, I had moments where I was like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:Like, what the.
Speaker A:You know, and I think because of those moments in my life and because of those trigger points and raising my daughters, I just became really hyper vigilant in protecting my children.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:I'm very.
Speaker A:Like, if I go around somebody, I feel like I can just sniff out a weirdo.
Speaker A:And if I get any kind of vibe like that, like, I'm not afraid to let nobody know.
Speaker A:Like, I don't trust you around my kid.
Speaker D:I mean.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker D:I mean, that's your job as a parent, though.
Speaker C:You gotta.
Speaker D:You gotta take whatever upbringing you got in your experiences, and you have to just try to be better than your parents, essentially.
Speaker D:And I feel like that's all it's really about.
Speaker D:Because, I mean, the same thing.
Speaker D:My dad.
Speaker D:Me as a boy growing up, like, he.
Speaker D:I used to be able to go spend the night at my friend's house.
Speaker D:Do this and that my sister wasn't allowed to do.
Speaker B:Yeah, same.
Speaker D:And then she always just get hella mad and then be like, what?
Speaker D:And as an adult now, I'd be like, no, why would I let my.
Speaker D:Even my son.
Speaker A:Even my.
Speaker D:Yeah, you're my son for me.
Speaker D:Because I'm like, there's weirdos out there.
Speaker D:Like, yeah, you might be cool.
Speaker D:You might be the local dad that's helping out with baseball, but Jesus Christ, who knows if you're a weirdo?
Speaker D:Like, nobody knows.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And statistically speaking, different now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Statistically speaking, predators tend to be in, you know, careers that.
Speaker A:Where they have access to children.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, but I feel the same way about my boys, you know, And I.
Speaker A:I think because you never know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You never know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I feel like with young boys, when it comes to that kind of stuff, there's not as much awareness around it as there is little girls.
Speaker A:Like, we're really quick to protect little girls.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so many things have happened to young boys that they've had to suffer in silence about, because that same protection for young boys is not there the way that it is for girls.
Speaker D:Because it's not what everybody's talking about.
Speaker A:It's not what everybody's worried about, you know?
Speaker A:And then just.
Speaker A:Just even, like, dude, I even think about with my sons, like, the me too movement and just, like, when they get older and.
Speaker A:Hell nah, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:No is a complete sentence.
Speaker A:Don't even put yourself in any kind of situation for any kind of female to be on some.
Speaker A:Because females be on some.
Speaker A:You know, and it scares me a little bit, especially y' all in the date.
Speaker A:Well, I don't know.
Speaker A:You gotta.
Speaker A:You gotta go.
Speaker A:You guys, whatever.
Speaker A:You guys got partners or dating, whatever the hell it is.
Speaker A:Hard.
Speaker A:A hard time.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:For you guys.
Speaker A:I feel for.
Speaker C:Could take just a change of heart to turn into something for something.
Speaker C:And it's crazy, too.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker B:I've had stories, too, where, like, the no was there, and I was like, but I was.
Speaker B:You know, what am I gonna do?
Speaker B:Yeah, but you know, deep down, you're like, oh, really?
Speaker B:No, and then, no, but nose.
Speaker B:No and like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:You almost are, like, trying to, like, convince her almost, too tonight.
Speaker B:And then it's like, no, no, no.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's called coercion.
Speaker A:You know, Dude, I had a.
Speaker A:I had a homegirl, right?
Speaker A:We're not.
Speaker A:We're not homies anymore.
Speaker A:But she had an encounter with a guy, right?
Speaker A:She was on him.
Speaker A:She hella liked him, whatever.
Speaker A:She called me the next day.
Speaker A:She was like, yeah, you know, we did whoop.
Speaker A:And I was like, cool, right?
Speaker A:So a year.
Speaker A:So pass passes.
Speaker A:She meets a guy that she's really serious with, right?
Speaker A:And then she's like.
Speaker A:So I was thinking about that one guy I was with and I think he raped me.
Speaker A:Oh, I don't.
Speaker A:Can't say that.
Speaker A:Great, bust it out because then it'll demonetize you.
Speaker A:And I was like, you totally wanted him.
Speaker A:You totally called me, you totally told me all the details, like, what do you mean right now?
Speaker A:But I think it was like the shame attached to the fact that because it was just like a one night stand, it wasn't nothing serious with homie, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The shame that I think she felt that she allowed herself to go there.
Speaker A:And then when she met a serious guy, I think to herself, she was trying to make it seem like he overstepped or whatever, but he was like way tossed.
Speaker A:And she wasn't way tossed.
Speaker A:Like she was fine, right.
Speaker A:I think about like that and I'm like, God forbid my sons were to have an encounter with a girl.
Speaker A:She fully is, you know, fine with things.
Speaker A:And then years, months later is like the shame that I feel is uncomfortable.
Speaker A:So I'm just gonna say that you took advantage of me.
Speaker A:Hell no, that ain't right.
Speaker A:Yeah, you know, that's taking is common.
Speaker D:That is very happen that happened to me.
Speaker D:And then talk your truth later.
Speaker D:The same thing try to happen.
Speaker D:I didn't say this, say that.
Speaker D:I'm like, like you said I was butt skunk drunk.
Speaker D:I don't know what the you were on.
Speaker D:You didn't seem that junk like, you know, I mean, I was like, what the are you talking about?
Speaker A:Yeah, and that and those kinds of allegations, like it's hella serious.
Speaker A:Someone's life, career, reputation, everything.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, everything.
Speaker A:And, and being someone who.
Speaker A:That happened to me when I was 13.
Speaker A:Like that's not something you play about.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That has real repercussions.
Speaker A:There's real scars there, real things that I've had to work through to overcome intimacy, to.
Speaker A:To just overcome anxiety and parenting.
Speaker A:Like all kinds of.
Speaker A:It's not just, oh, I busted it open one night, I regret it now.
Speaker A:You know, to evade responsibility or whatever.
Speaker A:Hell no.
Speaker C:And like you said, it's evading responsibility.
Speaker C:The shame forces them to try to cope with it however they can make.
Speaker B:Themselves feel better in a way.
Speaker D:You know, it's too common than not nowadays too.
Speaker D:Because you see all these cases and they're getting breaded out for all this.
Speaker D:Shame's too much.
Speaker D:It.
Speaker D:Let me get a bag.
Speaker D:Let me go say this and say that.
Speaker D:It's like, yep.
Speaker C:Yeah, we talked about it.
Speaker C:In even a previous podcast, there was like an NCAA athletes who've lost their professional career because of lies.
Speaker C:Yeah, it came back.
Speaker C:The case was over too late.
Speaker C:At that point, he's, you know, whatever.
Speaker C:I don't want him no more.
Speaker B:Yeah, he had a good time that he didn't even, you know, for something he didn't do.
Speaker A:Or even the Weinstein.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That was like a.
Speaker A:Have you guys gone down the rabbit hole with that?
Speaker B:Not deep.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So it.
Speaker A:On the outside looking in.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:If you look at just social media and the testimonies, whatever, it looks like, damn, this guy really took advantage of a lot of.
Speaker A:Of, you know, actresses that were up and coming.
Speaker A:But these actresses that testified, right, were asked to describe what his genitalia looked like.
Speaker A:He had gotten gangrene on his balls years ago.
Speaker A:So he doesn't have nuts.
Speaker A:All of them, their testimonies were false because they described his genitalia as like, yeah, well, he has nuts and he has his penis and this, that and the other, which.
Speaker A:Which is not true because if you would have seen his genitalia, you would know he has no nutsack.
Speaker A:So it's like, damn all these women.
Speaker A:You know, that's scary because even when I first heard that story, I was like, oh, yeah, this is Hollywood, the elite.
Speaker A:Like, I was like, yeah, there's.
Speaker A:And he looks a little weird, you know, but.
Speaker A:But then when you actually look at the facts, you're like, whoa, hold on.
Speaker A:Yeah, you know, I give it to a few.
Speaker A:Maybe he did some weird, you know, trying to coerce, you know, suck my wee wee.
Speaker A:I'll give you a roll.
Speaker A:But I don't know.
Speaker A:I think he would notice if a man was missing.
Speaker A:Nuts.
Speaker D:Exactly.
Speaker D:I mean, it's just crazy.
Speaker D:Like you said, the culture nowadays, I mean, the dating culture is just.
Speaker D:It's just different, bro.
Speaker D:I mean, not everybody's.
Speaker C:Woke.
Speaker D:You're so woke.
Speaker D:But then it's like, are you really guys?
Speaker D:You just reported, like, I don't know.
Speaker D:Yeah, some people just be stupid, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah, some people just don't even think of the repercussion of, like, getting like.
Speaker B:Like how they're just gonna throw an allegation like that.
Speaker B:And then it just.
Speaker B:It was totally false.
Speaker D:Like, totally.
Speaker B:What were you thinking?
Speaker B:Like, that they weren't gonna find out, you know, like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think a lot of ladies don't put themselves in the position of a man.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And, you know, I'm a woman.
Speaker A:Girls can get away with a lot of that men can't get away with.
Speaker A:That's just the reality.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and in a lot of sense, you guys have it really hard.
Speaker A:There's a lot of pressure on you guys's back to lead to, you know, have it all figured out and put together and, you know, do what you got to do, which as you should.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But you guys get held to this standard that women don't get held to, that could really affect your lives and the.
Speaker A:And just have serious repercussions.
Speaker A:So I think about that type of.
Speaker A:For my sons.
Speaker D:No.
Speaker A:Never want them to be in a situation like that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Like I said, no kids yet.
Speaker D:But, like, those are things that go through my mind, which is also why I'm like, I'm happy to have kids because I don't have it all figured out.
Speaker D:You know what I mean?
Speaker D:But then I'm also living and learning, and I'm seeing so many things, and I'm just like, yeah, I'm gonna write that down right there.
Speaker B:Like, yeah.
Speaker D:For when I do have one.
Speaker D:Like, let me just know.
Speaker B:Better.
Speaker D:Let me do better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You want me to tell you, like, little secret?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You don't raise your kids, your kids raise you.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker A:Yeah, Definitely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It ain't.
Speaker A:It ain't me raising.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm instilling morals, values, and principles.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But everything that I've learned in the growth that I have had is because my kids taught me it.
Speaker A:Learning less, you know?
Speaker A:So you're never going to fully be ready.
Speaker A:You're never gonna be like, all right, I got to the point that I figured it all out.
Speaker A:I healed enough.
Speaker A:It's the perfect time to have a kid.
Speaker A:No, it's gonna be.
Speaker A:You're gonna have a child and everything you thought you fixed.
Speaker A:Guess what?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Your kid is gonna make you face me.
Speaker B:Psych.
Speaker B:That's all.
Speaker B:I figure it out.
Speaker D:That's why it's like.
Speaker D:I mean.
Speaker D:I mean, me and my dad had, like, little.
Speaker D:Our problematic history, and.
Speaker D:But then, like, the older I get and, like, the more like, life I experience, the more, like, as a man, I become.
Speaker D:I'm just like, man, he doing his best, you know?
Speaker D:That's why I said, I'm like, as a parent, your obligation is just do better than Your parents did?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:And at the end of day, that's all you can do.
Speaker D:Like you said, they're teaching you while you're.
Speaker D:Yeah, you think you got to figure it out.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker D:Until that day, you wake up and you're just.
Speaker D:Oh, maybe, I don't know.
Speaker B:They're still growing themselves too.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, I think part of it's a news flash when you're like, you're getting to a certain age and you're like, damn.
Speaker C:At this point, my parents had a house.
Speaker C:They were exactly juggling kids and all this.
Speaker C:And I'm still like, here.
Speaker C:I don't even have a house for 20.
Speaker B:That's how easy it was.
Speaker C:You start realizing, like, damn, they had hard days too, and they were coming home to me as a little kid.
Speaker C:I don't even have that responsibility and I'm complaining about stuff.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, things like that.
Speaker C:It really puts it into perspective.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hell yeah.
Speaker A:We bought our first home when we were.
Speaker A:He was 25, I was 24.
Speaker A:And I remember thinking to myself, oh, my God, my parents were 23, 22, moving to G.
Speaker A:Like, no, it's.
Speaker A:I mean, we're.
Speaker A:It's nice houses.
Speaker A:Yeah, right?
Speaker A:I was like, well, hell yeah.
Speaker A:If all our neighbors were like 40, 50, retirement age, they must have looked at my parents like these young ass bucks moving.
Speaker A:How the did you guys move?
Speaker A:Yeah, because even our neighbors, right, and we kind of live in the hood.
Speaker A:Our neighbors were like, oh, you guys are new renters?
Speaker A:No, we.
Speaker A:We bought the house.
Speaker A:No, we own.
Speaker A:We own.
Speaker B:We own businesses.
Speaker A:We're paying mortgages.
Speaker A:And it just.
Speaker A:They were like, they were just kind of like in shock.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And everybody around us was a little bit older.
Speaker A:And it just.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was.
Speaker A:It's a trip now that I can think about it or even like sometimes I think, think, okay, I had.
Speaker A:My mom had me at 16.
Speaker A:I made her a grandma at what, 34, 35.
Speaker A:I'm like four years away from that, five years away from that.
Speaker A:I cannot be like, imagine being a grandma at that age.
Speaker B:I refuse.
Speaker A:You know, like, back then I thought, like, yeah, my mom's older than me.
Speaker A:Like, it wasn't in.
Speaker A:Into perspective Now I'm like, oh, yeah, she was super young.
Speaker A:I was super young.
Speaker B:Young.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I think too.
Speaker B:Like, my dad was.
Speaker B:Or like my parents were young too.
Speaker B:Like, I remember them coming to like, my school.
Speaker B:And I mean, my parents had me at like 23.
Speaker B:So, like, at my age now, like, my parents were going to, like, school functions, taking care of a family, having mortgages, and I'm over here like, what am I gonna eat tonight?
Speaker B:But, I mean, I got my bills and this and that, but, I mean, I ain't got no family, like, to where I'm just like, oh, my God, how am I gonna make this happen, you know?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And then I work with, like, grown men who got families, and I'm like, oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I'm over here trying to make a car payment.
Speaker B:I'm trying to go to the club tonight.
Speaker B:My daughter got this going on, My son's got this going on.
Speaker B:I gotta make sure I have this.
Speaker B:Christmas is around the corner.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, man, am I in the right career?
Speaker B:It's crazy though, because, yeah, like, you don't know what the next person's got going on, like, straight up.
Speaker B:And it's crazy too, how, like, at my age and the ages before me, how they are just were able to do what they got to do.
Speaker B:And I'm over here stressing like, oh, man, am I gonna be able to make it or what?
Speaker A:That's why my hat's off to my husband to the fullest.
Speaker A:Because even when we were young and we had our first daughter, we both agreed, like, he wanted me stay at home, he wanted me to raise the kids.
Speaker B:See, and that's like, something about me I would love to do, but I'm working on it, dude.
Speaker A:We lived, don't get me wrong, we lived humbly for a very, very long time.
Speaker A:Like, he just made shit happen.
Speaker A:However we could make shit fucking happen happen.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Shout out to your man.
Speaker B:You hear me?
Speaker A:Yes, babe.
Speaker A:Shout out to you.
Speaker A:And that's something I've always admired in him because he always knew how important it was for me to raise the kids.
Speaker A:And he always understood the value of, like, a woman being in the home, raising the kids.
Speaker A:And so even when we were down and bad and whatever, like, he just made shit happen.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:There was.
Speaker A:There was a point.
Speaker A:We were living in Oak park, we had our three kids, our first three, one bedroom apartment, but we were so focused on stacking.
Speaker A:We had this goal.
Speaker A:We were like, even though we're here and it seemed like all our friends were better because they didn't have kids, they had nice cars, they, you know, were able to have all this free time.
Speaker A:We sacrificed that part of our youth because we knew, okay, we want to get our.
Speaker A:Our kids in a house that we own in this Amount of time we crunch the numbers.
Speaker A:This is what we got to reach to do what we got to do.
Speaker A:And we did it.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:His goal was, I want to be a homeowner by 26.
Speaker A:We did it a year earlier.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:So it was like.
Speaker A:It took a lot of sacrifice.
Speaker C:Congrats.
Speaker A:It took a lot of nights where I was like, oh, y' all are going to dinner.
Speaker A:We can't go.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker D:Maybe next time you guys.
Speaker B:Put that fire under your ass to, like, you know, make your circumstances a lot better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:When you want something greater than your own, like, I mean, it's.
Speaker D:It's not easy, but, I mean, it gives you that little kick in the ass or I gotta do it.
Speaker B:You guys didn't fell victim to just, you know, poor me, poor me.
Speaker B:You guys were trying to get, you know.
Speaker A:No, we had to.
Speaker A:We had to.
Speaker A:And it just.
Speaker A:It was hard during that time, you know, it was hard, but I'm thankful we stuck it through.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I think God put us in positions as well, you know, Like.
Speaker A:Like, there was a few times in life where I feel like we were scared to make a certain decision.
Speaker A:And God kind of put it in a.
Speaker A:In a way that, like, we had no choice but to make that decision.
Speaker A:Whether we feared it, whether we thought we could make it or not.
Speaker A:God said, I'm kicking you out the nest.
Speaker A:Y' all gonna have to figure it out.
Speaker A:And it ended up working.
Speaker B:And it's like that faith of, like, fear of having.
Speaker B:Cuz even me, too.
Speaker B:I'll be like, God, please, Like, I need this job.
Speaker B:I need this work, please.
Speaker B:I'm gonna send this text.
Speaker B:Let this boss tell me, like, this.
Speaker B:This, like, whoever I'm trying to get in contact with to get on with this company, like, please let him, like, bring me on.
Speaker B:So I'll send the text.
Speaker B:My God, you got me.
Speaker B:10 minutes go by.
Speaker B:Yeah, buddy.
Speaker B:Pull up at this job site this.
Speaker A:Time, I'm like, yeah.
Speaker B:Talking about, baby, I believe in you.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:So it's like, yeah, just having that faith and believing in anything, like, whatever it is, just believe in something and just go for it.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And living right, dude.
Speaker A:Living right.
Speaker A:I'm a big believer in karma.
Speaker A:What goes around comes around.
Speaker C:Done.
Speaker A:And I would tell my husband, like, we gotta live right and do right by people, because.
Speaker A:Okay, so I really believe that the karma that you get when you're a parent is never.
Speaker A:It's never you.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:It's never in.
Speaker A:Done to you.
Speaker A:Per se.
Speaker A:I believe that when you become a parent, the karma that you experience is through your children.
Speaker A:I swear, I watched that happen with my dad and his kids, my mom and.
Speaker A:And, you know, I.
Speaker A:I've seen that through with almost every adult that whatever they up in life, they're living their karma through their kids.
Speaker A:And I told him, I was like, we need to live right, because I don't want our kids to be our com.
Speaker A:Our karma.
Speaker A:I don't want to disconnect from them when we're older.
Speaker A:I don't want them to look back and be like, well, because you were this, that, and the other, and you showed me this, that, and the other, I need to limit my access, you know, and you can't come around, or I have this resentment with you towards this, that, and the other, you know?
Speaker A:So that spiritual sense as a woman, I think also kind of kept us balanced because my husband didn't think about like that, you know, he's thinking like, we're surviving and we gonna survive however the we need to survive.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:But I'd be over here, be like.
Speaker A:And, you know, it's no secret, you know, back in the day, we used to get our little hustle on, you know, street pharmacist.
Speaker A:But even if it came down to someone, someone gave him a little 20 over, you know, in his mind, he'd be like, yup, I came up a dub.
Speaker A:And I'd be like, you better call that back right now and be like, hey, you gave me 20 over, bro.
Speaker A:I got you the next time up.
Speaker A:Or whatever the hell, right?
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:He even little like that, even though we were doing wrong at that time, just still do right, even though we was doing a little wrong.
Speaker A:And then I would tell God, I'd be like, lord God, come back to you.
Speaker B:And, yeah, I know it ain't right.
Speaker C:But I did the right thing I got to do.
Speaker A:You know, you see us struggling, we're just trying to survive, God.
Speaker A:I swear to God, when we don't got to do this no more, we won't, you know, And.
Speaker A:And yeah, luckily, God put us in a position where we said goodbye to all that life.
Speaker A:And we're like, come.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker A:And it was such a relief, too, to, like, finally live and be like, all right, cool.
Speaker A:We don't got to look over our shoulder.
Speaker A:We don't got to worry about cops coming and knocking our door down.
Speaker A:We don't got to worry about who knows where we live or whatever the.
Speaker A:Because we're like, Fully, fully living.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You know, put us in a position.
Speaker D:And that's what it's about.
Speaker D:I mean, hey, ain't that the American dream?
Speaker D:Hey, everybody likes to make it popular, but it's like, what'd you do to get there?
Speaker D:Yeah, what'd you do to get there?
Speaker D:And that's what the.
Speaker B:Had to cut some corners and, and burn some bridges, but damn it.
Speaker A:And that's in every class.
Speaker A:I don't give a what no one says, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:It's just some people know how to do a white collar like, because they understand business and finances and you know, you gotta get your hands dirty eventually, but there's.
Speaker A:There's gonna be a little grit on the come up.
Speaker C:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:No matter what.
Speaker B:And you can't be afraid of that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:I was, I was tripping out because I was watching Wolf on Wall street the other day and I'm just like, just watching and tripping out because it's the same.
Speaker D:I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:You can either be in the streets or you're doing illegal on Wall street in.
Speaker D:And like you're saying white collar somehow some way to come up is not.
Speaker D:It's never a straight, straight path to it, you know.
Speaker B:And that's like one thing too with me like these past few years.
Speaker B:I just recently got my license back, but I was, I was no license for like three years.
Speaker B:And I just noticed every time I was ducking court dates, I was ducking what I was supposed to be doing.
Speaker B:Something else came back and got me something bigger.
Speaker B:And it was just like, damn, damn, like, why don't I just get my together and do what I'm supposed to do?
Speaker B:Because me ducking all this, it's leading to bigger shit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then finally I just started taking the courses and doing step by step by step.
Speaker B:Little by little, everything got better.
Speaker B:This got dropped.
Speaker B:This got dropped.
Speaker B:I don't have to pay this no more.
Speaker B:We're gonna give you your license back.
Speaker D:God bless it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So it's like all I gotta do is just get my together and actually do what I had to do.
Speaker B:Because I mean, I was trying to live on the edge.
Speaker B:I didn't come find my ass.
Speaker B:And then they found my ass and.
Speaker A:It'S like all these fines and cars getting impounded and it's just, it's a ripple effect.
Speaker A:I actually learned that in therapy because one of my probation stipulations was I had to go to anger management attitude and behavioral classes and I'll never forget, the counselor was like, and it's so stupid right?
Speaker A:Now that I think about it, I should have known this, but obviously I didn't.
Speaker A:That frontal lobe wasn't developed, but she was like, every action has a consequence.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker A:And everything is a domino effect, you know?
Speaker A:So you make one bad decision, hella more bad decisions are going to happen.
Speaker A:And that applies to life.
Speaker A:You wake up in the morning and you're like, I'm gonna lay in bed 10 more minutes.
Speaker A:All right, cool.
Speaker A:You laid in bed 10 more minutes.
Speaker A:But then you're probably gonna off the next like two, three hours because your first decision of the day was something unproductive.
Speaker A:Now if you're like, I'm gonna wake up early.
Speaker B:You got a camera to do today.
Speaker A:But it all boils down to choices, right?
Speaker A:And it all boils down to the discipline that you have to achieve the level in life that you want for yourself.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:We all have different definitions of success.
Speaker A:You know, I like to be a productive person.
Speaker A:I like to make the most of my day.
Speaker A:I actually feel like I'm like a piece of shit if I'm not making the most of my day.
Speaker A:I think that's just how my brain works.
Speaker A:Like I can't rest, you know?
Speaker C:No, definitely.
Speaker A:But that applies to everything.
Speaker A:Getting your license and then going back better.
Speaker A:And then the job is hitting you up, right?
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:If you wouldn't have, then you're getting pulled over in fines and impounds, right.
Speaker A:In jail, you know, or you sleep in.
Speaker A:You off your day, half the day is gone.
Speaker A:Now you couldn't go grocery shopping now you don't know what the you're gonna eat for dinner.
Speaker A:You don't know what you're gonna eat for dinner.
Speaker B:I'm selling for McDonald's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Or Connected.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You get up early, you sweep the house, you're like, you know what?
Speaker A:I feel good.
Speaker A:I'm gonna get a little red.
Speaker A:I'm gonna make myself a good lunch.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:You're productive.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:It's just, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Do some laundry, you look good.
Speaker B:You feel good.
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker C:No, definitely true.
Speaker A:Your thoughts become your reality.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:You stay in a dark room for a long time, it's going to get some dark thoughts for show.
Speaker B:Tik Tok I.
Speaker B:It reads the energy.
Speaker B:Those videos get a little dark.
Speaker D:Are you sad?
Speaker D:Let me give you hell of to make you more sad.
Speaker B:Are you still scrolling?
Speaker C:No, it doesn't.
Speaker C:You got to stay proactive, not reactive.
Speaker B:Cuz you Know, once you take that little comfortable seat, you get a little too comfortable and then shit's just out the window at that point.
Speaker C:Yeah, you don't stay ready.
Speaker C:You got to get ready.
Speaker C:Sometimes when you got to get ready, you're already late, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:And at that point, you're off your opportunities or you're off other things or responsibilities in your life.
Speaker C:And it's like as you said, you, you don't do one responsibility.
Speaker C:You wake up late, didn't, you know, charge your car or put gas in your car or something.
Speaker C:And then you're doing, you're rushing.
Speaker C:Oh, I don't have enough to get there.
Speaker C:Now you're late.
Speaker C:You see every aspect of life, whether it's work, you hold off and procrastinate, something goes wrong.
Speaker C:Now I don't meet my deliverable.
Speaker C:Rather than, oh, if I would have done it two weeks in advance and then been proactive on it, I would have caught it early enough to fix it before.
Speaker B:Yeah, you feel good too.
Speaker B:Doing the things you know you don't want to do either.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Because I wake up to him like, I'm calling in today, now I love money.
Speaker B:And we're off.
Speaker B:You know, that's what it is, we're off.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we live in an age of instant gratification too.
Speaker A:So it's like we expect that, that dopamine, we expect that the outcome quicker than we normally would.
Speaker A:And I know that's because of technology, I know that's because of television.
Speaker A:I know that's because of just we've, we've programmed people to think that life is supposed to be like this all the time.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And even just like you mentioned, tick tock, you know, insta all this scrolling, right, you're training your brain to have a chemical reaction instantly a dopamine hit, right?
Speaker A:So then when you aren't on that, when you're in real life and, and the flow of how real life really is, which is supposed to be actually slow and steady, you know, and productive, you're feeling like you're constantly behind.
Speaker A:You're feeling like you're not doing enough.
Speaker A:You're feeling like, like kind of like you, you plummet a little bit, right?
Speaker A:That's an actual real life chemical reaction in your brain.
Speaker A:Because you're training your brain to think that it needs constant gratification all the time and quickly.
Speaker A:You know, that's why everyone's impatient.
Speaker C:Yeah, because we're fed the, you know, the finish line.
Speaker C:We're not necessarily Fed the reality of.
Speaker A:The journey of getting there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:And we might be shown the journey, but it's shown in a pretty way that's, you know, makeup's on it and everything.
Speaker C:Whereas in reality, like you said, it's going to be some tough days.
Speaker C:There's going to be days where you have to live humbly.
Speaker C:There's going to be days where you got to focus on what you have to do, not what you want to do, because you don't have any other option.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's.
Speaker A:There's going to be days.
Speaker A:You guys have shitty guests on the podcast, and the podcast ain't doing numbers, you know, or it's a slow season.
Speaker D:Back to the goddamn drawing board.
Speaker D:Why stop?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:And it's back to the ground.
Speaker A:All right, what do we got to tweak?
Speaker A:What do we got to fix?
Speaker A:You know, what should we do different?
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker C:Yeah, that leads to my next question.
Speaker C:I mean, you've made a lot of transformations through your content creation journey already.
Speaker C:You know, how.
Speaker C:How do you conclude when it's.
Speaker C:I mean, not conclude, but how.
Speaker C:1.
Speaker C:Do you know, when it's time to make, you know, some type of change or some type of.
Speaker C:Of evolution to what.
Speaker C:What it is you're doing or does it happen naturally?
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So I feel like, with me, I'm very intuitive in just being present with what I feel like God is calling me to do.
Speaker A:So I'm a woman of faith.
Speaker A:I make it a priority to have a relationship with God.
Speaker A:Daily, I'm listening to sermons, I'm talking to him.
Speaker A:I wake up, I pray, I go to sleep, I pray.
Speaker A:I pray for people throughout the day.
Speaker A:That keeps me grounded.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I'm just.
Speaker A:I trust so much in his plan, in my life, that I really don't sweat those transition phases.
Speaker A:Like, I'll think about it for a second, but then I'll be like, I'm flowing because I know God's putting me where I'm supposed to be.
Speaker A:Like, recently, right?
Speaker A:I had my best friend, she was like, I kind of feel like, you know, your content's shifting a little bit.
Speaker A:Like, you were first doing a lot of your personal testimony and whatnot, but you've been doing a lot more work with the rappers, and I kind of just feel like it isn't you.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker A:And I thought about that for a second.
Speaker A:I was like, huh?
Speaker A:I was like, I really just feel like God put me in this position to now put Me in another position to plant seeds in a demographic that I wasn't originally in.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And I'm looking at it as, like, how wonderful that I get to sit down with these men and have these conversations.
Speaker A:And because I live both sides of the.
Speaker A:Of the lane, you know, I can relate to great, you know, and I could bring a fresh perspective.
Speaker A:I can bring God's will and what he's done into my life, into these conversations that are being had in this space, you know?
Speaker A:But for a second, I thought, huh, am I, like, am I straying from my content?
Speaker A:But I was like, no.
Speaker A:Like, it's just.
Speaker A:I trust that God is putting me exactly where I'm supposed to be with exactly who I'm supposed to be with, and I'm gonna trust in it.
Speaker A:So right now I feel like, okay, I'm gonna work more in this area and these endeavors.
Speaker A:And when I feel called to go back to whatever, or even if he calls me like, hey, today I put this on your heart, share it, you know, then I will do that.
Speaker A:The other day, he put something on my.
Speaker A:I forget what I shared.
Speaker A:He put something on my heart.
Speaker A:Oh, I think I said I respect a lot, like, step parents who can, like, parent copacetically, right?
Speaker A:He put it on my heart, and I just said it, right?
Speaker A:I hadn't made a lot of content, personal content, in a while, right?
Speaker A:So I just.
Speaker A:I really listen to what he calls me to do when I'm called to do it.
Speaker A:And I don't sweat the transition.
Speaker A:I don't sweat where I'm at, because I really believe that no one is going to understand your anointing.
Speaker A:You know, no one is going to understand why God puts you in certain positions in life because they're not living your purpose.
Speaker A:There's times I don't even understand it.
Speaker A:There's times where I'm like, why am I in this room?
Speaker A:Why am I talking to these people?
Speaker A:What is it that you're trying to do?
Speaker A:But one thing I always do is God, work through me, speak through me.
Speaker A:Before I came on the podcast, on the way here, I was like, lord, speak through me on this podcast.
Speaker A:Podcast, you know, let me show people you in me, you know?
Speaker A:And yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker C:That's awesome.
Speaker C:Because, you know, we deal with.
Speaker C:With similar talks or thoughts at least of, like, you know, we switched it up in season two, and now we're seeing, like, oh, is it.
Speaker C:You know, do people want this?
Speaker C:Do they want.
Speaker C:We're hearing other people say, hey, go back to what you were doing or some people that love what, what we are doing, you know, and it's so easy to get caught up in like the comparison like we were talking about earlier or you know, performance or something.
Speaker C:And sometimes it's, it's nice to have a reminder that you got to lean on your faith and what you're doing and, and faith in yourself as well.
Speaker C:Just that whatever you're doing is, is intentional and it's gonna reach who is meant to reach.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And of course, you know, it's a little bit more free spirited with me because my, my purpose wasn't driven by monetary gain.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Obviously, if you guys are running a business and you guys are like, we want to monetize this and we want to like have passive income doing the podcast, then you do have to pay attention to your.
Speaker A:So you do have to pay attention to the feedback.
Speaker A:You know, what are the fans saying?
Speaker A:Things like that.
Speaker A:But my biggest advice to you guys would just be like, do what feels right to you guys.
Speaker A:You know, do what feels right to.
Speaker A:Like if we were, if the cameras were not on and the mics were not here and we were just stoned in the garage right now, how would we be talking?
Speaker A:You know, and just stay rooted in that, stay rooted in that.
Speaker A:When every, because everyone's going to have an opinion, everyone's going to have a suggestion.
Speaker A:Everyone's going to be like, well, if I was you, I would do it this way or right, for sure.
Speaker A:Do it the way y' all would do it in real life.
Speaker A:And that's it.
Speaker B:Because if they're telling you how they would do it and let them go.
Speaker D:Do it, then the ones that talking are not doing it 100%.
Speaker C:So there's an upload button.
Speaker B:We're going, we're going to start making.
Speaker D:Them like a link to YouTube.
Speaker D:How to sign up?
Speaker C:Go ahead.
Speaker B:We got a tutorial on how to get the podcast.
Speaker A:If people think that this shit's easy, it's really not, bro.
Speaker B:And I tell everybody too, that comes on like, cuz I'll ask them like, so do you have fun with everything you're doing?
Speaker B:They'll say, yeah.
Speaker B:And I'm like, I'll tell you what, we're having fun too.
Speaker B:But it's so hard.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not going to lie to you, man, it is so hard what we're trying to do too.
Speaker B:And it's like anything what you're trying to do is just hard.
Speaker B:It's never going to be easy.
Speaker A:It's learning curves, technology Learning curves, editing, you know, the ambiance of it, the lot lights, the ideas coming together, you know, making sure you don't forget to turn one on.
Speaker D:Your audio's on.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And then even just being personable, talking to people.
Speaker A:You know, people think that just sitting and talking to people is easy.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:When you have a guest that will not talk, you're just trying so hard.
Speaker D:To get them out.
Speaker D:You're like, come on, give me something.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And they're just like, huh?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it was cool.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, what do I say to this?
Speaker B:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker B:That was just, like, at the beginning, like, it was very hard for us to just keep a conversation because it'd be like, him.
Speaker B:So how do we do?
Speaker B:What's up with this weekend?
Speaker B:It was cool.
Speaker B:I had a good time.
Speaker B:You know, work was pretty tough.
Speaker C:And it was like, bro, we need to.
Speaker C:Definitely.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:But it was also.
Speaker C:Part of it was comfortability.
Speaker C:That's why we.
Speaker C:We don't.
Speaker C:I think we've said it, actually, on the podcast.
Speaker C:I'm not sure, but we did this for, like, over a year before we even went live.
Speaker C:Because, yeah, part of it was we.
Speaker C:The cameras would be on, and we'd know it's not even going on YouTube, and we'd be freezing up, stuttering, like, doing everything, like, you know, know, just because it didn't feel natural, it wasn't something that we.
Speaker B:And it is, like, you know, kind of weird, too, just having cameras in front of you, too, because even, like, when we do vlogs, like, out in public, I'll get the camera, and I'm just like, oh, everyone's looking at me now.
Speaker A:You get that imposter syndrome.
Speaker A:You get in your head, you start thinking, like, what are people gonna think of me, man up opposite.
Speaker D:I'm like, look at me.
Speaker D:More people look at me.
Speaker D:The center.
Speaker C:No, I definitely.
Speaker C:I definitely struggle with that at first because, you know, cameras on you 24 7, it's like they could see everything from the little ticks to, like, you know, if it's a bad angle to this.
Speaker C:And I would just be like, well.
Speaker C:But it gets to a point where, hey, if this is, you know, what your passion is and this is what you want to do, and it's like, you have to do it to your best ability.
Speaker C:And, you know, my best ability isn't just leaving it in a hard drive.
Speaker C:You know, my best ability is throwing it out there, figuring out how it can get better.
Speaker C:And you.
Speaker C:You Know, you can't know until you.
Speaker A:Yeah, and it gets tricky too, in the day and age of, like, people like, wanting to cancel people.
Speaker A:I don't believe in that.
Speaker A:I think it's goofy.
Speaker D:Everyone makes mistakes.
Speaker D:Everybody makes mistakes.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:I'm like, we all talk about dumb behind closed doors.
Speaker A:We all have our opinions.
Speaker A:Like, I'm sure some feminist will freak out that I started talking about Weinstein.
Speaker A:I honestly could give a less.
Speaker B:You know what I'm.
Speaker B:Truth.
Speaker C:I'm the same way.
Speaker A:I'm like, cancel me, not care.
Speaker A:You know, Cuz we're all thinking it.
Speaker A:I just said it.
Speaker A:Don't shoot the messenger.
Speaker B:And then there's someone that wants to hear that.
Speaker B:Like, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker D:Like, finally said it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or it's just a fresh perspective and, you know, maybe someone else took the time to understand all the facts and figure everything out, you know, but we've, we've created this society that's like, everyone's got to walk on eggshells and you got to watch what you say and if you align with this side or that side or whatever the.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Especially politics.
Speaker A:Like, I'm just, like, I'm over it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You can't.
Speaker C:You can't please everybody.
Speaker D:You know, we just went on a cruise the other day or a month ago or something, and we're talking to like these random ladies.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:And they're like some white folks from what, like the Mideast or something?
Speaker C:They're Colorado.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:They're just like talking about politics, whatever.
Speaker D:And me and Chris, we're all in the hot tub.
Speaker D:We're just in there.
Speaker D:It's like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:It's crazy.
Speaker D:Like, damn.
Speaker D:That's what's up.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker D:And then like all of a sudden, she started talking about like, some, some.
Speaker D:I'm a firm believer in Donald Trump.
Speaker D:And she looks at me, she's like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker C:She's.
Speaker D:I don't want to offend it.
Speaker C:I'm just like, she goes like, she's talking to us.
Speaker C:Vi Heart say bunch.
Speaker C:We got a.
Speaker C:Our arms up.
Speaker C:We're at the hot tub, just chilling.
Speaker C:We're drinking, talking to each other.
Speaker D:I love Donald.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So she goes into something.
Speaker C:No, I'm a hardcore trumpy.
Speaker C:I can't lie.
Speaker C:No offense, guys.
Speaker C:We hadn't said anything.
Speaker C:She didn't know how we felt or anything, but just based off of her look at us, you know, she thought we were, you know, we were.
Speaker D:She did it like three times.
Speaker D:She starts going on about this and that and space and this.
Speaker D:And she's like, again, I'm sorry.
Speaker D:I don't want to offend you.
Speaker D:Look at that.
Speaker D:I'm like, who the Giving her?
Speaker A:Like, damn.
Speaker D:Like five.
Speaker D:Damn, that's crazy.
Speaker D:Like three.
Speaker D:That's what's up.
Speaker C:We start cracking up, laughing and looking at each other.
Speaker C:She's like, why are you guys laughing?
Speaker C:Like, gets all anxious and, like, worried, like.
Speaker C:And we're just like.
Speaker C:Because we don't care about women.
Speaker D:I don't give a.
Speaker D:I'm just listening to you talk, bro.
Speaker A:Like, we're just conversating and that people, especially when they're like, more Republican or whatever, the like, people really feel like.
Speaker B:Like wholeheartedly, just like, I mean, I get what you.
Speaker B:Like, if you believe in what you believe, whatever, whatever.
Speaker B:But like, and politics will ruin relationships for sure.
Speaker B:And that's what sucks too, because some people just can't have a conversation about it.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And it's just like, I.
Speaker A:You know why?
Speaker A:It's because I've seen them be like, if we don't.
Speaker A:And it's funny because it's such a trip because somebody wants to be right.
Speaker B:And somebody has to be wrong.
Speaker A:But it's also like.
Speaker A:So I'm a big believer in, like, you're selective with who your circle is.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because you got to be grounded in your morals, values and principles.
Speaker A:Principles, yeah, right.
Speaker A:I believe in that.
Speaker A:On the other.
Speaker A:Well, I don't want to say the other side, making it seem like I'm a.
Speaker A:All the way.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Okay, but listen, on the other side, there's always like.
Speaker A:They're always like, well, the cut off.
Speaker A:And the reason for why we can't have a conversation or like, be copacetic is because of the morals, values and the principles.
Speaker A:And I'm just like, I don't know, know, like we, We've.
Speaker A:We should be able to have dialogue and opposite opinions and it not be taken so goddamn personally.
Speaker C:Yeah, I know your feelings and your thoughts aren't law to me, so why am I going to be offended?
Speaker A:You live your life the way you want to live life, whatever the works for you, that's great.
Speaker A:Same over here.
Speaker A:And we may not agree on everything.
Speaker A:We might not agree on nothing.
Speaker A:But if you respect me and I respect you, where's the problem?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, so it just trips me out.
Speaker A:It trips me out.
Speaker C:Out.
Speaker C:Well, you even look at, like, what.
Speaker C:What is, you know, the foundation of those Views and those feelings oftentimes are based on your life experiences, your demographic or where, your geographic placement on the map.
Speaker C:It's based on, you know, self interest.
Speaker C:Realistically, how am I, I expected to prioritize your self interest?
Speaker C:Like, yeah, you know, ultimately we, we're never going to be on 100 same page.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm okay to say, hey, that's fine.
Speaker C:I respect you.
Speaker C:You respect me?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I can listen to your thoughts all, all you want.
Speaker C:I'm not going to disagree with you or do anything, but at the same time, you know, don't preach to me.
Speaker D:Don't convert me, bro.
Speaker C:And maybe I could spark something in your brain, maybe you spark something in mine.
Speaker C:And all it's going to open to is more me.
Speaker C:All it's going to lead to is more open minded and more, you know, conversation, but understanding.
Speaker C:If I just stay closed off and oh, he's stupid.
Speaker C:Oh, he's dumb.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:What am I going to learn from that?
Speaker A:Yeah, I had a very great conversation with, with a communist.
Speaker A:Communist yesterday.
Speaker A:And like, I was like, oh, bro, like, okay, was I offended?
Speaker A:No, I was actually intrigued.
Speaker A:I was like, you know what?
Speaker A:I think I might go read some Mao.
Speaker A:Now I'm out of.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go try to understand what makes you.
Speaker C:I want to understand you.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I'm not taking it like your feelings should offend me, but there are so many people in this world that are offended by you just speaking your own truth or, and it's like, like you got to be able to decipher what is your truth and what is their truth.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:Everyone needs a little bit more curiosity.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, walk us through.
Speaker A:How did that happen?
Speaker C:How did you have a conversation with the communist?
Speaker B:Are they just walking the streets or.
Speaker D:Around like, hey.
Speaker C:Book about Marxism.
Speaker B:Local communist here.
Speaker A:So we were, we were just working, right?
Speaker A:And then we were talking about how like, we wanted to try to like have more conversations about politics.
Speaker A:And so he asked me, he was like, so do you.
Speaker B:This is on the pod.
Speaker A:Your pod, Another podcast.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay, okay.
Speaker A:And he was like, well, do you like, do you know a lot about California's politics?
Speaker A:And I was like, to be honest, I really don't keep up a lot with California politics, but I do keep up with politics like on a federal level.
Speaker A:And so then he had made like a little comment prior.
Speaker A:Like, he like looked at me like, I know where you align, right?
Speaker A:And so then he was like, he asked me straight up.
Speaker A:He was like, so what Are you.
Speaker A:You're like a Republican, Democrat.
Speaker A:Like, what are you?
Speaker A:I was like, honestly, I would consider myself, like, a centrist.
Speaker A:You know, I could see.
Speaker A:I could see both sides.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:I would say that if someone were to ask me, like, what are your core values?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:How I raise my kids.
Speaker A:Kids.
Speaker A:You know, how my approach to life, someone would probably consider me more conservative, right?
Speaker A:But then I am very liberal in the sense that, like, my faith really makes me believe that I have an obligation through.
Speaker A:In Christ to look out for my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So, yeah, I'm in the middle.
Speaker A:And then he was straight up, like, well, I'm a communist.
Speaker A:And I was like, hold on.
Speaker A:We're not just gonna skip over this shit.
Speaker A:I said, wait.
Speaker A:And so, yeah, we had a wonderful conversation, and he was so intelligent, and he really just broke down.
Speaker A:You know what got him to align with that and his thought process behind it?
Speaker A:Sorry, my tummy's rumbling.
Speaker A:Can you guys hear it?
Speaker D:I was wondering if that was him or what?
Speaker A:Someone hungry?
Speaker A:I'm on a calorie cut, guys.
Speaker A:Fuck.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it was an amazing conversation, and it was just.
Speaker A:It was so refreshing to be able to talk to somebody who was so passionate about their beliefs, and I'm equally as passionate about mine, right?
Speaker B:You just had to respect him like that.
Speaker A:Well, we're bouncing ideas off of each other, right?
Speaker A:And, like, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm curious and I'm asking questions, and he's like, really just intelligently breaking down why he has his viewpoint.
Speaker A:And it just.
Speaker A:It was one of those moments where I was like, this is what being human is about.
Speaker A:We totally do not.
Speaker A:Like, we.
Speaker A:We are totally different spectrum.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, but you were able to.
Speaker A:My stomach growling.
Speaker C:Up.
Speaker A:Y' all had a year or two now.
Speaker B:I do need that Taco Bell, actually.
Speaker A:I had cottage cheese and applesauce earlier, so I don't gotta take a.
Speaker A:I don't gotta take a.
Speaker A:Like, my stomach's adjusted, but.
Speaker A:But I think it's the calorie deficit.
Speaker D:So just hug her.
Speaker C:I promise.
Speaker D:I promise is.
Speaker A:I'm not about to have an accident on the podcast.
Speaker D:I'll be good.
Speaker A:But, yeah, so that's how that came out.
Speaker B:You need a Snickers.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker B:Not you.
Speaker B:When you.
Speaker A:No, he.
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker D:That's crazy.
Speaker D:I mean, that's what's up, though, that you could, like, you acknowledge, like.
Speaker D:Yeah, like, that's what being a human being is all about.
Speaker D:Like, I mean, you live, you learn, you.
Speaker D:You hear people you hear their testimonies, you.
Speaker D:You share yours, and then you bounce ideas off each other.
Speaker D:And it kind of.
Speaker D:It could influence you, too, to move a little bit differently, think a little bit differently.
Speaker A:Yeah, I cracked a joke.
Speaker A:I was like, damn, am I gonna be a communist after this?
Speaker A:We all just started busting up laughing, you know, but he's like, I got.
Speaker B:The paperwork right here.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was just banter.
Speaker C:Those tend to be the best conversations, the ones where you're able to even, like, respectfully disagree or respectfully, you know, just speak.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:And it could be political, but it can also be like, generational or other things.
Speaker C:Like, I had a co worker where he's a different generation than me, and we would.
Speaker A:Would.
Speaker C:He was very stern on, like, you know, you.
Speaker C:You go to work, you work your ass off.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Climb that ladder, you come home, you pay for what you have to pay, and you live in your means.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:There's no such thing as dream chasing.
Speaker C:You have your responsibilities and stuff.
Speaker C:And for him, like, us having a podcast, he'd always be like, the.
Speaker C:Are you guys doing, bro, you have a good job?
Speaker C:Like, why are you wasting your time?
Speaker C:Even, like, focus more time on your job.
Speaker C:Like, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or things of that nature he didn't understand.
Speaker C:And, like, the more conversation.
Speaker C:Conversations we'd have.
Speaker C:And, like, he would.
Speaker C:I'd be more understanding of some things he'd say, and he'd be more understanding of some things I'd say where it's like, you know, you do only have one chance to, you know, believe in yourself or try something out, and your biggest jumps are gonna be if you're working for yourself, you know?
Speaker C:And yeah, to him, he wasn't really thinking that way at the time.
Speaker B:And to me, he was, like, taking the safe route.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And to me, he would always tell me, like, you need to get.
Speaker C:Put yourself in the uncomfortable position, move out, do these things.
Speaker C:And I'd always sit there and be like.
Speaker C:Like, nah, like, I'm not ready.
Speaker C:He'd be like, you say that because you want all these ideal circumstances, but you'll figure it out.
Speaker C:And then when it came that time that I did that, I was like, he's been right the whole time.
Speaker C:Like, you make it work.
Speaker C:Like, I've been complaining, like, I need to wait to that next promotion, but it's like, I could have made it work the last.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, you just.
Speaker B:Because if you really want it, you're gonna make sure you're gonna keep it and maintain it you just ground yourself.
Speaker C:In comfort sometimes and that, you know, kind of affect you negatively.
Speaker A:And you'd be surprised how well you can adapt when you're forced to have.
Speaker D:To adapt and how much you're capable of facts.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:And sometimes you won't realize that until you have conversations with communist.
Speaker D:Don't bring it out of you snap right in.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker A:I was like, you know what?
Speaker A:At face value, this sounds nice.
Speaker C:You know, doesn't I always say at work, work, when they try to change a procedure or something before they.
Speaker C:They'll be like, no, it sounds perfect.
Speaker C:I'll be like, hey, hey, Communism and Marxism sounds great on paper.
Speaker C:When you put it into practice, it starts being pretty devilish.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:When human nature gets taken into accountability.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it was fun, though.
Speaker A:I love those conversations.
Speaker C:No, definitely, definitely.
Speaker C:And, you know, before we close it out or anything, we want to definitely get your perspective on what's next for.
Speaker C:For the souls in the platform and, you know, what can we look out for what, you know, is coming down that pipeline.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I would hope to have a lot more females on.
Speaker A:Surprisingly, it's been very hard to have females.
Speaker A:A lot of greed telling us, bro, we.
Speaker D:We've been trying.
Speaker C:We've been trying, dude.
Speaker A:Isn't it hard?
Speaker A:It's hard.
Speaker A:I don't know why I expected more females to be more of an open book, but it's actually the men that are, like, coming through with freaking.
Speaker A:The transparency.
Speaker C:No, it's.
Speaker C:It was tough.
Speaker C:The only females we were able to get were, like, my sister and some friends, girlfriends or something.
Speaker C:We have not been able to get.
Speaker C:You know, we tried for interviews and things like that, and, you know, it's.
Speaker B:Been like, local artists and stuff.
Speaker B:And I don't know if they're shy or whatever.
Speaker B:It's like, hey, we're trying to promote you, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It's a little.
Speaker A:It's a little tough, but I would like to have more females on.
Speaker A:I actually, I kind of want to take a break with interviewing, and I want to kind of open up a little bit more about what I've been going through in life.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of changes have happened behind the scenes in the last two years with, like, family and, like, like my parents getting a divorce and, like, sibling relationships, the struggles of blended families and like, you know, watching your mom go through things, how that affected me and shaped me as a woman.
Speaker A:So I think that I'm going to do a lot more, like, personal solo videos on the.
Speaker A:For the Souls.
Speaker A:But also I am a co host now for the no Paperwork podcast.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:So, you know, that's another a little bit, like, different.
Speaker A:Different element.
Speaker B:So I'll be, you know, talking female on that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Culture and just bringing that, like, feminine touch.
Speaker D:Which is cool.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So we're excited for that and just networking with a lot more people as much as I can, you know, going to more events.
Speaker A:I have a live event coming up June 21st for Men's Mental Health Month.
Speaker B:Oh, right on.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's called each One Teach One.
Speaker A:My first event hosting live.
Speaker A:So I'm a little nervous.
Speaker B:Give us the details on that.
Speaker B:We'd love to pull.
Speaker A:Yes, I would love for you guys to pull up.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's a good networking opportunity too, because I'm going to be.
Speaker A:Our panelists are four businessmen from ground up built their businesses and they're going to be talking about, like, entrepreneurial ship.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The, you know, humps they had to overcome, you know, business, really the business aspect of starting a business and maintaining and.
Speaker A:And creating longevity.
Speaker A:So it's going to be a good business opportunity.
Speaker A:A lot of other businesses will be there as well.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I have that coming up and just, you know, keeping on.
Speaker A:Keeping on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Have to.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:I'm looking forward to seeing it all, man.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:I appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker A:It was a fun conversation.
Speaker A:I like being on the other side of the mic sometime.
Speaker C:And leave.
Speaker C:Leave the audience off with one last thing, you know, what is your advice?
Speaker C:Your something to stick with them if they're, you know, chasing a dream, you know, maybe stuck in a hard place, whatever that might be.
Speaker C:What is one last thing that they.
Speaker A:I would say remain faithful.
Speaker A:Faithful.
Speaker A:Remain faithful and remain humble.
Speaker A:Look for the good in everything.
Speaker A:The silver lining in every situation.
Speaker A:I know that we go through things in life that feel like we're losing or their losses, but really it's just redirection.
Speaker A:And so when you're going through those seasons where it feels like you're losing or you feel like you just don't know the way forward or what the outcome is going to be, just know and find peace that you're just being redirected to, you know, be on the path that is called for you.
Speaker C:You still.
Speaker C:That's awesome.
Speaker A:It's amazing.
Speaker B:That was good facts.
Speaker D:Give them all your socials.
Speaker D:Tell them where they can find you, your videos, your Instagram.
Speaker A:So you can find me at.
Speaker A:For the souls podcast on Insta tik tok and YouTube personal page iciore pretty much.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Make sure to tap in.
Speaker B:She got wonderful, great content.
Speaker A:So make sure you.
Speaker D:Awesome person, super out there spreading a.
Speaker B:Good message for the youth and for young women and for anybody, too.
Speaker B:Just going through anything, you know, she's out there for y' all.
Speaker C:No, definitely.
Speaker C:And again, we thank you so much for coming.
Speaker C:We got to do this again.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm so down.
Speaker A:We can do a part two.
Speaker A:This is good.
Speaker A:This is fun.
Speaker A:Thank you, guys.
Speaker C:You know, if you guys haven't already, you know the deal, like, comment, subscribe.
Speaker D:Tell a friend to tell a friend.
Speaker C:See us next.
Speaker C:Sam.
