Ramey on Producing, Managing Artists, and Taking Risks in the Bay Area Music Scene
From college dreams and basketball ambitions to building a thriving career as a Bay Area producer, engineer, and label owner — Ramey shares his full journey on this week’s Unquestionable the Podcast.
In this episode, the hosts dive deep into Ramey’s story of transition, perseverance, and authenticity in music — from engineering for local artists to managing talents, growing his label, and embracing every lesson along the way.
🎧 In this episode, we cover:
🏀 The journey from hoop dreams to music industry reality
🎛️ Transitioning into producing, mixing, and managing artists
🎚️ The overlooked role of engineers and what really makes a record great
🌍 Travel stories, personal reflections, and how experiences shape creativity
💼 Growing a label, scaling smartly, and finding balance in leadership
🔥 The meaning behind “That’s Xpensive” and how it became his brand
🕶️ Tattoos, risk-taking, and staying true to your vision through chaos
It’s a grounded, inspiring conversation for creatives chasing their purpose — from the studio to the boardroom.
Timestamps:
00:00 — The Fantasy Football Season
02:51 — The Journey from Dreams to Reality
06:16 — Transitioning Into Music Production
16:59 — The Role of Engineers in Music Production
23:32 — Travel Aspirations and Reflections
30:50 — Growing the Label and Management Insights
36:02 — The Origin of a Producer Tag
39:44 — Discussing Tattoos and Personal Expression in Music
47:19 — Reflecting on College Life: Experiences and Lessons Learned
51:58 — Embracing Change and Taking Risks
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Transcript
It was my freshman year of college, and, like, our whole floor of our dorm decided to do fantasy football.
Speaker A:And, like, Christmas break came, right?
Speaker A:Like, winter break came, and so everyone went home and then came back.
Speaker A:But, like, the season's kind of wrapping up, and I noticed that, like, one kid didn't change his lineup for, like, a few weeks, and some players were out or something like that.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, he just doesn't care anymore.
Speaker A:So I went to him, and I was like, dude, just trade me all your best players.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And we did that, and then I ended up winning.
Speaker A:Hey, do they.
Speaker B:They didn't know at the time, did they?
Speaker C:What's up, y'?
Speaker D:All?
Speaker C:You're back with Unquestionable, the podcast.
Speaker C:You back with yours truly, boy v SIV K3.
Speaker C:We got a special guest today.
Speaker B:Raimi.
Speaker D:Thank you.
Speaker B:That was expensive, brother.
Speaker B:Thank you for coming out.
Speaker A:Hell, yeah.
Speaker A:Thank you for having me.
Speaker D:No, for real, appreciate you.
Speaker D:I'm sorry about earlier.
Speaker D:It feels like it's a weekly basis at this point.
Speaker B:I keep up, bro, but.
Speaker B:Nah, yeah, let's get started.
Speaker B:Tell the people about yourself, bro.
Speaker D:Where are you from?
Speaker D:What is it that you do, and, you know, what makes you you, brother?
Speaker A:Yeah, well, I'm from the Bay Area, San Rafael.
Speaker A:Grew up here, went to college in la.
Speaker A:Came back, you know, live in the city for a while.
Speaker A:Eventually moved back to Marin area.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I mean, I started producing, making beats for artists.
Speaker A:Kind of grew my.
Speaker A:My business into, like, managing artists and being more on the business side.
Speaker A:Started a record label, you know, so a bunch of different things.
Speaker D:No, that's dope, bro.
Speaker D:That's dope.
Speaker D:I wanted to ask you, bro, where'd you go to college?
Speaker A:I went to.
Speaker A:So I did.
Speaker A:I went to Loyola Marymount University.
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah, we went out to Fullerton, so we were.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Ye.
Speaker A:Yeah, I went there for three years, and then I came back.
Speaker A:I transferred to.
Speaker A:I finished in at usf.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:The city.
Speaker D:Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker D:What was you.
Speaker D:What was your major?
Speaker A:Business management.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker E:What years.
Speaker E:What years were you out there?
Speaker A: I was there: Speaker A:Like, 15.
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker A:So somewhere.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And when.
Speaker D:When taking business management, were you looking into representation, like, off that, or was it more of, like, were you looking into more business management from a corporate standpoint?
Speaker A:More from a corporate standpoint, yeah.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker B:Originally, what was your, like, original, I guess, scope of what you wanted to do?
Speaker A:Well, yeah, so.
Speaker A:So, like, I mean, growing up.
Speaker A:Okay, growing up is.
Speaker A:Was, like, different than eventually Being in college and being like, okay, I need to come into reality.
Speaker A:Realistic.
Speaker A:Yeah, realistically.
Speaker A:But, like, growing up, I wanted to either play in the NBA or like.
Speaker A:Or be a rapper, a singer, like some musical artist type thing, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:But no, eventually then, you know, once I got the reality check, I'm like, yeah, I'm definitely not playing in the NBA.
Speaker B:Did you high school?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Did you hoop at all in college or anything?
Speaker A:Nah, just like, okay.
Speaker A:Recreationally.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Who would I compare my game to?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker E:Shoot.
Speaker A:Harrison Barnes.
Speaker B:Oh, geez.
Speaker B:That's my guy, too, guys.
Speaker E:Not on the Kings anymore.
Speaker E:That.
Speaker B:He's a King legend.
Speaker E:He's a wordless.
Speaker D:What are you talking about, bro?
Speaker E:Yeah, okay, but he's on the.
Speaker E:He's on the spurs now, so.
Speaker B:I know my players, bro.
Speaker E:You got Fox, you got Wemby, and you got Barnes.
Speaker E:Hey, that's looking nice.
Speaker D:No, bro, but.
Speaker D:So when.
Speaker B:When would you say it hit you that, like, hoop wasn't for you or rapping wasn't for you or something?
Speaker B:Were you rapping in high school and stuff like that, or was this something you were just kind of thinking about maybe doing?
Speaker A:Yeah, the rap thing, probably that stopped probably after middle school, really.
Speaker A:But basketball, I probably realized, like, my junior year or something.
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna go to college.
Speaker A:I have to be, like.
Speaker A:With my height, I have to be a point guard.
Speaker A:I'm not, like, fast enough or, like, bouncy enough for that.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know who were the early rap influences in middle school?
Speaker B:When you were rapping, what would you say, like, was influencing your rap career?
Speaker B:Because I was the same way, bro.
Speaker B:I was, right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Middle school.
Speaker B:But I was with Lil Wayne.
Speaker B:Every Little Wayne beat, there was, like, trying to be no ceilings.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That would be my answer.
Speaker A:Lil Wayne.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker B:That's done, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So you never did rapping, like, when you were making beats?
Speaker D:No.
Speaker D:You did recently, right?
Speaker A:I. I have.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I've wrapped.
Speaker A:I've rapped recently.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Just to, like.
Speaker A:Just to, like, show myself I could, like, put out a.
Speaker A:Put out a video and, like, know how it feels.
Speaker A:Like, if I'm gonna manage artists, I need to know how it feels to take that criticism or, like, go through the process myself.
Speaker D:No, it was dope.
Speaker D:I remember you put something out.
Speaker D:I don't know how recent it was, but I remember seeing it.
Speaker D:It was like, I think, like a mic drop type.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Video or something like that, but it Was dope.
Speaker D:No.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:No, I remember, but I was trying to look into it on YouTube and stuff before the interview and stuff, but.
Speaker B:I couldn't really find many of them.
Speaker B:Like, are they still.
Speaker A:Shoot, they're out there.
Speaker D:They're.
Speaker A:They're on there for sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:I just must have missed them.
Speaker B:I was saying maybe my job, like, putting everything, like.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know if I.
Speaker D:If I just put the wrong or whatever.
Speaker A:Well, no, they're on there.
Speaker A:They're on there for sure.
Speaker E:That's dope to have some on there.
Speaker D:Do you.
Speaker B:Do you foresee yourself still, like, you still making music?
Speaker B:You got a tape in the tuck?
Speaker C:Like, what's the N. No, Strictly Beats.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:What made you feel that way?
Speaker A:Shoot.
Speaker A:I just have so much going on that it's like.
Speaker A:I mean, I would still do it if, like, someone's like, here, can you, like, hop on this song with me?
Speaker D:Like, all right, sure.
Speaker A:But to.
Speaker A:To have it be, like, a focus of my career.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I've got so much going on that.
Speaker D:It'S like, energy's better spent elsewhere.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay, exactly.
Speaker D:That's cool.
Speaker D:And to.
Speaker D:To kind of get into it.
Speaker D:Obviously talked about you rapping early on, but, like, tell us a little bit about how you got into production and management.
Speaker A:Yeah, so my younger brother, actually, he was making beats and posting them on YouTube when we were in middle school, and eventually, you know, he was.
Speaker A:He started doing really well, and he.
Speaker A:He dropped out of college because he was making a living off just posting one beat a week on YouTube.
Speaker A:And so eventually I was like, damn, like, I. I have time to make one beat a week.
Speaker A:You know, like, if he's.
Speaker A:He's making all this money, like, I've got time to do this.
Speaker A:And so I, like, learned how to make beats.
Speaker A:And the YouTube thing never, like, worked out for me, but I was fortunate to go to high school with Lily and Lil Pete's cousin.
Speaker A:We were good friends in high school and.
Speaker A:And after.
Speaker A:And still are.
Speaker A:And so he.
Speaker A:He introduced me to them, and eventually we started working, and I did a lot of records with E over the years.
Speaker A:But, yeah, so he was, like, the first artist that hopped on any of my beats, really.
Speaker A:And so I was kind of.
Speaker E:I was.
Speaker A:Was kind of lucky to have that connection.
Speaker D:Okay, that's dope.
Speaker D:What would you say the.
Speaker D:Some of the first tracks are for the people who might not know, what are some of the first, like, notable tracks you.
Speaker D:You worked on with Pete and you.
Speaker A:So the First?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, my first two songs that came out were Chi Ali or Dear Chi by By Ye and then song called Shining by Lil Pete and Tech.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:Those are like the first.
Speaker A:My first two, like, you know, solidified songs that.
Speaker A:That actually came out.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker E:Is there anything that.
Speaker E:Anything that you kind of.
Speaker E:Well, not to display anything that is gonna, you know, put anything information wise, but I'll say any, like, you know, people you're working with right now, you got some projects that you're working with, anybody in the tuck, or anything special you want you would like to disclose, but not giving too much information because I know that certain people are like, yeah, we got some stuff coming up, but I can't really speak about it right now.
Speaker E:But anything like to disclose or.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's nothing I can't speak about.
Speaker A:I mean, we're.
Speaker A:I'm working on Lil Chic's deluxe of his recent album Faith that just came out.
Speaker A:We should be wrapping it up, like this week.
Speaker A:We just have like one more song to.
Speaker A:To mix, really.
Speaker A:So working on that.
Speaker A:We're gonna put that out soon.
Speaker A:I've been working with Yi a lot on.
Speaker A:On his next tape.
Speaker A:I'm not sure when that's gonna drop, but the music is sounding fire for sure.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Hell yeah.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker E:These guys are big fans.
Speaker E:I mean, I.
Speaker E:With Louie, I love Billy and like that, but we're looking forward to the next tape.
Speaker E:I know it's gonna be far, especially with just the tragic, you know, incident that happened with the guy and now he's bouncing back just like nothing happened.
Speaker E:That is insane, man.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you.
Speaker E:You obviously close as hell to him.
Speaker E:I kind of wanted to.
Speaker E:Not silly.
Speaker E:Like, it's.
Speaker E:It's, you know, crazy to work with these artists and they go through all these crazy things.
Speaker E:What's it like, you just being on the other side of, you know, just engineering, mixing, mastering, just kind of knowing that that stuff's kind of going in the back of my mind.
Speaker E:Do you kind of really, like.
Speaker E:Does it like get to you or you just kind of do your job or.
Speaker E:And stuff like that?
Speaker E:Because I know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker E:People have personal connections with them.
Speaker E:Like you're close with the family and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, it's.
Speaker A:It's something that, like, definitely at first, like when I was first starting to work with artists, you know, it's like that lifestyle and stuff is new to me.
Speaker A:Yeah, obviously.
Speaker A:I mean, I've been around it kind of, but like, to be, you know, first, firsthand seeing certain things or being around certain things.
Speaker A:Allegedly, it was different, but, you know, it kind of came to a point where I have to accept that, like, if I want to do this music stuff, if I want to take it seriously and take it far, I have to take certain risks.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I have to.
Speaker A:There's just certain things I can't avoid.
Speaker A:And so it's either.
Speaker A:It's either, you know, I play it safe and be super safe and do something else or whatever, or, like, I follow what I'm passionate about and take certain risks.
Speaker A:So it's kind of.
Speaker A:At this point, it's like I just have to accept it for what it is, be as safe as I can be, and.
Speaker A:But at the end of the day, it's like, I'd rather.
Speaker A:I'd rather risk.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'd rather risk my safety or my health or something and be able to do what I want to do.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:With my life, then.
Speaker A:Yeah, I got you.
Speaker E:Yeah, I do.
Speaker E:I do want to ask because, you know, we.
Speaker E:We do hear all these experiences and just, you know, studio sessions, especially with crazy artists, crazy people.
Speaker E:I kind of wanted to get, like, your insight, like, what's, like, some of the most.
Speaker E:At least from what.
Speaker E:Like, what you can't disclose.
Speaker B:Not saying any names or anything.
Speaker E:What's kind of been, like, you know, crazy, crazy experience that you're just like, what the.
Speaker E:Is going on in my studio right now, bro?
Speaker E:Like, I just kind of wanted to ask that question, like, some of the craziest that you've seen to, like, to your point in your career right now.
Speaker E:What is this?
Speaker E:Some stuff that you can disclose as far as, like, the crazy that you have been on the studio.
Speaker E:Because this is the way we chop it up.
Speaker E:Like, we're chopping up.
Speaker E:Like, we're all bros and here.
Speaker E:That's why I want to know what's.
Speaker E:What be going on?
Speaker E:Your studio, bro?
Speaker D:Like, what.
Speaker E:What be going on, bro?
Speaker E:Let us.
Speaker E:Let us on the inside scoop.
Speaker E:Whatever you can tell us, man.
Speaker A:There's so.
Speaker A:There's so much too much.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's so much that I'm sure.
Speaker A:And, like, I'm probably so numb to a lot of stuff now that.
Speaker A:That I might not.
Speaker A:I might not even, like, store that in my.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Memory, you know?
Speaker E:But normal Friday night.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I don't know.
Speaker A:I work with so many people, so I could be talking about anyone here, but I've seen, like, fights happen.
Speaker A:I've seen, like, you know, sometimes it.
Speaker A:Because, you know, some studios will have multiple rooms.
Speaker A:Multiple rooms.
Speaker A:And the Whoever the studio manager is or whatever isn't always present up to.
Speaker A:Or up to date on who's.
Speaker E:Who's.
Speaker E:Who's.
Speaker D:Who's who, who's not.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker E:So.
Speaker A:So sometimes there'll be like a week weird situation where people, you know, who are clicked up with certain people and they're not, and then it's all awkward.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's tension or something or, you know, I don't know.
Speaker A:All types.
Speaker A:All types of stuff.
Speaker E:Yes.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker D:Not to even talk specifics, in a sense.
Speaker D:Yeah, those type of things.
Speaker D:In a sense.
Speaker D:I. I know you said obviously it doesn't outweigh your passion for what it is, but does it ever put you in situations, I guess, where you.
Speaker D:Because we have.
Speaker D:We've had plenty of episodes where.
Speaker D:Where it's people who work in the music industry and they say that there are certain situations like these that make.
Speaker B:Them really question what they do.
Speaker B:Like, is this worth it?
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Do you have situations like that or is it always.
Speaker D:Nah, those moments where you're just like, you know, certain.
Speaker A:No, I.
Speaker A:Like, honestly, I'd rather die doing this than do anything else.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, like.
Speaker D:And that's how you know you're doing the right thing.
Speaker D:Because, you know, if you love what you do, you don't work a day.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker D:So, yeah, that's dope to hear for sure.
Speaker D:For sure.
Speaker D:And how.
Speaker D:I guess, how did you get from production, in a sense, how did you get into engineering and things of that nature?
Speaker D:Was that kind of like a.
Speaker D:Just, all right, I'm already working on their beast.
Speaker D:Let me just start tracking them out.
Speaker D:And then that turned to learning some plugins and things of that nature.
Speaker D:Or was it something where you were learning to produce?
Speaker D:You were just like, complementary skills?
Speaker D:I need to.
Speaker D:Need to know both.
Speaker A:Yeah, kind of both.
Speaker A:I mean, I. I realized early on when I first started making beats that, like, it's going to be easier to have an artist use them if I.
Speaker A:If I can record them too, you know, like, if they're gonna come to me to record, it's gonna be really easy for me to play them my beats and show them my beats because, like, firsthand in person, you know, So I was like, all right, I gotta at least learn how to record.
Speaker A:And so for like a few years, I was just recording off at FL Studio, like, not even using pro tools or anything.
Speaker A:And I had, like, just a kind of a makeshift studio in my house at the time, and I was just Recording all types, all artists from around the Bay Area.
Speaker A:And just so I realized being able to engineer also was just easier to get my beats placed.
Speaker A:And I eventually learned how to mix and master and.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, having those other complimentary skills makes it a lot easier to.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:For the business side to use your.
Speaker A:Your get your beats placed and.
Speaker D:Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker D:That's dope.
Speaker C:What were the first equipment that you use, you know, for those.
Speaker C:Start trying to get started on producing.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, what were you using?
Speaker E:You said fl.
Speaker E:Like, what do you use now?
Speaker A:Pro Tools now.
Speaker A:Pro Tools now.
Speaker A:Yeah, but like, yeah, the very first equipment, like the classic Focus.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Scarlet, you know that red box.
Speaker D:Yeah, 2i2 or whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, one of those.
Speaker A:And you know, like a.
Speaker A:Like a 80 microphone.
Speaker A:Like audio Technica microphone.
Speaker B:See, I had the.
Speaker B: At: Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which, honestly, for the price, a great microphone.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Super solid.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, Just the basic.
Speaker A:Yeah, the starter pack.
Speaker A:Just the basic and that.
Speaker A:And honestly, that's all you really need.
Speaker A:Like all the.
Speaker A:All the super expensive gear and stuff.
Speaker A:Like, it helps you get.
Speaker A:It helps you get a better starting point for sure with your recordings, but it's not absolutely necessary.
Speaker D:It saves time and bounce, realistically.
Speaker A:Saves time.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And people look at it like, oh, I need the new or I need this.
Speaker B:Realistically, it's like, bro, you could probably even take A, you know, SM58 or some, like, performance microphone and still get something that's usable for.
Speaker D:For a good engineer, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:So definitely.
Speaker D:No, that's dope.
Speaker D:Do you have, like, as you've gotten more into it, do you have more of a preference on.
Speaker B:On the other, like, have you grown.
Speaker D:A love for engineering in a sense, or are you still, like, production's my baby?
Speaker A:Honestly, at this point, I think.
Speaker A:I think I like mixing and mastering just as much as I like producing.
Speaker D:That's dope.
Speaker A:As far as, like, actually recording someone.
Speaker A:I don't even take sessions anymore unless I care about the artist's music.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, like, if I'm not really personally working with the artist or they're not signed to my label or anything, like, I'm not really interested in being a recording and sitting there and recording.
Speaker D:Like, because you're not just an engineer at that point, you're almost like, executive producing and, like, helping.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Take that record to that next level in a sense.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I got to care about the song to, like, want to record you.
Speaker D:Exactly.
Speaker D:You know, and we Were talking about that with.
Speaker D:We had Louis Valentino recently.
Speaker D:We were talking about that.
Speaker D:Tough about just, you know, engineers don't.
Speaker B:Get enough credit, bro.
Speaker D:They're.
Speaker B:They are the saving grace to a.
Speaker D:Lot of these records.
Speaker D:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker D:And I don't think it's.
Speaker D:I guess, talked about it enough.
Speaker D:I kind of want to hear your thoughts on.
Speaker A:On that.
Speaker D:The role that.
Speaker D:That play that the producer and engineer.
Speaker B:Played to the song.
Speaker D:Because obviously we always hear about the artist, but, you know, we don't really hear the other perspective.
Speaker A:Honestly, these days, the engineer takes on a little bit more of the traditional, traditional producer role than what we call producers today.
Speaker A:Because today producers are most of the time really just beat me.
Speaker A:They just make the beat.
Speaker A:You know, they're not really taking the song from A to B.
Speaker D:Producing the whole record.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker D:Stacking harmonies, doing the whole thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, so.
Speaker A:So a lot of engineers kind of sort of play that role, at least in the creation process of the song.
Speaker A:They're helping the artists.
Speaker A:They're guiding the artist a little bit.
Speaker A:So, I mean, they're.
Speaker A:They're every.
Speaker A:I mean, everyone's important.
Speaker A:Everyone plays a role in creating the song.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I think engineers definitely deserve more credit.
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker B:I mean, it's just something we talk about a lot because I.
Speaker D:Obviously this is saving grace to a record for a lot of.
Speaker D:I mean, you think about it, a.
Speaker B:Good mix could make a break a song.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:The mix makes or breaks the song more than.
Speaker D:I mean, this could be an unpopular.
Speaker B:Opinion, but more than the lyrics, more than the beat, in my opinion, the mix could make or break the song, because if it's a trash mix, I'm turning it off.
Speaker B:Like, you're not even getting the first.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Lyrics out of me.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:So I even think the B2 kind of comes more into play than the lyrics, too.
Speaker C:Because if the B ain't all that, no one really wants to hear what you have to say, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But then again, it is collaborative effort.
Speaker D:Everybody, like you said, everybody plays the necessary part to.
Speaker D:To drive the record home.
Speaker D:It's just unfortunate that there's sometimes a different.
Speaker D:I guess there's a displacement of credit.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker D:For sure.
Speaker D:When you.
Speaker D:When you think of those type of things.
Speaker D:Yeah, but no, like to get outside.
Speaker B:Of the music a little bit.
Speaker B:Remy, bro, I want to hear a.
Speaker D:Little bit just more about you and yourself, bro.
Speaker D:Like, we heard that you obviously hooped growing up and things of that Nature, like, what is it that.
Speaker D:That makes you.
Speaker D:You bro?
Speaker D:Like, outside of the music, what is it that you do on your off time?
Speaker D:Are you still.
Speaker D:Are you a big hoop fan?
Speaker D:Like what, you know, what consumes your time?
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker E:What you like to do.
Speaker A:But I'm still a hoop fan for sure.
Speaker A:I watch.
Speaker A:I'm a big warriors fan.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:I grew up a Warriors fan, like, even when they sucked.
Speaker A:So you can't call me a bandwagon.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:But honestly, like 98% of my time is spent on being in the studio, working, working with, you know, my artists and stuff like that.
Speaker A:And it's like, it's what I love to do.
Speaker A:So it's like, you know, I'm getting my.
Speaker A:What do you call it, like, recreation time at the same time I'm doing my work, you know, for a lot of it.
Speaker A:At least half of the.
Speaker A:Half of it, yeah.
Speaker E:That's your outlet?
Speaker E:Pretty much.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:It's fulfilling in like multiple ways.
Speaker B:Almost like executively.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Professionally and everything.
Speaker D:In a sense.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But so I don't.
Speaker A:I don't really do too much else, really.
Speaker A:I mean, I travel sometimes.
Speaker A:You know, I like to get.
Speaker A:I like to get out of the, you know, get out of California and just go other places sometimes a little quick little break.
Speaker D:Do you have a go to spot?
Speaker B:You have a favorite spot?
Speaker A:Scottsdale, Arizona.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, we went to Scottsdale recently.
Speaker B:It was lit, bro.
Speaker A:Dude, I don't know what's in the water over there, but yeah, they're partying, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It's one thing I will say, bro, this might be unpopular opinion.
Speaker B:The only thing I don't like is.
Speaker D:Like the, the section culture.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, we went out to so.
Speaker D:Many different bars and bro, if you're not in this section, it's not that fun.
Speaker D:And granted, it's like we were out for like a birthday event type thing.
Speaker D:It's like they were trying to hit.
Speaker B:Three to four different bars.
Speaker E:We.
Speaker B:We ain't getting sections at three, four different bars.
Speaker B:So it's just like you get to a place that you just can't move.
Speaker B:You can't really get a dream.
Speaker B:You can't do nothing.
Speaker B:You got the same, you know, three Division 1 Arizona basketball players, like looking down from these sections.
Speaker A:That's true, that's true.
Speaker B:God, bro.
Speaker B:Like, that's the one thing I will say.
Speaker B:It was a great time.
Speaker B:I had a great time.
Speaker B:But it was very like, you know, for sure compared to like, you know, out here or Sacramento, other places where, I mean, they have sections, but it's not as.
Speaker A:It's not necessary to.
Speaker D:To.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, you don't have to get a section to have a good time at a lot of these parties where it's like.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker E:Is there any spots that you other.
Speaker E:Other than Arizona, that you've been to and that you with anything specific?
Speaker A:Man, Mexico is always fun.
Speaker A:I've been to Mexico a bunch about atl.
Speaker E:You been atl?
Speaker A:Nah, that's still somewhere I need to go, bro.
Speaker B:I need to go out there too.
Speaker E:I've never been.
Speaker E:I just know that a lot of people at least work, work with artists and stuff.
Speaker E:Somehow they're connected with some person.
Speaker E:I was an ATL or Miami, this new.
Speaker E:All that crazy, you know, metropolitan areas.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's becoming damn near like the little.
Speaker B:The little media run.
Speaker B:If you're not going to New York, you'll go to atl.
Speaker B:Yeah, do your little mic drop.
Speaker B:Do you love the point?
Speaker B:Do everything you got to do and get back home?
Speaker A:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker B:So I definitely, I definitely want to.
Speaker D:Go out there just to see everything.
Speaker D:And like, I mean we.
Speaker B:We stopped out there for like what, 15 minutes, 30 minutes it felt like.
Speaker D:And then we had to.
Speaker A:What, like a layover?
Speaker D:Yeah, we had a layover out there.
Speaker D:So we couldn't even really leave.
Speaker D:Like I think we looked like.
Speaker B:Looked outside or went outside for a little bit, like 30 minutes, bro.
Speaker B:But we here.
Speaker B:Yeah, like I said, bro, we went right to the Bahamas from there or something, so.
Speaker C:Oh, that long ago?
Speaker B:Yeah, it was a while ago, but I always wanted to go, go cuz it looked sick.
Speaker B:We were flying in.
Speaker B:I was like, damn.
Speaker C:They the Georgia airport or.
Speaker B:Yeah, they're like suburban area.
Speaker B:Looked kind of crazy.
Speaker B:I'm not going to lie.
Speaker C:I've been to that airport too.
Speaker E:Our friend seen Cole J. Cole out there.
Speaker C:Oh, that's right.
Speaker E:Boarded onto another flight.
Speaker E:People like that J. Cole, he's wearing a hoodie and trying to be all.
Speaker D:Mischievous and yeah, he was going to like Johannesburg, South Africa.
Speaker E:Oh yeah, you see he's on a train.
Speaker E:You can see.
Speaker D:Cuz his whole gang, like all the producers and everything had their.
Speaker B:And we're all held back, had to wait till they could board.
Speaker B:But bro was already on the flight.
Speaker B:I was like, sick work.
Speaker B:They couldn't get the whole team on.
Speaker C:You ever like a destination you like, you're working for to get to like, you know, a travel spot you're trying to hit?
Speaker A:I've always want to go to Asia for Sure.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker C:Like what part or just Asia in general?
Speaker A:Just Asia in general.
Speaker A:Just all around there.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Thailand, Indonesia.
Speaker D:Okay, okay.
Speaker D:Office, South Korea, you know, my co worker just went to Thailand, bro.
Speaker D:And the spot they got was some crazy like white lotus looking like some.
Speaker B:Wild like TV looking.
Speaker D:And she was telling me the price and everything.
Speaker B:I'm just like, you could never out here like you know, but Thailand, like that is possible.
Speaker B:I hella want to go out there and then I want to go to Japan.
Speaker D:Tough to just.
Speaker A:Yeah, Japan shopping and do that the.
Speaker D:Whole nine cuz it's like bro, even camera.
Speaker B:You go to Japan, you could get.
Speaker D:Some of these cameras, bro.
Speaker D:40, 50% chance you get it out here.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh yeah, Sony's out there.
Speaker D:I need to.
Speaker D:Need to make my way out there.
Speaker D:But no outside of, outside of traveling.
Speaker D:Outside of who, bro?
Speaker D:A little bit about yourself, bro.
Speaker D:Like what is it?
Speaker D:Obviously we talked about work and how it takes the majority of your time.
Speaker D:What is it that you do often times to kind of recenter yourself or to get time away from that when you need that, man.
Speaker A:I mean to be honest, like when I take time away from it, I feel like, I feel like I get antsy like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like I'm a workaholic, I guess.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So I, I'll feel like, dang, I'm not doing enough.
Speaker A:Like I'm.
Speaker A:I could be advancing more right now, but I'm taking a break.
Speaker C:Yeah, I feel that, I feel that.
Speaker A:But yeah, shoot.
Speaker A:So I can't for the most part.
Speaker C:These trips are your time to get away.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:When I take a trip then.
Speaker A:All right, that's cut.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's my time.
Speaker D:So I guess taking some time off.
Speaker A:See a little time off.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it's like, I don't know, I. I enjoy what I do.
Speaker A:So I never really feel like, dang, I need a break.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's good then.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker E:Hell yeah.
Speaker D:And it's honest, honestly a question.
Speaker D:I ask a lot, bro.
Speaker D:But you hear like they'll tell you.
Speaker D:You hear so many different responses.
Speaker D:Some people obviously need that step away to get out of their mind and some people just embrace it like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Kind of is their step aways kind of going into just going all in.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Going into the thought process and just kind of that world you create.
Speaker D:Create creatively in a sense, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Everyone's got their own.
Speaker A:Especially our all artists kind of have their own agenda process with what makes them creative and how they, you know.
Speaker C:Well, yeah, you said you went to bed at 4:30 this morning.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker D:I mean, is it gonna be another long night tonight?
Speaker D:You got sessions after this?
Speaker D:Are you taking it easy after this?
Speaker A:Yeah, no, I'm gonna take it easy after because I have some sessions tomorrow.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:But I mean, yeah, that's, that's like a normal night though before going to bed at like 4:30 or something.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:So are you, when are you starting?
Speaker A:Like, depends on the day.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker A:Yeah, really depends on the day.
Speaker A:But like most, I feel like most rappers like their sessions will be like 8pm Till morning, 2 to 2 or 4am Something like that.
Speaker D:Yeah, no, but looking forward obviously I know there's going to be some stuff you, you might not want to disclose, but looking forward, what are the plans for.
Speaker D:That's expensive and for, you know, your management side, your label side and just what are you looking to get into moving forward?
Speaker A:I mean, I really want to, I really want to continue to grow the label, you know, just become, become more recognized, expand across the country more.
Speaker A:Because right now we, you know, we've got our, our main offices in Corta Madera and recording studio and then we also have recording studios in Los Angeles.
Speaker A:So it'd be good to you know, expand, maybe have a location on the east coast where we can have artists come and collaborate and so.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean really, really growing the.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:You go to the East Coast a lot or.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker C:Have you been though?
Speaker A:I've been, yeah.
Speaker C:For like.
Speaker D:For work?
Speaker A:No, just for work.
Speaker C:Vacation type of thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, like exactly.
Speaker C:Right on.
Speaker C:Hell yeah.
Speaker E:We're at.
Speaker E:In the east coast, like New York.
Speaker A:New York and Miami.
Speaker A:I don't think I've really.
Speaker A:I went to Cleveland once, which was random.
Speaker D:Which was your favorite?
Speaker D:I've been in Miami.
Speaker B:I haven't been to New York.
Speaker A:Probably Miami.
Speaker A:I like the weather a little more.
Speaker A:Yeah, I like the like warm weather.
Speaker D:New York's fun.
Speaker C:What time weather did you go in New York?
Speaker A:I've been there in both the, the winter and the summer.
Speaker E:Oh, okay.
Speaker C:It gets hot in New York for sure.
Speaker C:Surprisingly it gets stupid hot.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:You've been to Booby Trap?
Speaker B:No, I took him to Booby Trap on the river.
Speaker B:Yeah, he has.
Speaker B:He's wanted to go back to Miami since.
Speaker C:You don't know what it is.
Speaker B:It's a strip club.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:On the river.
Speaker E:Yeah, bro, you gotta go.
Speaker E:You gotta pull up one of the artists or some so you know it's gonna be a good time by yourself.
Speaker B:It was funny.
Speaker B:So when we were going.
Speaker B:We were about to be going, cuz.
Speaker D:We were going for my girl's friend's birthday.
Speaker B:I played the For Me remix by Brent F in lotion Me and it shot at Booby Trap.
Speaker B:So I was showing him.
Speaker B:I'm like, bro, this is where we're gonna go.
Speaker B:Like just with him, you know.
Speaker B:And every night, I swear to God, Kev's like, take me to Booby Trap.
Speaker B:Like, I was ready to.
Speaker E:The funny thing was we went 4th of July weekend.
Speaker E:And like, I didn't.
Speaker E:I didn't understand why the.
Speaker E:We didn't go on 4th, like 4th of July night, like, or that Saturday.
Speaker B:But we went.
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker E:I know we probably would have got in because it's expensive and packed and.
Speaker E:But we went on like on a Monday night, Monday or something like that.
Speaker E:It was still lit.
Speaker E:It was still happening, like 4am too.
Speaker B:We went to space.
Speaker B:We went after.
Speaker B:We went like, yeah, we're out all night.
Speaker E:Oh my God.
Speaker D:Half.
Speaker B:Half the group went back to the Airbnb and then he took my girl's little brother and his girl and us and we went out and it was just like.
Speaker A:So the sun was up.
Speaker B:Yeah, we got home at like 8am and bro, I tell you, I'll tell you what, they played Somebody loves You, like every three minutes from the top of my life.
Speaker C:That's funny.
Speaker B:It was hilarious, bro.
Speaker C:I love that.
Speaker E:If you ever get the chance, bro, go to Booby Trap.
Speaker A:Booby Trap.
Speaker D:All right.
Speaker D:I don't remember that.
Speaker D:No.
Speaker B:Miami is a great time, though, I would say great food, great nightlife experience.
Speaker B:If you like to go out, like.
Speaker D:You could have a good time out in Miami.
Speaker D:And even surprisingly like the boats and like that, I guess they're still expensive compared to like Mexico or something.
Speaker D:It's not like nothing super duper, duper crazy, I guess, if you go to the right one.
Speaker E:So you got a girl?
Speaker E:I'm say, if you got a girl.
Speaker E:I don't know how crazy.
Speaker E:You can go, no, I don't.
Speaker E:I don't.
Speaker B:Then you good.
Speaker E:Then you going to have a blast.
Speaker E:Then have time, man.
Speaker B:He's like, go to booby trap every night.
Speaker B:Nah, bro.
Speaker D:But n. Honestly, you know, going a little further into, you know, just working and just management, everything you're dealing with, do you have anything like, obviously we talked about growing the label, but on the management side, do we have anything in the works?
Speaker D:Are you.
Speaker D:Are you looking for new artists?
Speaker D:Are you looking to grow that side as well?
Speaker D:Or is that kind of come with the label growth.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:I'm not really looking to.
Speaker A:To grow it.
Speaker A:I mean, every artist that I've managed in my career has come to me asking me to manage them.
Speaker D:It's been like a personal relationship type.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, they came to me.
Speaker A:I. I never really was like, let me manage you.
Speaker A:Let me manage you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, I mean, there was a.
Speaker A:There was a point in time where I was like, all right, I'm done managing artists.
Speaker A:I'm just focusing on the label.
Speaker A:And then more artists convinced me to manage them.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:But, I mean, there's some.
Speaker A:There's some artists that have reached out to me recently, but we'll see.
Speaker A:I like the two that you manage right now.
Speaker C:Is that like a handful or is that like, you know, like, is it easy?
Speaker A:No, it's not.
Speaker A:It's not a handful.
Speaker E:It's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's good.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, could you handle more, like, personally, like, you know, under your own wing like that, or.
Speaker A:Yeah, I could probably.
Speaker A:I could probably handle, like, two more.
Speaker A:And, you know, you always want to make sure you have enough time to dedicate to each.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, so you do a good job with each person.
Speaker A:Yeah, you could manage, like, 10 artists, but, like, are you really going to do your best job?
Speaker D:And then your attention span kind of gets split in different ways based off.
Speaker B:Of necessity, and then it looks like favoritism, but.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:It comes down to necessity.
Speaker B:But yeah, then they don't see it that way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, maybe if, like, I started getting, like, assistant managers and stuff to help me, but at that point, I just feel like it's just focus on the label, really.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And with the label growth, what is.
Speaker D:What does that look like to you?
Speaker D:Are you adding?
Speaker D:Are you looking for an rs?
Speaker D:Are you looking for growth on the team side?
Speaker D:Or is that more of on the roster side?
Speaker D:Or is it.
Speaker D:What.
Speaker D:What.
Speaker D:What are the.
Speaker D:I guess.
Speaker D:Yeah, this 20, 26.
Speaker D:Going into it.
Speaker D:What are the.
Speaker D:What, I guess is the vision.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, both really.
Speaker A:They kind of come hand in hand.
Speaker A:I mean, recently we hired.
Speaker A:Hey, Taewan as our dope.
Speaker D:He's dope.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Our A R manager in Los Angeles.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:At the studio over there.
Speaker A:And then, you know, we have interns, we have engineers at both locations.
Speaker A:We have a team that does our royalty registration and processing.
Speaker A:But yeah, I mean, at this point, it's really just.
Speaker A:Just adding more people on that need help, you know, need help collecting their royalties, need help putting out their music.
Speaker A:And, you know, Growing their.
Speaker A:Their brand and stuff like that.
Speaker A:But I think the important thing is, like, not growing too fast to where, like, I was kind of talking with the management thing, where we're not able to give each person, you know, the.
Speaker A:The attention they need on with their career.
Speaker D:Like a controlled expansion.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like scaling it smartly.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:In a smart way.
Speaker A:You know, which is.
Speaker A:It's hard.
Speaker A:Hard to do it correctly sometimes.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:No, and oftentimes people only look at that, like in manufacturing standpoint or from, like, a certain type of business industry.
Speaker D:But realistically, it goes the same way.
Speaker D:Even in creative industries, you know, people.
Speaker B:Bite off too much more than they can.
Speaker B:Yeah, sometimes.
Speaker D:And then they.
Speaker B:And you look at.
Speaker B:You see, with videographers and people, more than anything, I feel like where they have, you know, 30 projects they're working on at once, and then.
Speaker A:But that's the pro.
Speaker A:See?
Speaker A:All right, I could talk about this.
Speaker A:That's the problem with.
Speaker A:With the videographers who make music videos because the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The norm is that they get all their money up front.
Speaker A:So let's say they charge a thousand for a video or 500, whatever the amount is.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:You pay them.
Speaker A:So they show up and they shoot the video.
Speaker A:But now they have no incentive to get it done.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because they already got all their money.
Speaker A:Maybe some videographers, like, sometimes will be okay, half up front, half up, half when I finish.
Speaker A:Or like, you know, if you're a big label, so you have the leverage of being, like, paying them in 30 days, like net 30 or something.
Speaker A:But a lot of.
Speaker A:A lot of videographers, what that ends up happening is because they get their money up front, they go and they shoot 30 videos.
Speaker A:But now they have 30 videos to edit.
Speaker A:And now everyone's getting mad at them because they're like, where's my video?
Speaker A:Like, you've been taking forever.
Speaker B:And they got 30 more scheduled next week, so they don't even got the time to edit.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's like, like, dang, that's.
Speaker A:That happens a lot.
Speaker D:No.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you see it with creative.
Speaker B:I think you see with creative hustles a lot more than other things because you have to see the physical, like, expansion.
Speaker B:So, like, with manufacturing or construction or other things, you're like.
Speaker B:You see that you have to kind of piece it out the correct way.
Speaker B:But sometimes creatively, we're like, oh, no, we can take it on.
Speaker B:I can take it on.
Speaker B:And then it's like, oh, yeah, you.
Speaker D:Know, and sometimes it's too late to bite Off.
Speaker D:I mean, we see it all the time, even with people we work with and stuff.
Speaker D:But, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker D:It's kind of one of those things.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker E:I also wanted to ask too.
Speaker E:Is there like a true.
Speaker E:Not, like true meaning, but as far as, you know, that's expensive.
Speaker E:Like, you know, everybody kind of has, like, you know, their mission statement.
Speaker E:You know, what.
Speaker E:What it means.
Speaker E:Like, what.
Speaker E:What's the.
Speaker E:Is there a specific meaning?
Speaker E:Or you.
Speaker E:Is it a collective, like that group decision, you did it, or just the name?
Speaker A:Like, the name That's.
Speaker A:No, there's no.
Speaker A:There's no.
Speaker A:There's nothing really behind it.
Speaker A:It's just when I.
Speaker A:After I made my first beat ever, I had a dream that night.
Speaker A:I think it was like, that night I had a dream where I was in a grocery store, like a market, a corner store or something like that, and a little girl.
Speaker A:Or I was reaching for a can of soup or can of something, and a little girl yelled at me, like, raymy, that's expensive.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, about the.
Speaker A:About the can of the thing I was reaching for, you know, and I woke up.
Speaker A:Like, when I woke up, I was like, that would be funny if that was my producer tag.
Speaker A:So then I went online, found, like, a voice actress to like, make my tag.
Speaker A:Ramy.
Speaker A:That's exp.
Speaker A:Like, say it.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so that's been my tag since, like, the second beat I ever made.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then when I decided to create the label, I'm like, just call it just.
Speaker A:That's expensive.
Speaker A:Drop the Raimi.
Speaker A:Because it's not about me.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that kind of already had a brand behind it a little bit, or at least some people recognized it.
Speaker D:It was.
Speaker D:Yeah, there was something that was already.
Speaker B:Slapped across their face.
Speaker B:Like, listen to the music and.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker D:So something that was relative or you would remember.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker C:Is that the only tag you have?
Speaker A:What's that?
Speaker C:Is that the only tag you have?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, no, I had my first beat I ever made was a different one.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:That was the only time ever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:So, like, to this day, you only have Remy.
Speaker A:That's expensive.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's just been that the whole time, pretty much.
Speaker B:Do you ever think about, like, switching it up or something cutting different because, you know, like, Metro, a lot of these guys have, like, secondary third little tags or something that are still consistent.
Speaker D:But, like, not as often.
Speaker B:Have you ever thought about having a secondary tag?
Speaker A:No, not.
Speaker A:Not.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:Because, like, I know that that recognition is.
Speaker A:Is important, and I feel like maybe if I Switch it up.
Speaker A:Like, what if that beat or that song was one that blew up was.
Speaker D:The one that blew up?
Speaker B:And then you don't put them.
Speaker A:And now people can't put two and two together.
Speaker A:All these other ones they heard or something, you know?
Speaker E:So, yeah, keep it consistent.
Speaker B:Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker B:Because, like, you know, your tag is super familiar.
Speaker D:Like.
Speaker D:Yeah, super.
Speaker D:Just, like, you know, something you hear, and you're just like, oh, yeah, no dope.
Speaker D:Like, you always hear it often, in a sense.
Speaker D:So that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker D:You change it up.
Speaker D:You kind of risk that.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker D:Loss of recognition, in a sense.
Speaker A:That makes sense.
Speaker E:I see you tatted up, bro.
Speaker E:You got the full.
Speaker E:You got the double sleeves and.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker E:So you're tatted with that producer money man, man.
Speaker E:I was gonna say, how long.
Speaker E:How have you been tatted?
Speaker E:For a decent amount of time, or is it recent or.
Speaker A:Yeah, I've been.
Speaker A:I've been tatted for a while.
Speaker A:A decent amount of time.
Speaker A:But I. I definitely went, like.
Speaker A:I definitely went a little crazy.
Speaker A:A little more crazy, like, a few years ago.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker E:Where'd you get it done at?
Speaker E:Or who?
Speaker E:Or with anybody?
Speaker D:Half.
Speaker A:Probably, like, half of them in Berkeley.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:With this guy Ryan.
Speaker A:Blood money.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker A:And then half of them enrichment with Dave.
Speaker A:Dave.
Speaker A:Tattoos and named Dave.
Speaker E:That's sick.
Speaker E:No, I see the tats are dope, bro.
Speaker D:I know.
Speaker E:This was all tatted up and, too.
Speaker E:So he.
Speaker E:When's the last time you got a tattoo?
Speaker B:Oh, the back.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, the back.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker D:I got back.
Speaker C:My neck was, like, a few months ago.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker C:They get pricey, though, huh?
Speaker C:When was the last time you got a tattoo?
Speaker A:March.
Speaker A:Oh, before that, it had been a while.
Speaker A:It'd been, like, at least a year.
Speaker D:March.
Speaker C:I think I got one.
Speaker C:I think that's when I got mine, too.
Speaker D:Last.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Was it one of those things where you always knew you wanted tats, or was it, like, more as you got into music?
Speaker A:No, when I was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, when I was a kid, I'm like.
Speaker A:I'm never getting tatted.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker E:Really?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm never drinking.
Speaker A:I'm never.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker A:But, no, I got my first tattoo when I was 19, but then.
Speaker A:Yeah, Like, I didn't go crazy until, like, mid.
Speaker A:Mid 20s.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:So when you're corporate, were you still.
Speaker B:Covering them up or anything?
Speaker D:Or was this past.
Speaker A:Yeah, when I.
Speaker A:When I was corporate, it was.
Speaker A:There weren't.
Speaker A:They weren't in, like, visible places.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:So you hit the arms later on.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Once it was.
Speaker A:This is my music industry uniform.
Speaker A:You know, once I was able to.
Speaker B:Yeah, I needed that visual appeal.
Speaker B:They were respecting me enough.
Speaker B:I'm playing, bro.
Speaker B:But no, let's go back to hooping a little bit.
Speaker B:I want to hear.
Speaker D:We.
Speaker B:We've asked this before, but, bro, I need to hear your NBA top five of all time.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:LeBron.
Speaker A:LeBron James.
Speaker A:In no particular order.
Speaker D:No particular order.
Speaker A:LeBron James.
Speaker A:Michael Jordan.
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker A:I'll help you out.
Speaker A:Steph Curry.
Speaker A:Honestly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Steph Curry.
Speaker A:Wilt Chamberlain.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:Are we.
Speaker A:Are we building like a.
Speaker A:Like a.
Speaker A:Like a.
Speaker A:By position five or just.
Speaker B:No, it could just.
Speaker B:It's your personal.
Speaker B:It doesn't even have to be the best.
Speaker B:Like, they killed me because I was.
Speaker C:Saying, like, it's like your favorite five.
Speaker B:I said T. Mac, Vince Carter, Steph, Stephen.
Speaker A:Oh, favorite five or who I think are the best five.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean your top five.
Speaker B:Your favorite.
Speaker A:Oh, my favorite five.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker E:Whoever like you deem that is like your five.
Speaker E:Like, you go.
Speaker C:Those are your players you're picking every time.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker B:It doesn't have to be because my.
Speaker A:Answer would be different if I'm going to tell you my favorite five or who I think are the best five.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:You could clarify it however you want to do it.
Speaker B:But for me, I did it by my favorite five.
Speaker B:And they're killing me because I had Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady.
Speaker B:I think Stephen Francis was the one.
Speaker B:You guys made something.
Speaker B:But I just had players that excited me as a kid.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:All right, I'm gonna go.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go with favorite then.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go with favorite.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:Not necessarily who I think are the best five.
Speaker A:Steph Curry, Baron Davis.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:Man, I feel like they're all going to be warriors players.
Speaker C:That's all right.
Speaker D:Them.
Speaker B:Hey, if that's how it is.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:I can make my king stop by.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Monte Ellis.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Allen Iverson.
Speaker C:Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker E:And.
Speaker D:Better be a good one.
Speaker A:Michael Jordan.
Speaker D:Michael Jordan.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:No, that's dope.
Speaker D:Monte Ellis.
Speaker D:Were you pissed when the trade went through?
Speaker A:No, honestly, I. I, like, understood it.
Speaker D:You.
Speaker D:You did?
Speaker D:Like, you already saw the vision with stuff.
Speaker D:Because I'm gonna be honest, I did.
Speaker A:I didn't know because at that time, I didn't know.
Speaker A:We, like, nobody knew Steph was going to be like, super amazing.
Speaker D:He had like the three point contest under his belt, but it wasn't like.
Speaker A:Yeah, I Just saw, I was like, I was like, okay, like, we all right, we signed and we trade.
Speaker A:We traded and like got Andrew Bogan and like, yeah, David Lee was solid.
Speaker D:And he got Clay Thompson.
Speaker A:I think, yeah, we drafted Clay Thompson.
Speaker A:So I like, I, I feel like I like saw.
Speaker A:I was like, okay, we have like a, like a better overall team now, even if Montales was our best scorer.
Speaker A:So I like, I got, I understood.
Speaker D:It, you know, I was kind of hurt, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker D:And I'm not even a Warriors fan.
Speaker D:I mean, my brother was at the time for sure, but I've always been a Kings fan.
Speaker D:But Monte was just one of those players that excited me, like growing up, like just a dog, bro.
Speaker D:You know, he could shoot, he was a high flyer when he wanted to.
Speaker D:Like, he just played that style of ball that just excited you.
Speaker D:Like, you heard my favorite players were Vince Carter, AI, Steven Francis, like just random.
Speaker D:Tracy McGrady.
Speaker D:Just random players that were just exciting, bro.
Speaker D:Yeah, sometimes.
Speaker D:I mean, don't get me wrong, these new players are still exciting as like sga.
Speaker D:A lot of these players are exciting in their own way, but sometimes I just feel like there was something about.
Speaker A: That mid-: Speaker D:There's like a nostalgia that makes me like wish, yeah, that again.
Speaker D:And you see like flares of it, I guess.
Speaker B:Like when AE was going crazy at certain points I'd see and I was like, damn, that feels like.
Speaker B: It felt like: Speaker D:But yeah, I don't know, maybe it's just the style of ball too.
Speaker D:You know, basketball's in a different place now.
Speaker E:Yeah, basketball like your favorite sport.
Speaker E:Sport of choice or.
Speaker E:Yeah, watch football.
Speaker E:Anything else or.
Speaker A:Definitely basketball.
Speaker A:Yeah, basketball.
Speaker A:I'll watch football here and there for sure.
Speaker D:But yeah, you play Fantasy.
Speaker A:I have played it, but I don't play it like every damn.
Speaker A:Do it every season.
Speaker E:That's me.
Speaker E:I'm.
Speaker E:I'm not a big football fan, but whenever I play Fantasy, I'm like locked.
Speaker B:In this year for like the first.
Speaker D:Time and never the first time.
Speaker E:This is like my second or third year.
Speaker B:Look, he thinks like, he swears I'm gonna come from.
Speaker B:I'm like, dude, fantasy is a long season, brother.
Speaker E:You gotta just watch.
Speaker E:When I win this pot.
Speaker E:Just watching my watch.
Speaker A:Your favorite, your best player is going to get injured and then put that on him.
Speaker B:That's what happens.
Speaker B:It sucks, but it's like that's what happens.
Speaker B:You end up with like, that looks good.
Speaker B:Like Gavin's team looked great on paper.
Speaker E:But they're all injured now, so he's.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, he has nobody now, and it sucks, but.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:I remember when I was a.
Speaker A:It was my freshman year of college, and, like, our whole floor of our dorm decided to do fantasy football.
Speaker A:And, like, Christmas break came, right?
Speaker A:Like, winter break came, and so everyone went home and then came back.
Speaker A:But, like, the season's kind of wrapping up, and I noticed that, like, one kid didn't change his lineup for, like, a few weeks, and some players were out or something like that.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, he just doesn't care anymore.
Speaker A:So I went to him and I was like, dude, just trade me all your best players.
Speaker E:And.
Speaker A:And we did that, and then I ended up winning.
Speaker B:Hey, did they.
Speaker B:They didn't know at the time, did they?
Speaker A:Nah, someone.
Speaker A:Someone, like, realized.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They looked at the transactions.
Speaker A:They're like, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:This doesn't make sense.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker C:Crazy.
Speaker D:No, that's hella funny.
Speaker D:I'm.
Speaker D:I mean, I get with fantasy.
Speaker D:I always get bad luck.
Speaker D:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker D:I always get bad luck.
Speaker D:I mean, I. I'm teetering in the.
Speaker B:Mid pack right now.
Speaker D:I'm hoping it does okay, but like.
Speaker B:You said, I always get that where my best player gets hurt and I'm.
Speaker B:And I just end up picking.
Speaker B:Picking people.
Speaker B:Yeah, picking up people on waiver wire.
Speaker E:Like, this is Jamar Chase.
Speaker E:Count your days.
Speaker C:Man.
Speaker E:That guy's.
Speaker E:I mean, I get it, bro.
Speaker E:Like, Joe Burrow.
Speaker E:No, Joe Burrow, he's injured, you know, and then they have Jake Browning in as their quarterback and SAS legend.
Speaker D:Yeah, I know.
Speaker E:I didn't even know he went to Folsom.
Speaker B:Yeah, I didn't know he played against.
Speaker D:I didn't know that in, like, seven on sevens.
Speaker D:Yeah, we would.
Speaker B:When we had to go to, like.
Speaker D:Elk Grove High for the seven on sevens.
Speaker D:We played against Jake Brownie.
Speaker D:He was fire.
Speaker D:He was, bro.
Speaker B:That was the year.
Speaker D:He.
Speaker D:He had some, like, national record with touchdowns and yards and, bro, he was nice, I won't lie.
Speaker D:Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker B:One of the best high school players.
Speaker D:I ever watched in my life.
Speaker D:So, I mean, yeah, he's a backup, but he was.
Speaker D:He was fine.
Speaker E:Very sorry for whoever is a Bengals fan out there, but, hey, if you guys get it together, get it together, but throw the ball to Jamar Chase, please.
Speaker E:Please, bro.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I got T. Higgins.
Speaker B:That's just me up.
Speaker D:But, hey, just keep going, right?
Speaker B:No, but I want to hear a little bit more about your Your college experience, what was it like being at lmu?
Speaker B:Like, did you.
Speaker B:What was the social life like?
Speaker A:I didn't like it, honestly.
Speaker D:Really?
Speaker A:Yeah, I think, I mean, part of it was my fault.
Speaker A:I didn't really get involved in like, activities and stuff as much as I should have.
Speaker A:And I didn't like, leave campus that much.
Speaker A:Like explore, you know, LA and stuff like that.
Speaker A:So like, I don't know, I didn't like college.
Speaker A:I. I liked high school.
Speaker A:For some weird reason.
Speaker A:I like, I liked high school, you know, I feel like it's usually opposite for people, but college, for some reason, I just didn't.
Speaker A:I don't know, I just didn't take advantage of the, of the moment.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker D:Did you not like, find your people, find your community kind of out there, or was it just more of like.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, I definitely had.
Speaker A:I definitely had like a couple good friends.
Speaker A:But yeah, there was never anything where I was like, you know, I joined this club or did that, where it's like, okay, I have like a purpose kind of, you know, And I was never really like super academic, like good at studying and stuff like that, you know.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker D:What made you choose?
Speaker E:What made you choose?
Speaker A:Leola?
Speaker D:Fire school.
Speaker A:Shoot.
Speaker A:I really applied to like, mostly schools that were out of the Bay Area, but not too far.
Speaker D:Were they like private schools too, or were.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So like, couple school.
Speaker A:A couple schools in California, like some in like Oregon, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker A:But I chose it, I think, just because like, I was like, all right, the weather's cool, like, the campus is nice.
Speaker A:It's a good area.
Speaker A:It's close to lax.
Speaker E:Yeah, we started, we, Me and this, we started off at East Bay and it was cool, but it was just like a big ass commuter school.
Speaker D:Like people, you said, bro, like, didn't have any.
Speaker D:Like, had a couple good friends, but like, didn't really involve ourselves with anything.
Speaker D:And then.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, kind of just got stuck in it.
Speaker D:Then when we transferred over, it was a whole, like we got involved in some organizations and things and it was like a 180 experience.
Speaker D:So like, for me, I always tell kids, bro, if you're going to college, like, make the most out of the experience.
Speaker D:Go get involved in organizations.
Speaker D:Find something you kind of with.
Speaker D:Agree, agree with.
Speaker D:Or you like, or you like the people who are involved and just, you know, because that will bring you a lot of connections.
Speaker D:It'll bring you a lot of.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker D:Fun times too.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker D:Like, yeah, I remember Our first couple years, bro, we just sit at home.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, we had our friend group.
Speaker D:Because we all went to high school together, went to college together, so we had each other, but it was like.
Speaker B:We would just be sitting at the crib, bro.
Speaker B:Yes, it was.
Speaker D:Yeah, it was kind of whack, you.
Speaker B:Know, then getting actually to go to events and do different things.
Speaker A:Things.
Speaker B:It was like almost a different experience.
Speaker B:I felt.
Speaker A:Right, Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:I always, I always recommend people to, to try to get involved where they can.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker E:What about drink of choice?
Speaker E:You have.
Speaker E:Do you.
Speaker E:Do you drink or.
Speaker A:Yeah, you drink?
Speaker E:What's your like, go to like drink or alcohol or anything like that?
Speaker A:Shoot.
Speaker A:Like if I'm just gonna have a drink like with dinner, with food or something like that, like, I like either like, like an IPA or like, or like a spicy tequila type drink.
Speaker E:Nice.
Speaker A:But if it's like, all right, this is a long night, we're going out, we're partying.
Speaker E:Like.
Speaker A:Honestly, just straight to anything.
Speaker A:Anything.
Speaker A:Tequila.
Speaker D:You like tequila?
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker A:Because I don't know why whenever I. I just never.
Speaker A:I never feel like I drink in the morning when I drink only tequila.
Speaker A:I just feel like fine the next day.
Speaker A:So I don't know why I'm the opposite.
Speaker E:Tequila me up.
Speaker B:Same tequila.
Speaker B:Makes me feel like I fought Mike Tyson, bro.
Speaker C:Yeah, straight up.
Speaker B:I'm sitting there just like.
Speaker B:Like that's why we were talking about it earlier today.
Speaker B:I'm like, I'm at that point in my life where.
Speaker B:Cuz I drink a lot of cognac, Tennessee do say things like that.
Speaker B:I'm at that point where in my life where I'm not even trying to fake the funk.
Speaker B:If they don't got it, I'm not going Jameson, I'm not going Crown Royal Coke or something.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm good for tonight.
Speaker B:I'll catch you guys when I get.
Speaker B:Because I'm so used to what I'm used to.
Speaker B:If I drink anything other than that, bro, I wake up the next morning, my head's beatboxing.
Speaker B:I'm just like, yeah, dry heaving.
Speaker B:It's bad, bro.
Speaker B:I don't need to be doing that at my age.
Speaker B:That was for college.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker E:I'd be drinking too much.
Speaker E:We already drank a bottle of Doucet before this, so.
Speaker E:Yeah, we going to drink some more?
Speaker D:Nah, bro.
Speaker D:But again, thank you for coming on.
Speaker D:Before we get you out of here, we want to ask you one first.
Speaker D:A piece of advice that kind of has stuck with you through your journey in your career.
Speaker D:That Keeps you going that you could share with somebody watching a supporter or somebody that might strike a chord with them, but then after that, let them know where to find you and what to look forward to, brother.
Speaker D:For sure.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:I would say if you're thinking about doing something or you want to do something, just do it.
Speaker A:Like, most of the time, everything works out, especially if you're young, like, especially if you're under 30, even under 40, especially if you don't have a family and stuff.
Speaker A:Like, take.
Speaker A:Take that risk.
Speaker A:Do.
Speaker A:Do what you want to do and stop caring so much what other people think.
Speaker A:Because that's, like.
Speaker A:I feel like the number one thing that holds a lot of people back is caring what other people think.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Once I, like, started to really try to practice that, like, it's like, f. What people think, like, I'm gonna do this either way.
Speaker A:I started to realize, like, okay, most people don't even care.
Speaker A:They're not even really.
Speaker A:Or they admire you for having the courage to do that.
Speaker D:Exactly.
Speaker A:That thing that you thought you were going to be judged for.
Speaker D:Exactly.
Speaker A:You know, and we only live once, so it's, you know, take.
Speaker A:Take risks.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker A:You got to take risks to succeed, I think.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah, but that's dope, bro.
Speaker D:That's dope.
Speaker D:And I think they can learn a lot from that because, you know, oftentimes we talk about it so many times that, you know, the success we're looking for, the life we're looking for is on the other side of the worries.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker D:All that other.
Speaker D:Because realistically, your consumer or your person that is going to support you ain't gonna be the person who's hating on you anyway.
Speaker D:And if they are hating, they're hating out of some silent, like, admiration, you.
Speaker B:Know what I'm saying?
Speaker D:They're just seeing you're doing something that they wish they could do, and they're finding reasons to tell themselves that they couldn't.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker D:So, yeah, no, that's dope, bro.
Speaker E:Let the people know, like, what's coming up next or anything to look for.
Speaker E:At least the people that watch you, follow you, support you.
Speaker E:Anything that is coming up in the works, for sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, like I said, we got.
Speaker E:Even though we talked about it a little earlier.
Speaker A:Yeah, got Little Chic's Deluxe for Faith.
Speaker A:His album he dropped recently.
Speaker A:Coming out very soon.
Speaker A:Really good songs on there.
Speaker A:You know anyone.
Speaker A:Anyone that's an artist, producer, songwriter that needs help collecting the royalties?
Speaker A:Hit me up at Raimi Music.
Speaker A:It's R A M E Y music on Instagram.
Speaker A:Would love to help you out.
Speaker A:And yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker D:No, thank you for coming, bro.
Speaker D:Again.
Speaker D:And if you guys haven't already, like, comment, subscribe, tune in it.
