Episode 15

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Published on:

1st Aug 2025

KeepItPeezy: Discipline, Dreams, and Doing the Work

🎙️ From freestyling in the car to directing Rolls-Royce music videos in Stockton—KeepItPeezy built a brand fueled by hustle, authenticity, and relentless discipline.

In this episode of Unquestionable The Podcast, Peasy shares his raw journey:

🏚️ Growing up working on rooftops, learning hustle from his family

🎤 Freestyling on Snapchat to running full video shoots with Lil Bean

👕 Launching CFRM, “Can’t Fake Real Motion”, and dropping off merch by hand

💪 His fitness journey and how discipline transformed his entire mindset

💰 Why he doesn’t need rap to survive—but still chooses to chase the dream

🧠 Mental health, motivation, and the cost of betting on yourself

🔥 Exclusive Keepitpeezy freestyle that sets the tone for what’s next

This is more than music—it’s motion. An inspiring story from a real one who’s living proof that you can’t fake what’s built on purpose.

⏱️ Timestamps:

00:00 – Peezy’s opening freestyle: bars, pain, and perspective

00:42 – Intro: From Oceanside to Stockton

01:25 – Getting into music, early influences, and Meek Mill motivation

03:04 – Sneaking on GarageBand and early freestyles

06:01 – How the Lil Bean video came together in Stockton

09:28 – Working with artists like DeeBaby and Fenix Flexin

11:01 – Hustle mentality rooted in childhood and family work ethic

13:10 – The difference between ’99 babies and the TikTok generation

16:55 – Advice to his younger self: Don’t rush, 10x everything

18:07 – Creative evolution: switching sounds, pleasing fans, staying true

20:36 – Merch game origins and the story behind C.F.R.M.

24:54 – Balancing hustle, music, and staying grounded with the gym

29:04 – Discipline over motivation: why the gym changed everything

32:17 – Investing in yourself mentally, physically, and financially

34:45 – What’s next: singles, the tape, and more vlogs

35:35 – KeepItPeezy delivers an exclusive Unquestionable freestyle

41:08 – Content plans: storytelling, BTS, and connecting with fans

42:39 – Turning merch into a full-blown brand

44:33 – The unexpected Travis Kelce moment

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Transcript
Speaker A:

The way I'm wired if I'm not working, I'm bored down bad shouldn't be the only time you talk to the Lord so God bless and thank you.

Speaker A:

Different paths, you ain't me and I ain't too Lead by example is bigger than me.

Speaker A:

Was my dog in high school now he live in the streets.

Speaker A:

Seem like every time I find the last one, I'm missing a piece.

Speaker A:

Seem like every time I find the last one, I'm missing a piece.

Speaker B:

What's going on, everybody?

Speaker B:

We back with another episode of the Unquestionable, the podcast.

Speaker B:

And we're here with.

Speaker B:

Keep it peasy, bro.

Speaker B:

Shout out to the boy for pulling up.

Speaker C:

Let's get it, Mr. Make It Happen.

Speaker D:

Thanks for pulling up, bro.

Speaker E:

Yeah, we appreciate you.

Speaker F:

Yeah, dude.

Speaker F:

Yeah, appreciate it.

Speaker E:

Appreciate y'.

Speaker E:

All.

Speaker E:

Appreciate y' all for having me.

Speaker C:

For sure, bro.

Speaker C:

But to start it off, you know, give us a little bit of a background, like, you know, your backstory, where you.

Speaker C:

Where you're from, what you do, you know, who you are, bro.

Speaker E:

Stockton, California.

Speaker E:

I was born in San Diego, Oceanside, actually, but been in Stockton my whole life.

Speaker E:

You know, that's where I'm from.

Speaker E:

Ain't really nothing to it.

Speaker E:

You know, we can get deeper into it, but that's where I'm from.

Speaker E:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker C:

And tell us a little more about yourself that, like, you know, obviously you're into music.

Speaker C:

You got, you know, your own clothing line.

Speaker C:

Like, tell us, like, kind of the origin story behind that stuff.

Speaker C:

Like, what got you into music, what got you where you're at today.

Speaker E:

It wasn't, like, one thing that got me into music.

Speaker E:

I feel like it was, like, a whole bunch of little things that got me to it.

Speaker E:

Growing up.

Speaker E:

My pops, he used to rap.

Speaker E:

I just remember riding around in the car, he'd be rapping in the car.

Speaker E:

That probably got me to it.

Speaker E:

Influenced by, like, movies, like, 8 mile to battle rap, watching other rappers, everybody.

Speaker E:

It wasn't like I grew up wanting to be a rapper.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

It was just, like, the shit that they had.

Speaker E:

I wanted that.

Speaker E:

So.

Speaker E:

So that's how I got into it.

Speaker E:

Even in high school, I had, like, friends that rapped and other local artists that I was like, okay, if y' all could do this, I could do this, too.

Speaker E:

That's really how I got into it.

Speaker C:

What year did you start, like, officially, you know, to pinpoint it?

Speaker E:

be exact, but probably like,:

Speaker E:

2016?

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker F:

You remember your first, like, studio session?

Speaker F:

Like, your first session, like, with the Headphones on and behind the mic.

Speaker E:

Yeah, I was at my boy's house.

Speaker E:

We was at my boy's apartment.

Speaker E:

He was really.

Speaker E:

He was rapping in high school, like I said, and I was just at his house, and I just got in there and tried it and really went up from there.

Speaker E:

And then to go back, actually, we would always freestyle riding around in a car.

Speaker E:

And this was Snapchat first hit.

Speaker E:

So somebody had put me on Snapchat freestyle.

Speaker E:

And everybody commented, like, bro, you should rap.

Speaker E:

You should rap.

Speaker E:

Actually, to back it up even more, now that I'm remembering, my pops, he had a computer at the house.

Speaker E:

So when I did actually first start rapping, it wasn't like a studio session.

Speaker E:

But when my pops would leave and go to work, my step pops, I would sneak on his computer.

Speaker E:

I get on GarageBand.

Speaker E:

I upload the.

Speaker E:

I'd upload the.

Speaker E:

The beat off YouTuber.

Speaker E:

Like, it'll be instrumental.

Speaker F:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker E:

I upload an instrumental, rap over it.

Speaker E:

No headphones, nothing.

Speaker E:

Just, like, click beat on the speaker, beat on the speaker, rap.

Speaker E:

And then I download it, save it to my phone, delete it so nobody would see it.

Speaker E:

And then I called my pilot, like, bro, pull up.

Speaker E:

You gotta hear.

Speaker E:

I show him in a car.

Speaker E:

And that happened for probably, like, 30 days or however the.

Speaker E:

However long it was.

Speaker E:

But he was like, bro, you got a rap.

Speaker E:

You should.

Speaker E:

You.

Speaker E:

You got it.

Speaker E:

Hell, yeah.

Speaker E:

All right.

Speaker B:

So at what point was you like, you're like, damn.

Speaker B:

You start feeling yourself a little bit, like, okay, yeah, you kind of right.

Speaker E:

Like, that was kind of tough.

Speaker E:

The reactions that I get from my friends, like, y', all, we just in here listening to it, and everybody like that, that goes hard.

Speaker E:

So, yeah, that's dope, bro.

Speaker F:

And, like, going on YouTube, like, what were your.

Speaker F:

Your type beats that you would look up?

Speaker F:

Like, your early days, you know, at.

Speaker E:

The time, bro, like, into the.

Speaker E:

To the music.

Speaker E:

I would say a lot of it was like, the shy rack, just because that's what was popping at the time.

Speaker E:

But to even go farther than that, I grew up off of, like, Meek Mill.

Speaker E:

I was hella tough on Meek Mill.

Speaker E:

And, like, what I just rapped right now, like, that type of.

Speaker E:

That was really clean to me.

Speaker E:

So, yeah, so hard.

Speaker C:

He put me on Tory Lanez dumb early.

Speaker C:

Like, you know the shit he would put out in, like, early mixtapes, he'd have to.

Speaker C:

Tory Lanez on hooks, Tory Lanes on verse.

Speaker F:

And he was spitting, too.

Speaker F:

Meek, man was tough, bro.

Speaker F:

He was.

Speaker D:

Hell, yeah.

Speaker E:

You could just feel it.

Speaker E:

Yeah, so that's why when you listen to my music, at least some of my music, because I like to switch it up and it be that you could really feel anybody.

Speaker E:

Any of y' all could feel it?

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker C:

I noticed that you, like, switch up sonics like you said.

Speaker C:

You switch up different sounds, but you still remain kind of true to that.

Speaker C:

Like, bro, you're talking real.

Speaker C:

Like, you're talking some.

Speaker C:

That it's motivating, but it also, like, somebody's gonna feel it.

Speaker C:

Like, tell us some of your, like, inspirations of what, you know, made you get that style.

Speaker C:

Because everybody has their own style of, like, context, of, like, what they talk about, what gave you.

Speaker E:

You know, I'll go back to saying, like, Meek Mill, will Snoop like that type of music.

Speaker E:

I don't know.

Speaker E:

Maybe just the.

Speaker E:

That I was going through.

Speaker E:

I couldn't really tell you, but they would just come out in the music.

Speaker E:

That shit like therapy for me.

Speaker E:

And I don't like to talk about certain.

Speaker E:

But when I get on the mic, I'll.

Speaker E:

I'll just express it.

Speaker C:

It's easy.

Speaker F:

And that's what I was gonna ask, like, is it comfortable for you to just, like, be vulnerable like that behind the mic?

Speaker E:

Behind the mic?

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

There's nobody listening.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

In that freestyle y' all gonna hear on here, I think I said on there, I said.

Speaker E:

I said something about the mic.

Speaker E:

The only thing.

Speaker E:

Or I said the mic know the most about me.

Speaker E:

It's the only one I ever vent to because, you know, nobody listen.

Speaker E:

I'm talking to myself.

Speaker E:

So.

Speaker E:

Yeah, I wanna.

Speaker D:

I wanna keep it real.

Speaker D:

We, you know, we be, you know, keeping up with you and stuff.

Speaker D:

I seen the post with little Bean, bro.

Speaker D:

How was that?

Speaker D:

How's that interaction, man?

Speaker D:

I gotta ask you.

Speaker E:

All right, bro?

Speaker E:

That's dope.

Speaker E:

To actually dive deep into.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

I wanted, like, how did that happen, bro?

Speaker D:

Like, walk us through.

Speaker E:

You know, I've been a fan.

Speaker E:

I've been a fan of the Bay Area music, like Lil P, Lil Bean, Yee Zay Bang, all that.

Speaker E:

Because they actually get into that Bay Therapeutic, you feel?

Speaker F:

Yeah.

Speaker F:

We're Biggie fans around here.

Speaker F:

We love being 2p.

Speaker E:

Everybody.

Speaker E:

All of it.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

So that was like a.

Speaker E:

And everybody would tell me, like, that shows.

Speaker E:

That shows swag.

Speaker E:

Like, get into that.

Speaker E:

I don't do this.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

I don't do the.

Speaker E:

The, like, melodic, but just, like, the storytelling.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

I've been in.

Speaker E:

Big fan.

Speaker E:

I tapped in with him.

Speaker E:

He.

Speaker E:

He ain't even hit me back at first.

Speaker E:

I think I was Just riding around, listening to his.

Speaker E:

And I was feeling it how, like, I feel my own music.

Speaker E:

Like, damn, this one hit.

Speaker E:

So I posted a story and I tagged him, like.

Speaker E:

And I said, somebody tapped me and I gotta get on a song, bro.

Speaker E:

And then my reach kind of.

Speaker E:

It goes a long way.

Speaker E:

So a few of my homies hit me, like, oh, I know, bro.

Speaker E:

Or people I didn't even know that with me, like, oh, I know.

Speaker E:

Whoopty whoop.

Speaker E:

I know him.

Speaker E:

So they all tapped in and he ended up tapping back in with me.

Speaker E:

And, like, let's get on some.

Speaker E:

That's how that happened.

Speaker E:

The video.

Speaker E:

He pulled up to Stockton by himself.

Speaker E:

Real nigga, man.

Speaker E:

That was dope.

Speaker E:

Also.

Speaker E:

I'm like, I didn't get to rap with, bro.

Speaker E:

Like, I wanted to, because I'm, like, directing.

Speaker E:

I got three cameramans there.

Speaker E:

I do everything myself, so I got three cameramans there.

Speaker E:

The building we had, I'm talking to the building owner.

Speaker E:

I'm talking to the security to pull the cars up.

Speaker E:

I got Rolls Royce Lamborghini in my name.

Speaker E:

I can't get these bitches towed.

Speaker E:

Fuck.

Speaker E:

It's just a lot of shit going on that I'm controlling.

Speaker E:

So I ain't really get to talk to him like I wanted to, but it was a.

Speaker E:

It was a dope experience.

Speaker E:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker C:

No, that was dope, bro.

Speaker C:

Seeing a rose in a land truck, it was crazy, bro.

Speaker E:

And that's what he said, too.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

Like, the homies got to talk to him more than I did.

Speaker E:

Cause they in the back chilling.

Speaker E:

I'm directing, making sure everything cool.

Speaker E:

But, you know, he was telling him too.

Speaker E:

Like, you know, you don't get to see this.

Speaker E:

This part of Stockton.

Speaker E:

Like, you know, you think of Stockton, you think bad.

Speaker E:

You know, you think fucking everything that you see, but you don't.

Speaker E:

That shit ain't regular.

Speaker E:

And, you know, I would have told him like this.

Speaker E:

You ain't gonna see this unless you with me.

Speaker E:

For real.

Speaker E:

Nobody's doing that type of.

Speaker E:

Over there.

Speaker F:

Yeah, no, we thought he was gonna pull up in one of them.

Speaker E:

We was looking.

Speaker F:

We was peeping up.

Speaker C:

No, when I saw that video, I was like, the rose and the lamb and the 209.

Speaker C:

That's crazy, because like you said, you only see it down I5 maybe if.

Speaker E:

Somebody'S taking the train to LA.

Speaker E:

And the thing.

Speaker E:

I had to grab the coloring, bro, because I could.

Speaker E:

There was on.

Speaker F:

It was a must.

Speaker F:

It was a must.

Speaker E:

And that happened.

Speaker E:

Like, I hate, bro.

Speaker E:

Like, bro, we gotta shoot this video that day.

Speaker E:

We recorded a song a long time ago, but, you know, he busy, he got his own going on.

Speaker E:

And he hit me like, let's record today.

Speaker E:

I'm like, today, like, let's do it.

Speaker E:

Give me like a couple days.

Speaker E:

And then we ended up having to do it that day.

Speaker E:

So I'm like, man, let's go get the culling in and really just put it together, bro.

Speaker E:

I had to make a statement with that one.

Speaker C:

Yeah, and for sure you did.

Speaker B:

Because I mean, like, like we're all saying, I mean, you know, it's not every day you see that type of in.

Speaker B:

In the 209, let alone how far the reach goes out here, all the way to gold, back to El Grove and everything.

Speaker B:

It's just crazy to bring being out here.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, it was a hard, tough move.

Speaker E:

Yeah, that's how you gotta do it.

Speaker B:

For real.

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker C:

And talking about collaborations, where I seen you've worked with D Baby, bro.

Speaker C:

You worked with Phoenix, you worked with Envy.

Speaker C:

Now you've worked with so many, you know, artists that we with, like, tell us about some of the processes and some of them that like, are most special to you.

Speaker C:

Even the P song, that Pete song, Fire, I know that's the old one.

Speaker E:

But just networking, bro.

Speaker E:

You know, I'm into hustling and business.

Speaker E:

So I know you got to spend money to make money.

Speaker E:

And just the connections that I have, like, I'd be all over the place, all over the world.

Speaker E:

And like the Detroit, I already was going out there with like Baby Money's people.

Speaker E:

So that's kind of, kind of how that came apart.

Speaker E:

But he also see my.

Speaker E:

This freestyle and commented on it.

Speaker E:

And I tapped in with him and I already knew his brother, so I'm like, oh, you know, I told bro, like, you know, it just a whole bunch of like other people telling them.

Speaker E:

I don't know how you would say that.

Speaker E:

Yeah, that's how that happened.

Speaker E:

I was dope.

Speaker E:

The little P. Same situation.

Speaker E:

D Baby was more just I with D Baby.

Speaker E:

So I tapped in like, what you want for reverse type and you better go hard.

Speaker E:

I with D Baby.

Speaker E:

Me too, bro.

Speaker E:

I with D Baby.

Speaker E:

We were supposed to shoot a video, but he never hit me back.

Speaker E:

Yeah, yeah, that's tough too.

Speaker F:

He's going on tour with NBA.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker F:

So that should be a crazy tour too.

Speaker E:

But my favorite experience though, to get back to the question would be the little bean one.

Speaker E:

That's.

Speaker E:

It was more like genuine, you know.

Speaker C:

And even seeing the vlog, bro, like, you had all your people out There.

Speaker C:

And like, that's motivating to not only like, you seeing that, like I'm, I'm really doing it, but also to all the people around you that are seeing, like, he's really doing it.

Speaker C:

All it takes is just investing in myself, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker C:

And you know, to go from that, I kind of wanted to ask you about that.

Speaker C:

Like, obviously, hustle runs deep.

Speaker C:

Whether it goes through your music.

Speaker C:

You merge everything, bro.

Speaker C:

Like, what, what do you credit that hustle mentality to, like my mama, bro.

Speaker E:

Strictly to my mama and my family, like, and getting back to like, what we was talking about off camera, like, I grew up a lot different than a lot of people.

Speaker E:

Not to like shade anybody or make it seem like I'm better than anybody, but a lot of my peers and shit are just people that I be around or people that I know.

Speaker E:

They didn't grow up like me, bro.

Speaker E:

I grew up working on a roof, coming from like a hard working family, People owning businesses, roofing, landscaping, concrete.

Speaker E:

Even if it's a 9 to 5.

Speaker E:

My mama was slaving by herself, single parent.

Speaker E:

So I grew up on the roof working.

Speaker E:

I knew how to drive a tractor before I knew how to drive a car.

Speaker E:

Laying cement grout.

Speaker E:

When I'm little, seven years old, you feel me?

Speaker E:

So that's really where my grind come from.

Speaker E:

My family, in my mind.

Speaker B:

Nowadays, I mean, it seemed a little more rare too, with the whole social media generation.

Speaker B:

The younger cats, all they want to do is just be on the phone.

Speaker B:

And it's rare that you, you have an upbringing like that.

Speaker B:

You meet someone that was, that was kind of raised like that.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

And I feel like my generation was like the turning point of it, you know, Like I seen like growing up, YouTube wasn't a big thing and content and all that wasn't a big thing, but it was transitioning into that.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

I feel like last of the 90s babies.

Speaker E:

I was in 99.

Speaker E:

Yeah, yeah, no, like right there in that.

Speaker E:

But I was one of the, one of the good ones.

Speaker E:

Not the iPad, baby.

Speaker F:

Nah.

Speaker B:

I mean, well, we, me and him, we 97 babies, I'll be talking about all the time.

Speaker B:

I'm like, I'm a 90s baby.

Speaker B:

Said three years before:

Speaker E:

Telling people I'm lasting for darn breathe.

Speaker E:

Come on.

Speaker E:

It's crazy.

Speaker D:

you like, you know, below the:

Speaker E:

Like yeah, bro, that crap.

Speaker E:

I forgot what my little sister told me because I don't know what I was talking about.

Speaker E:

I think it was like fairly odd parents, bro.

Speaker E:

I bring up like, fairly odd parents.

Speaker E:

as like, like, that's so late:

Speaker E:

I'm like, what?

Speaker C:

Late.

Speaker E:

S, early:

Speaker E:

I'm like, damn, that's making me feel.

Speaker E:

Feel I'm 26, 25 years old.

Speaker C:

All right, so on this topic then, what, What.

Speaker B:

What's what's ym?

Speaker C:

What's un?

Speaker B:

What's.

Speaker C:

Oh, what's big bro?

Speaker E:

Your perspective on the one y. N?

Speaker E:

I mean, nowadays, probably like 15, bro.

Speaker E:

15.

Speaker E:

Maybe bad, bro.

Speaker D:

Maybe bad as fuck.

Speaker E:

Like around that age, they'd be like, I'd be.

Speaker E:

They'd be younger than that.

Speaker E:

But I would say up to like 18 or something like that.

Speaker E:

17.

Speaker E:

What's after that?

Speaker B:

After the big bro?

Speaker E:

I feel like I'm in my big bro.

Speaker C:

But I'm like, until I'm 30, I ain't claiming.

Speaker E:

Honestly, bro, I hear people say this all the time.

Speaker E:

And maybe I say this because when I get older, I don't want to be called it, but I would say you when you 40, you know, chilling.

Speaker D:

When you somebody who's actually like, I'm.

Speaker B:

Like, big bro, it don't stop at 30.

Speaker E:

Like I said, I have my pop.

Speaker E:

So like, and I had a great family foundation.

Speaker E:

So I grew up off a game from my ex and it was around that age.

Speaker E:

So that real un to me, I don't know what everybody else.

Speaker E:

It's that social media.

Speaker C:

You see that video that NBA posted, they're all like, if you're.

Speaker C:

If you're older.

Speaker C:

The:

Speaker C:

Only one of them said 40.

Speaker C:

I was like, damn, are we really that old at this point?

Speaker B:

Just a younger generation, bro.

Speaker B:

They just see it a lot differently.

Speaker B:

Cuz I like, he just said like the same thing for me back in the day.

Speaker B:

I'm like, when you growing up, the UN is like 40 years old.

Speaker E:

And then.

Speaker B:

And then like you look at people that are our age back then and you're just like, oh, that's just like every older bro, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker E:

I feel like everything nowadays is way faster paced.

Speaker E:

Like people getting money younger.

Speaker E:

I think just this year when like the promotions and was happening, high school promotions.

Speaker E:

I've seen kids coming to school with a honey K. I'm like, this wasn't doing that before.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that problem was stacks.

Speaker E:

Like, I felt like I was getting money.

Speaker D:

The thing Is is that I feel like back when we were younger everything was kind of separated.

Speaker D:

Like social media.

Speaker D:

Now everybody's intertwined into kind of one big like mesh thing.

Speaker D:

That was like, it was like really separated.

Speaker D:

Like, you know, everybody's not being exposed to Meg the Stallion shaking it like, you know, like some crazy like you that's like people are like actually watching.

Speaker D:

That's their age.

Speaker D:

You feel me?

Speaker E:

No, you know, that's right.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

It was really separated like too.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That's why you see the little ass 7 year olds and.

Speaker B:

And like he said they listening to Megda Stallion and that you.

Speaker B:

We probably wouldn't even be able to listen to.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Back in our day.

Speaker B:

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker E:

I don't even like to be on social media like that.

Speaker E:

I just do because I'm a artist and like try to stay in tune.

Speaker E:

Try to not be an og.

Speaker E:

Nah.

Speaker C:

And I think, I think what he said hits the nail on the head right there is access.

Speaker C:

Like they have access to so many different things that we didn't have as much access to.

Speaker C:

Like even coming out of college during COVID I remember just seeing like what other people were doing or you know, just you, you have so much access to see like people your age that are doing different things or whatever and you know, comparisons of Thief of Joy.

Speaker C:

Put yourself in their shoes and be like, why can't I do that?

Speaker C:

And I remember like out of college I'd go to my mentors and be like, like, I don't know what to do.

Speaker C:

Like, I feel like I could get this job but everything's not going my type shit like that.

Speaker C:

And he'd be like, bro, everybody your age just doesn't relax.

Speaker C:

Like doesn't realize that it's a journey.

Speaker C:

Like it takes time.

Speaker C:

Like you don't need to be, you know, established in your career that first year of your career.

Speaker C:

Everybody expects that.

Speaker C:

And I think even when you were rabbit earlier, you just about to get.

Speaker E:

To that to roll into the next point.

Speaker E:

I said if I, if I met my young self, I'll tell him, just don't rush.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

But at the Same point in 10x everything you're doing, it kind of don't make sense.

Speaker E:

But it's more like don't rush it.

Speaker E:

You know, think about it.

Speaker C:

Invest in the journey next.

Speaker E:

Everything you're doing.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

Make it more impactful, be consistent and don't waste your time because you'll blink.

Speaker E:

And that should fly by.

Speaker C:

No, definitely.

Speaker C:

If you're not looking at that like we were so focused.

Speaker C:

Sometimes because of that accessibility, we're focused on the finish line rather than understanding.

Speaker C:

Like, hey, don't rush.

Speaker C:

Focus on the goal and 10 exit, like you said.

Speaker C:

Just, you know, do more than what you're doing now, and I guarantee that finish line will come to you quick.

Speaker E:

It's the funnest part to me.

Speaker E:

You know, I ain't got to my end goal, but I definitely love it.

Speaker E:

You know, I don't want to quote paid in full, but I really love hustling.

Speaker E:

Like, that is fun.

Speaker E:

The grind is really fun to me.

Speaker C:

No, bro.

Speaker C:

And you.

Speaker C:

You exude that in your.

Speaker C:

In your music, in your merch and everything you do, bro.

Speaker C:

Like, your Can't Fake Real Motion album, even like every.

Speaker C:

alking about that established:

Speaker C:

That's what I was gonna say.

Speaker C:

But that song was fire.

Speaker C:

You came into, like, another, like, lane in a sense, sonically, but like, bro, you.

Speaker C:

You met it.

Speaker C:

Where was that?

Speaker E:

I tried it, like, when I dropped my music to just roll into that, since we just talking.

Speaker E:

But when I dropped my albums, I.

Speaker E:

It's like a pro and a con though, too.

Speaker E:

Like, I feel like everybody, when they drop, it's always like their genre.

Speaker E:

Like, that's.

Speaker E:

Every song sounds the same to me.

Speaker E:

I tried to.

Speaker E:

Like, if you listen to any of my albums, like, the first song ain't gonna sound like the next one or the next one.

Speaker E:

I might have like, a highlight of four songs that sound the same, but I really try to mix it up all the time to hit different audiences and shit like that.

Speaker E:

But some people don't like that.

Speaker E:

Some people are like, nah, stay in this bag.

Speaker E:

But the reason why you saying, stay in this one, somebody else liking the other ones.

Speaker E:

So I just try to give it to them all.

Speaker B:

Trying to please everybody.

Speaker B:

I want.

Speaker E:

Trying to please everybody that's smart about the game, huh?

Speaker C:

And it's like you're packaging the same just with a different wrapping paper, almost like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker C:

Like this.

Speaker C:

You're still saying that cuts through the beat.

Speaker E:

That's.

Speaker C:

That you gonna hear and be like, damn, bro, like, I gotta pick up the shovel.

Speaker C:

I gotta keep moving.

Speaker C:

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker E:

Like, and then even to roll into that, like, I know what's hot right now.

Speaker E:

Like, the whole EBK Cali drill music.

Speaker E:

Like, everybody love that shit.

Speaker E:

So the song I just dropped yesterday, can't relax if you listen to it.

Speaker E:

It's like that type of beat, that type of tempo, but I'm talking, like, how I do, you know, trying to get into what's hot but give my story at the same time.

Speaker E:

You know what I mean?

Speaker E:

And people are liking that one.

Speaker C:

No, for sure, because you're making it your own, like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker C:

And really creating that brand of keep it peasy and who you are as a.

Speaker C:

Not only an artist, but as a brand, bro.

Speaker C:

And that's.

Speaker C:

It's consistent through everything you're saying.

Speaker E:

That is crazy.

Speaker E:

Just because I feel like I've been telling him and just other people.

Speaker E:

Like, when I was telling y' all before, for a long time, I was trying to, like, please everybody else and make music for everybody else.

Speaker E:

Yes, it was for me, but I'm, like, trying to please everybody else.

Speaker E:

And, like, right now, where I'm at with the brand, with the music, I'm just doing me.

Speaker E:

People love it, and I know that people love it.

Speaker E:

It might not be as much as I want to, but I have a core fan base that's gonna stand with me forever just because they love the energy, the motion, the realness that comes out of it.

Speaker E:

So that's my role.

Speaker E:

Every.

Speaker E:

Everybody has their own character to play, in a sense.

Speaker E:

Like, everybody has their own.

Speaker E:

I don't even know how you say it.

Speaker E:

Like, they're your own.

Speaker E:

You know them for a certain reason, and that's me just being authentic and genuine and trying to motivate people.

Speaker C:

No, definitely.

Speaker C:

And the same reason that Meek Mill hit you so hard when you were growing up is the same reason you're hitting your fans, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker C:

So you got to stay true to that and just keep.

Speaker C:

Keep 10x in it, like you said, bro.

Speaker C:

Because it's gonna pay off that it's going, bro.

Speaker C:

For real.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

I was going to talk about, you know, speaking on the topic of branding and stuff like that.

Speaker D:

I see the merch, you know, you're rocking it, bro.

Speaker E:

Yeah, got to, bro.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

You know, motion.

Speaker E:

That's.

Speaker E:

That's.

Speaker E:

That's factual.

Speaker E:

That's.

Speaker E:

Walk us.

Speaker E:

Y' all got it.

Speaker D:

Yeah, Walk us through a little bit, too.

Speaker D:

Like, you know the brand, what you got the name.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

Like, how it started.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Meaning everything.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

Let's go back to my hustler, bro.

Speaker E:

It's just in me.

Speaker E:

So, like, when I first started music, I don't know, I might be wrong, but seven years ago, eight years ago, 10 to seven years ago, if you go all the way back to my first drops I had on Keep It Peasy or keep it pushing merch.

Speaker E:

I was always, let's even go back deeper than that to where I said I come from a family of hustlers.

Speaker E:

Whether it was a slaving from a 9 to 5 on the roof, doing whatever, I've always had that hustle drive in me.

Speaker E:

But watching everybody slave and still not have money and struggle or like not living like everybody else.

Speaker E:

I wanted to live like lavishly.

Speaker E:

Like, I wanted just, I wanted something different.

Speaker E:

I don't want to do that.

Speaker E:

I could do it for sure.

Speaker E:

You know, I could jump in any lane and I'm gonna excel to the top of it.

Speaker E:

But I don't want.

Speaker E:

I want free time.

Speaker E:

But to roll over to the music and then to the merch.

Speaker E:

I was just always branding, trying to push myself farther, make some money off of merch.

Speaker E:

If I'm rapping and everybody's watching me, they gonna buy these T shirts.

Speaker E:

Here you go.

Speaker E:

You feel me?

Speaker D:

And then the mentality.

Speaker E:

And then for years, bro, I would try to find something other than keep it peasy because y' all don't want to walk around with keep it peasy on your shirt.

Speaker E:

You feel me?

Speaker E:

Like, not everybody does.

Speaker E:

Maybe you would one day, but you can't wear that shit everywhere.

Speaker E:

Yeah, so I was always looking for like a brand I used to have when I first started.

Speaker E:

If you go all the way back, I wasn't always like this, talking like this, you know, I was into bullshit and I went to prison, bro.

Speaker E:

Just hella shit deeper than that.

Speaker E:

But on the first merch I had keep it peasy with a Draco on it for the K. And like, like I said, I come from a. I'm a black sheep in my family.

Speaker E:

I come from a hard working family.

Speaker E:

But I see my grandpa wearing my shirt because they just support anything I'm doing.

Speaker E:

But you know, my grandpa, like, I'm telling you, I'm the black sheep with.

Speaker E:

These are hardworking men, you feel me?

Speaker E:

That built the foundation.

Speaker E:

He wearing a Draco just to support me.

Speaker E:

And I'm like, man, I can't have grandpa walking around with a Draco.

Speaker C:

They're looking at him like walking in the.

Speaker E:

Come on, man.

Speaker E:

So that's.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

So I branched off to that did something else to fast forward because that's the story itself to get to.

Speaker E:

Can't fake real motion.

Speaker E:

I was just rapping one day and I was in my bag, I was in my zone, just blacked out rapping.

Speaker E:

And at the end of the song, I was just, you know, when you talk shit on the song.

Speaker E:

I'm not even rapping no more.

Speaker E:

But the beat on, I was like, man, you can't fake this shit.

Speaker E:

Can't fake real motion or whatever.

Speaker E:

I still didn't even think of nothing.

Speaker E:

I sent the song to the homies, and then my boy hit me back because he know I've been looking for something.

Speaker E:

He was like, cfrm.

Speaker E:

I'm like, what the fuck is that?

Speaker E:

And then he was like, you said can't fake real motion in a song.

Speaker E:

That's it.

Speaker E:

And I'm like, you right?

Speaker E:

That's hard.

Speaker E:

So.

Speaker E:

And then it went up from there.

Speaker E:

And it's really a statement.

Speaker E:

It's a movement.

Speaker E:

Like, you can wear that shit anywhere.

Speaker E:

You guys got motion.

Speaker E:

What we doing right now?

Speaker E:

This is motion.

Speaker E:

If you get up and you go to work every day nine to five, you got motion.

Speaker E:

If you print T's up, you got motion.

Speaker E:

So.

Speaker E:

And you can't fake that shit, you know?

Speaker E:

Like, you can't.

Speaker E:

You just can't fake it.

Speaker B:

So say that you're doing it or you're not.

Speaker E:

You're doing or you're not, and it's gonna show.

Speaker E:

Like I said, I with that.

Speaker E:

That's dope.

Speaker F:

And I feel like too.

Speaker F:

stening to you too since like:

Speaker F:

2019.

Speaker E:

For real?

Speaker E:

That's tough.

Speaker E:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker F:

I remember your YouTube videos with the Keep PZ merchant and all that.

Speaker E:

Okay, so you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker F:

Sure, you're talking about.

Speaker E:

That's tight.

Speaker F:

But I remember too, you didn't have like, a lot of your music on, like Spotify and it.

Speaker F:

I remember like, on.

Speaker F:

It was probably like:

Speaker F:

Maybe like Covid era.

Speaker F:

You dropped hella music on Spotify and like, dropped.

Speaker F:

You came back.

Speaker F:

I thought you didn't do music for a while.

Speaker E:

I didn't.

Speaker F:

I remember too.

Speaker F:

I seen somewhere too, you were talking like, how you didn't even need rap to make music.

Speaker F:

Like, you was just hustle made money to make money, so you didn't need rap to make money.

Speaker F:

And so you.

Speaker F:

And I was like, damn, so what more does he do?

Speaker F:

And I remember going on your Instagram like, oh, this dude be doing more than just rap.

Speaker E:

But he.

Speaker F:

He really true to what he's talking about, like, in his music too.

Speaker F:

Like, he's not.

Speaker F:

He's not lying.

Speaker E:

You know what I mean?

Speaker F:

So, like, I listen to you.

Speaker F:

I'm like, oh, man, this is motivating me crazy to like, get to push.

Speaker B:

Him tonight, you know?

Speaker E:

What I'm saying, yeah, whatever it was, do it for.

Speaker E:

That's a gift and a curse, too, though.

Speaker E:

Like, I hate to say it like that, but, like, I. I don't have to make music to make money, but this is what I want to do, and I know how far I can go.

Speaker E:

And, like, I got bills to pay, bro.

Speaker E:

I got mortgage.

Speaker E:

I got people that I take care of that depend on me.

Speaker E:

So I can't only do music because I don't make too much money from this, and I only put money into it.

Speaker E:

Chasing the dream that I'm doing, I make money otherwise, but I pour it into this, into everything else.

Speaker E:

So, like, that being said, chasing a dream requires 100 focus, and like, hustling requires 100 focus, and other life requires that too.

Speaker E:

So juggling all that at one time, selling merch, hustling, trying to create a business, trying to be the biggest rapper, I was inconsistent as.

Speaker E:

But, yeah, like I said, it's a gift and a curse.

Speaker B:

That's real, bro.

Speaker B:

Because, I mean, nowadays too, with the whole social media and like, we were talking about, you see rappers that are just faking the funk, I mean, they making.

Speaker B:

Making it seem like, oh, yeah, they're just down for this and that, and then they're just living a life.

Speaker B:

But for you to come out and just be like, no, I. I do it because I'm really bad about it.

Speaker B:

I make money other ways.

Speaker B:

But it's like, I mean, that's motivational even for everybody out there.

Speaker B:

Who, your fans, who listen to you, follow you, who you inspire, like, to show them.

Speaker B:

And it's like, no, that behind the.

Speaker B:

The Instagram, the pictures, the photos and all this, like, I'm a real hustler, bro.

Speaker B:

This is what I want to do.

Speaker E:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker E:

Yeah, this is what I want to do.

Speaker C:

Exactly.

Speaker C:

You're working your ass off to put yourself in the position.

Speaker C:

So you're working my dude.

Speaker E:

And people think, like, it's easy.

Speaker E:

I make it look easy.

Speaker E:

And then two, I don't get on podcast.

Speaker E:

I don't do this.

Speaker E:

I don't get on.

Speaker E:

I don't tell my side of the story.

Speaker E:

But everybody's always coming to me, like, my life's perfect.

Speaker E:

You feel me?

Speaker E:

Or, like, I can just fix everything because you only see what I post.

Speaker E:

Instagram, you get on every.

Speaker E:

Anybody post.

Speaker E:

It's only highlights of your life.

Speaker E:

Exactly.

Speaker E:

You don't know the backstory.

Speaker E:

So it's like, that's just hard.

Speaker E:

I'm telling you, juggling everything at one time is not easy.

Speaker C:

No, definitely.

Speaker C:

And you know, amidst all that chaos and having to juggle so many things at one time, you know, seem like a perfect perfectionist to where you put your all into every single thing.

Speaker C:

How do you stay grounded and take time for yourself, bro?

Speaker C:

Like Jim, okay, gym, there you go.

Speaker F:

I actually have seen your, your gym journey too.

Speaker C:

Yeah, bro, it's been a big health journey, so I want to touch on that.

Speaker F:

I remember that you was.

Speaker E:

I was big.

Speaker E:

There you go.

Speaker E:

But yeah, that's how I stay grounded.

Speaker E:

I wanted to say something else right now, but I hella forgot.

Speaker E:

But what you was asking me with that question right now.

Speaker C:

No, just like, you know, amidst all that chaos, you know, how do you stay grounded?

Speaker C:

How do you take time for yourself?

Speaker E:

Time for myself, But I don't get time for myself.

Speaker E:

I take care of so much.

Speaker E:

But going to the gym, like I say, it's not like I tell people all the time, I love looking good.

Speaker E:

You feel me?

Speaker E:

Like being healthy, but like, I really go from my mental and like to stay grounded, bro.

Speaker E:

Like to stay disciplined.

Speaker E:

The that I do, the that anybody does.

Speaker E:

I hate to highlight me, but like, if you want to take care of business, you have to be disciplined.

Speaker E:

There's no way around it.

Speaker E:

Discipline beats motivation every single time.

Speaker E:

There's no shortcut.

Speaker E:

And I tell people that come to me all the time asking me about this, that, and the third, go to the gym.

Speaker E:

You're gonna have to be even if they're overweight, if they're not overweight.

Speaker E:

It's not for your weight, it's not for looking good.

Speaker E:

It's the fact that I hate going to the gym, bro.

Speaker E:

Like, I do love it, but I fucking hate waking up going to the gym.

Speaker E:

I don't want to go every day.

Speaker E:

Like I go every day.

Speaker E:

I don't want to go.

Speaker E:

So waking up every morning having a fucking shit day, having everything in my life going bad, but just still making myself go to the gym makes everything else easier.

Speaker E:

It keeps me grounded.

Speaker E:

It's like, okay, I did what I didn't want to do.

Speaker E:

So anything else that's challenging me, what is it?

Speaker E:

Like?

Speaker E:

It's not.

Speaker E:

It's nothing to me.

Speaker E:

I've already went and knocked this out, this heavy ass workout.

Speaker E:

I really be working out.

Speaker E:

I don't just go in there and be around.

Speaker E:

So yeah, yeah, it makes everything easier for me.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's a good mentality to have too, because you hear a lot of people talking about it, but I mean, coming from me, Specifically, bro, speaks volumes.

Speaker B:

And just like how you're saying the, like, I think, who am I quoting when I say it's like people think that because you have discipline, you, you have no freedom.

Speaker E:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

But the discipline brings a freedom.

Speaker E:

Yeah, I tell people too, like when people ask me shit like that of like, how do you stay grounded, how do you do this, how do you do, like, why do you go to the gym?

Speaker E:

To better anything in my life where there's going to the gym is the best thing I could have ever did.

Speaker E:

Like, just being on that type of path, getting my discipline is the best thing I could have ever did for myself.

Speaker E:

Because, like, creating a better you will create everything else in your life better.

Speaker E:

You can't.

Speaker E:

Like, I can't help a different situation.

Speaker E:

I can't help my business, I can't help my relationship.

Speaker E:

I can't help nobody if I can't help myself.

Speaker E:

So creating a better you will create everything in your life better.

Speaker E:

That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker C:

No, for sure, it translates.

Speaker C:

Whether it goes into work or anything else like that, determine not only determination, but discipline.

Speaker C:

Like you said, having to do, wake up and do something like, I don't want to.

Speaker C:

Yeah, you always feel better right after.

Speaker C:

You're like, I got it out the way, I got it out the way.

Speaker E:

The best workouts is when I don't want to be there.

Speaker E:

And speaking of it, bro, today I'm not making this up.

Speaker E:

Today I woke up late, I went to the gym at like 12 o' clock is Friday.

Speaker E:

Went to the gym, I get a bad phone call about some business that didn't happen that I ain't gonna speak about.

Speaker E:

I'm walking in the gym, having a bad phone call.

Speaker E:

I start stretching, I'm still on this bad phone call.

Speaker E:

I can't even work out.

Speaker E:

So I leave, I go outside, left.

Speaker E:

I mean, I go outside, sat in the car, call somebody else, still talking about the same topic.

Speaker E:

That's otherwise.

Speaker E:

But after that, I sat in my car, I'm like, I, I'm already.

Speaker E:

Hell, I'm just about to leave like, I ain't gonna work out today.

Speaker E:

But I'm like, I'm gonna have to do it tomorrow.

Speaker E:

That's the discipline kicking in.

Speaker E:

So I go back in, I do my workout, and I felt great.

Speaker E:

So that'd be the best times.

Speaker E:

When I don't want to go.

Speaker E:

That didn't be the best times for me.

Speaker B:

You just feel better when you be like, damn, I hell, I didn't want.

Speaker E:

To be here, but I did it.

Speaker E:

So that translates to everything else.

Speaker E:

You don't want to be in these situations, but you do it.

Speaker E:

You know, everybody stops chasing their dream.

Speaker E:

Everybody stops doing something when it gets hard.

Speaker E:

But like, to be able to train yourself to push through that, that's where you're gonna be great.

Speaker E:

That's where every time I hit a wall and like, I know, like, I'm gonna stop doing this, I'm gonna quit doing this.

Speaker E:

I know a lot of people reached this point and stopped.

Speaker E:

And that's why I didn't get that far.

Speaker E:

So if I just keep pushing through that, it's only up from there.

Speaker B:

I'm about to say it ain't no selling.

Speaker B:

When you got that mentality, you only.

Speaker C:

Fail when you quit.

Speaker E:

For real.

Speaker E:

Exactly.

Speaker C:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker E:

It's like, fail.

Speaker E:

The only way you can fail is if you stop.

Speaker E:

If you stop, like, exactly.

Speaker C:

That's the only way somebody could say, oh, remember when you did that?

Speaker C:

Like, if you're still doing it, bro, you still got the motion.

Speaker C:

It.

Speaker C:

No, for real.

Speaker C:

But obviously it sounds like you're, you know, you're very into investing in yourself.

Speaker C:

Whether that be mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, anything, bro.

Speaker C:

Like, where do you get that from?

Speaker C:

And what, what's your advice to other people who might struggle with that same thing?

Speaker C:

Because I think that's the younger generation, they struggle to.

Speaker E:

You're saying where I get that mentality.

Speaker C:

Yeah, and invest in yourself.

Speaker C:

You know, so many people, they don't.

Speaker C:

That's where they stop chasing their dream is because when the dolly signs that come up with it or the mental heartache that comes with it, or things of that nature, what keeps you pushing through?

Speaker E:

I couldn't really tell you where I got it from.

Speaker E:

Like, I mean, just going back into the first question, the hustle to grind from my family, for my mom, seeing shit that I didn't want, like seeing other people, even for the gym, bro.

Speaker E:

Seeing other people older, unhealthy, going to the doctor, overweight, having to do this.

Speaker E:

I don't want to do that.

Speaker E:

When I'm.

Speaker E:

I was 240, like I said, I was going down that path a few more years.

Speaker E:

By the time I was 40, probably would have been unhealthy, unhappy.

Speaker E:

I see it.

Speaker E:

I see it all the time.

Speaker E:

I go to the store, you see it.

Speaker E:

I don't want to be that.

Speaker E:

So that's why I changed that.

Speaker E:

And then even money wise people come to me all the time, struggling, like unhappy, have no Time for themselves and don't have no money because you at work slaving for somebody else.

Speaker E:

I don't want to be that.

Speaker E:

So that's really where my motivation comes from.

Speaker E:

Like, I just want different for myself.

Speaker E:

And like, it's not just for me.

Speaker E:

Like, if you know me, you know, I do this for everybody around me, bro.

Speaker E:

Like my whole family, my whole camp, everybody that helps me, bro.

Speaker E:

I'm doing this for.

Speaker E:

I hate to see, I hate to hear them conversations.

Speaker E:

I hate all of that, even just people I don't know.

Speaker E:

I would love to help everybody's situation, but I can't.

Speaker E:

So that's why I chase this music so hard too.

Speaker E:

It's not just for me at all.

Speaker E:

Yes, you got to be selfish.

Speaker E:

I would give that tell somebody that you have to be selfish, not in a bad way, but like I said, create a better you.

Speaker E:

It's going to create everything else better.

Speaker E:

For a long time I would try to, like I said, please everybody else.

Speaker E:

And not just in music, in hustling, in business and fucking whatever it was.

Speaker E:

I was always, here you go, bro.

Speaker E:

You take this.

Speaker E:

I'm not going to eat or here you go, I'm going to give you this so you can go do this.

Speaker E:

But I'm not going to make nothing.

Speaker E:

But I just want to help you.

Speaker E:

Or here's some money.

Speaker E:

You can't pay your bills.

Speaker E:

I'm going to give you some money.

Speaker E:

You think I got it all, but I don't.

Speaker E:

You feel me?

Speaker E:

But I'm still gonna give it to you because that's the type of person I am.

Speaker E:

But it always bit me in my eyes in the end.

Speaker E:

So that's why I'm able to speak now.

Speaker E:

I say be selfish, you know, and.

Speaker D:

Then one thing that I'm getting from is persistence is key, you know, you're just exuding persistence, bro.

Speaker D:

We're talking about you staying up with music.

Speaker D:

You say you just dropped a song yesterday.

Speaker D:

Well, like for the people who, you know, fans and stuff like that.

Speaker D:

What are you working on?

Speaker D:

What's coming up next?

Speaker D:

Anything out?

Speaker D:

Like update the people, update us.

Speaker D:

What's going on as far as like.

Speaker E:

Music wise and so music wise singles videos.

Speaker E:

I got that Beam video about to drive.

Speaker E:

I really have a tape.

Speaker E:

I don't know when I'm a drop it yet.

Speaker E:

I want to keep dropping singles and build a buzz, then drop that tape and just consistent work, bro.

Speaker E:

You're going to see me on Instagram way more.

Speaker E:

Like I said, I'm trying to be way more Consistent.

Speaker E:

That would probably be my biggest, like, lack or downfall that I had is not being consistent.

Speaker E:

So, yeah, you're just gonna see me a lot more doing this.

Speaker E:

This is my second time being on the interview podcast, but, yeah, it's a lot more work.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Are we gonna see more vlogs?

Speaker E:

Yep.

Speaker C:

Yes, sir.

Speaker E:

Yes, sir.

Speaker D:

I think we might have to.

Speaker D:

I think we might have to spotlight the first.

Speaker D:

First ever keep a peasy freestyle on unquestionable podcast.

Speaker E:

You feel me?

Speaker E:

I don't know if you all ready.

Speaker D:

To move into it, but it.

Speaker E:

Let's do it.

Speaker C:

Let's do it.

Speaker E:

Come on.

Speaker E:

Ready?

Speaker D:

And we can, you know, cut it right there and then allow that to go into it and stuff like that.

Speaker B:

Wait, one question before we get started.

Speaker E:

What.

Speaker E:

What.

Speaker B:

What's the.

Speaker B:

What's the PZ verse going for nowadays?

Speaker B:

What's the feature going for?

Speaker E:

The code part is, like, I really be texting, bro.

Speaker E:

I'd be taxing.

Speaker E:

Because I don't like.

Speaker E:

If you notice, I don't.

Speaker E:

I don't do verses like that.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

Because I don't need to.

Speaker E:

And, like, I don't be liking people's music or what they talk about.

Speaker E:

So it's more like if I with you and, like, I fucking with you pushing, or I fuck with you as a person, and I'm gonna just do it, but, like, to a random person, I feel like it's high for me, five bands, because I don't really want to do it, and I know they probably don't want to pay it.

Speaker E:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

Does that go into consideration?

Speaker B:

Like, you're like, I'm attacks him harder just so he probably push off.

Speaker E:

If it's somebody I completely have no interest into, I'm gonna just tax him because I know he's not gonna want to do it.

Speaker E:

And if he does do it, I'm gonna take 5,000 for sure.

Speaker E:

Then I go do it, then it's worth it for me.

Speaker E:

If not, I don't really want to do it anyway.

Speaker E:

Yeah, I'm not hungry.

Speaker E:

I'm not.

Speaker E:

I mean, I'm hungry.

Speaker E:

I'm not like, I don't need it.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

Like, I'm not gonna do $500.

Speaker C:

Y' all see that video where a rapper I forgot who maybe exhibit or somebody?

Speaker C:

They're like, yeah, it was 20,000 until too many whack got 20,000 and went up to 40,000.

Speaker C:

Too many whack had 40,000.

Speaker C:

I had to go up to 50,000.

Speaker C:

That's funny.

Speaker C:

No, that's.

Speaker E:

That's 20,000 all day I'll sit here and make versions just if my hardest verse you can bring me to.

Speaker C:

No but with that being said, let's, let's do it.

Speaker C:

You got your hardest verse.

Speaker C:

Let's hear it right now.

Speaker E:

Come on.

Speaker E:

I wrote this on the way here, so I'm read it off the phone.

Speaker A:

t to the vision crystal clear:

Speaker E:

A piece yeah.

Speaker F:

Right there that was.

Speaker C:

That came through and slid bro, we appreciate you for sure I feel like.

Speaker B:

I'm doing planks.

Speaker E:

I'm hungry I Want more spin.

Speaker C:

So is that one coming out soon or what?

Speaker E:

What.

Speaker E:

What can we.

Speaker E:

Yep.

Speaker E:

I couldn't tell you a day.

Speaker E:

Like I said, I was writing that on the way over here, so.

Speaker E:

Gotta get some content.

Speaker E:

Shoot a video for that, and it'll be out real soon for sure.

Speaker C:

Nah, speaking of content, bro, let's.

Speaker C:

Let's talk more about content.

Speaker C:

What's your vision for the content moving forward?

Speaker C:

Like we said earlier, bro, we'd love to.

Speaker C:

To help or pull up, get some content for you.

Speaker C:

Whatever, Whatever.

Speaker F:

Behind the scenes, some vlogs, 24 hours.

Speaker C:

With PZ, you know?

Speaker E:

Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker E:

I don't really.

Speaker E:

I wouldn't say I have, like, a plan of what I want to do.

Speaker E:

I just know I need more content.

Speaker E:

Shit like this.

Speaker E:

Whether I want to get more into me, because I know people want to hear my story, you know, hearing the music is great, but, like, I feel like going back to, like, Larry June.

Speaker E:

People fuck with.

Speaker E:

People love his music.

Speaker E:

I'm not saying people don't, but people love him as a person.

Speaker E:

Like, Burner.

Speaker E:

People love him as a person, what he does.

Speaker E:

And I feel like that's kind of my lane.

Speaker E:

Like, I'm not the artist that's just gonna drop and do a million views, but people love me as a person, so they listen to my music, you know?

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

So I want to get more into, like, not just uploading a real at the gym with my music in the background.

Speaker E:

More of me talking and letting you get to know me.

Speaker E:

Riding around in the car, printing up T shirts.

Speaker E:

I just was.

Speaker E:

I just did that clothing.

Speaker E:

Drop them.

Speaker E:

They're sold out.

Speaker E:

I was kind of vlogging the whole thing.

Speaker E:

I. I myself, I can have somebody else do it, but I want to pull up and give you the shirt.

Speaker E:

It's a different, genuine connection.

Speaker E:

People taking pictures with me, people seeing me, like, just.

Speaker E:

That is real.

Speaker E:

It's all.

Speaker E:

I'm not faking it.

Speaker E:

Cfrm.

Speaker E:

But I'm vlog.

Speaker E:

Vlog that.

Speaker E:

I want to make, like, a real out of that.

Speaker E:

Just so people can see the inside, bro, not just the music.

Speaker D:

Yeah, that's wild, bro.

Speaker D:

You pulling up, dropping straight.

Speaker E:

Everybody kept telling me that, even some people was like, bro, you shouldn't be doing that.

Speaker E:

You have.

Speaker E:

Some of you bigger than that, have somebody else doing that.

Speaker E:

But no, I'm not.

Speaker B:

It goes a long way.

Speaker C:

Never bigger than the program, bro.

Speaker E:

Like, we riding around.

Speaker E:

I got him telling me addresses, where we going, we bagging up, and I'm telling him the whole time, like, this is fun.

Speaker E:

I love this, bro.

Speaker D:

Yeah, that's authentic.

Speaker D:

It's original, bro.

Speaker B:

Not too many people doing that, bro.

Speaker C:

It just shows, like.

Speaker B:

Like, he's saying, you're never bigger than the.

Speaker B:

Than the program, bro.

Speaker E:

Exactly.

Speaker E:

And.

Speaker E:

And in two, there's not a lot of people that.

Speaker E:

I mean, not everybody can do that either.

Speaker E:

So I'm trying to, like, show that, you know, I can do that.

Speaker C:

No, definitely talk to us a little more about the merch, bro.

Speaker C:

Are you playing.

Speaker C:

What's the vision for that?

Speaker C:

Are you planning to get, you know, bigger and bigger drops, turn it into a full, you know, line?

Speaker E:

Everything, bro.

Speaker E:

I would love to.

Speaker E:

I actually love clothes, like, and just doing the whole aspect of it.

Speaker E:

Making it.

Speaker E:

Making it, printing it, doing a promotion for it, seeing people's reactions, selling it, pulling up, counting the money afterwards, counting money before.

Speaker E:

I'd love all.

Speaker E:

Every aspect of it.

Speaker E:

So, yeah, I would love to make that as big as it can be.

Speaker E:

I'm already trying to work on a new drop, but, like, Brody was telling me because I had so much fun doing that.

Speaker E:

I'm like, we gotta get another drop in.

Speaker E:

Be like, get in the studio.

Speaker E:

Get in the studio.

Speaker E:

Go rap.

Speaker E:

You still a rapper.

Speaker E:

So I'm like, yeah, so funny.

Speaker B:

That's reality.

Speaker E:

And that's, like, what sells it too.

Speaker E:

So everything go hand in hand.

Speaker C:

Yeah, you have to water all the plants.

Speaker E:

Water every single plant, bro.

Speaker D:

I know that you guys were mentioned earlier.

Speaker D:

I know that we kind of backtrack, but the content.

Speaker D:

He's talking about the Travis Kelsey.

Speaker D:

Hey, I gotta talk about that too.

Speaker E:

No, that was crazy, bro.

Speaker C:

Like I said, that was crazy.

Speaker C:

Seeing somebody from.

Speaker E:

That.

Speaker E:

That was nuts.

Speaker E:

Shout out to Travis Kelsey, man.

Speaker E:

Tap in, bro.

Speaker E:

Let's get.

Speaker C:

I don't know.

Speaker C:

He's a little more white.

Speaker E:

Just kidding.

Speaker E:

But I don't even.

Speaker E:

I told y' all before, I'm not in tune.

Speaker E:

Like, I'm not on social media and like that.

Speaker E:

Like, it looks like I am because I post and all the time, but I don't be.

Speaker E:

So I didn't even see it till, like, a long time later.

Speaker E:

And really, my auntie.

Speaker E:

I don't even have a Tick Tock at the time.

Speaker E:

Like, I probably had it, but I didn't have a post.

Speaker E:

I didn't have nothing up on it.

Speaker E:

And he posted it on Tick Tock, so I think my auntie sent it to me.

Speaker E:

It was like, travis Casey posted you.

Speaker E:

And then I looked at it.

Speaker E:

I'm gonna get Travis Kelsey and post me.

Speaker E:

I'm like, It's a fake page.

Speaker E:

I put my phone down, bro.

Speaker E:

I didn't even.

Speaker E:

I didn't even acknowledge it because my auntie.

Speaker E:

I'm like, why are you telling me this?

Speaker E:

Nobody else told me this with you.

Speaker E:

So I'm like, I didn't even believe it.

Speaker E:

I didn't research it or nothing.

Speaker E:

Probably like a day passed and my cousin is from Kansas City, Missouri.

Speaker E:

Shout out Buddha.

Speaker E:

That's my cuz.

Speaker E:

But you know, he a die hard Casey fan.

Speaker E:

And she I think called him.

Speaker E:

And he called me like Andy said Travis Kelsey posted you.

Speaker E:

And I'm like, man, that was fake.

Speaker E:

You feel me?

Speaker E:

And he's like, oh, for real?

Speaker E:

And then I checked it again and I look on his page.

Speaker E:

I'm like, nah, this really Travis Kelsey.

Speaker E:

And I think I sent it to some people.

Speaker E:

Like, is this Travis Kelsey?

Speaker E:

Like he really posted my.

Speaker E:

And yeah, it was him, bro.

Speaker E:

That was.

Speaker E:

That was tight.

Speaker E:

This is wild.

Speaker E:

That's dope.

Speaker B:

Is that real?

Speaker C:

Did that funnel into like, you know, know all of your channels?

Speaker C:

Like what.

Speaker C:

What growth did you see from that?

Speaker E:

If you want me to be a thousand percent, bro, I could be wrong because I'm not behind the scenes looking at it.

Speaker E:

But I see it did a lot on Tick Tock for that song Blessed.

Speaker E:

I see Blessed went up a little bit.

Speaker E:

It still didn't hit no M. Like I feel like that's a M worth song.

Speaker E:

A lot of my music I feel like be hits and that should be M's and.

Speaker E:

But that could just be me.

Speaker E:

But I feel like that started to go viral on Tick Tock and.

Speaker E:

And it should have been pushed hard.

Speaker E:

Like.

Speaker E:

And that's just old song.

Speaker E:

I probably dropped that two years before he posted it.

Speaker E:

And that just goes to show, you know, keep working.

Speaker E:

Something could pop later on down the line.

Speaker E:

Somebody gonna hear it.

Speaker E:

Even if it got:

Speaker E:

Even if it got a million views, there's still millions of people in the world that didn't hear it.

Speaker E:

And I tried to take advantage of it.

Speaker E:

I was with this or at the time.

Speaker E:

And I think I called them like, bro, Travis Kelsey posted my song.

Speaker E:

Y' all need to push this.

Speaker E:

Like make this.

Speaker E:

This is going viral already.

Speaker E:

I gotta this posting my song and then not just him.

Speaker E:

If you go look at the users, NBA, NFL, mlb, a whole bunch of sports, college people, golfing, the mech gala.

Speaker E:

I'm not a fan, a fashion dude, but I don't know what that is, but they're Huge.

Speaker E:

It was on what, bro?

Speaker C:

It was on mixtapes and wasn't it?

Speaker E:

Everybody was posting it.

Speaker E:

And I'm saying in every page that Cowboys posted it.

Speaker E:

The Eagles, like, I'm trying to tell them, like, let's, let's piggyback off this.

Speaker E:

Let's, let's.

Speaker E:

But they made a post about it, but they didn't, like, do content like I think they should have did.

Speaker E:

You know, I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker E:

Or I should have did, I guess.

Speaker E:

But I was with them at the time.

Speaker C:

No, I feel that going from that, like, break it down, like working with Dizzler.

Speaker C:

How was that?

Speaker C:

How did that come about?

Speaker C:

And you know, how was that experience?

Speaker E:

They had just tapped in, offered me a little distribution deal.

Speaker E:

I worked with them.

Speaker E:

It was cool.

Speaker E:

They promoted the.

Speaker E:

Out of me.

Speaker E:

Like, I definitely gained a lot from it.

Speaker E:

And I think the biggest thing, why I wanted to work with them, like, where I was like, okay, I need to do this because being juggling everything that I do.

Speaker E:

Like I said, I don't have a manager.

Speaker E:

I'm still.

Speaker E:

I'm.

Speaker E:

I'm 25 now.

Speaker E:

I don't know how.

Speaker E:

I was still young, still learning shit.

Speaker E:

It held me accountable to where they're like, okay, turn this song in tape here, video this day.

Speaker E:

So, like, it just held me accountable to do music while I'm doing everything else.

Speaker E:

And that was the biggest plus I got from it.

Speaker E:

That and then some.

Speaker E:

Some fans and the exposure.

Speaker E:

But I feel like this was NorCal based.

Speaker E:

I mean, that's facts.

Speaker E:

There's every artist that goes there just stays in NorCal.

Speaker E:

I feel like they.

Speaker E:

Some people do break out a little bit, but I didn't want to stay on there because I just didn't want to be stuck right there.

Speaker E:

I want to get everywhere else.

Speaker C:

Ms. Hartfield, are you fully independent now?

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Okay, for sure.

Speaker C:

Have you thought about working with other labels or anything?

Speaker C:

Or are you thinking about just staying?

Speaker E:

I'm definitely open to any, any, any, any opportunity.

Speaker E:

Holla at me and we can figure something out.

Speaker E:

I've had people offer me though.

Speaker E:

Like, I had people offer me X amount of money for my catalog and songs.

Speaker E:

Some people try to catch me off for certain songs.

Speaker E:

Like, here's.

Speaker E:

Yeah, some good money.

Speaker E:

Like, here, here's this.

Speaker E:

But it's just nothing that I'm making money.

Speaker E:

Like I said, I make my own money.

Speaker E:

So it's nothing that's like, okay, I'd rather just stay independent and grind it out and get my little monthly check.

Speaker E:

You feel me like Instead of taking a, taking a bag and then when I spend it, I'm not getting no money for my music.

Speaker E:

You know, I see a lot of people take deals.

Speaker E:

A lot of artists on Instagram complaining about oh, I can't drop or the label me this Saturday and just that I don't understand.

Speaker E:

So I'd be trying to not get over.

Speaker C:

Yeah, no, because that's ultimately what it is.

Speaker C:

You know, you sell, you sell it away and then when it's worth more, so everybody comes screaming back like they own my masters.

Speaker C:

And it's like, well, you sign the paperwork but you know, ultimately at the same time you have to, to like you said, you have to do your due diligence and like, no, like it's not worth it because realistically it's not.

Speaker C:

If you put it into terms like you're like, damn, I can make that lump sum in the next two years and still make more.

Speaker E:

Exactly.

Speaker C:

On like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker E:

It's not worth it.

Speaker E:

It sounds good and it'll probably, it'll probably be good while it lasts, but that gonna be gone.

Speaker E:

I didn't spent a lot of money.

Speaker C:

So yeah, sounds good in the short term, but you could damn near get a loan and it'll be just as good.

Speaker E:

But people don't understand that.

Speaker E:

So people, people be jumping on that and we're a lot of people like you know, to the people out there coming up or hot and people are offering you like, you know, they don't really know nothing else.

Speaker E:

So like they see that first little bag, that first check or the first offer and they take that.

Speaker E:

But you know, it'd be in a up position but I wouldn't, I would just, I would just hold off, sav it out.

Speaker D:

You know, it's been crazy just to see like how like, honestly these guys have been like rocking with you for how long.

Speaker D:

Everybody's been, you know, rocking with you for how long and stuff like that.

Speaker C:

GI was a daily slap for me.

Speaker C:

I ain't going.

Speaker E:

I was trying to get guys attention with that.

Speaker E:

I would love to do some with Empire because you can stay independent.

Speaker E:

From my understanding, I'm not like all the way in it, but I know they're independent record labels so you can stay independent and still be with them.

Speaker E:

So that'd be dope.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

That song, tell your baby daddy get his record straight up that fire.

Speaker C:

I ain't going to lie.

Speaker C:

I love that song.

Speaker C:

Song being fully independent.

Speaker D:

Way to go.

Speaker B:

Yeah, bro.

Speaker B:

It's been, it's been Crazy just having you here, man.

Speaker E:

Yeah, we appreciate you.

Speaker E:

I appreciate it.

Speaker E:

Y' all make it easy for me.

Speaker D:

No, yeah, that's.

Speaker D:

That's the, like, you know, the experience that we want to create for people that pull up on us and stuff.

Speaker D:

It's just, you know, just chopping it up with the boys.

Speaker E:

Like, you know, like, we in the garage, we're in the backyard.

Speaker D:

That's the type of, you know, energy we will give off, you know?

Speaker C:

For real.

Speaker C:

Nah, bro.

Speaker C:

But before we get you.

Speaker C:

Get you out of here, I want to ask, bro, what's one piece of advice that.

Speaker C:

That you want to give to, you know, supporters, people out there that want to chase the same thing or just anything that, you know, you hold tight to yourself but can stick with others?

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

A hard question, but, like, off the top of my head, I don't want to repeat myself, but I would say, bro, create a better you, and everything else will get better.

Speaker E:

Invest into yourself.

Speaker E:

Get yourself right before you try to do anything else.

Speaker E:

Definitely stay consistent.

Speaker E:

And I'm.

Speaker E:

And anytime I talk or speak about something, I speak from experience.

Speaker E:

Not he say, she say.

Speaker E:

It's from, like, I did it, or I either, like, I up or it worked for me.

Speaker E:

But, like, be consistent.

Speaker E:

Create a better you.

Speaker E:

And don't waste time, because like I said earlier, that's.

Speaker E:

You're blinking.

Speaker E:

That shit will pass by 10x everything you're doing, but at the same time, it's chest, not checkers.

Speaker E:

And calculate every move.

Speaker E:

And even when you calculate that move, still look at all the other things, all the other pieces on the board because.

Speaker E:

Happens, bro.

Speaker E:

That is like, my.

Speaker E:

I don't know how many times I say that a month.

Speaker E:

Like, some always.

Speaker E:

Some always happens.

Speaker E:

So be prepared.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

With the punches.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

And it's not gonna be easy.

Speaker E:

Like, whatever you chasing is not gonna be easy.

Speaker E:

It's gonna be hard.

Speaker E:

So get in the gym and get your discipline through the roof so that you can.

Speaker E:

You can.

Speaker E:

You can get through them hurdles.

Speaker E:

Like, you can.

Speaker E:

You can get knocked down and keep going.

Speaker E:

So.

Speaker E:

No, bro.

Speaker E:

And that goes back to create a better you.

Speaker C:

Yeah, bro, definitely.

Speaker C:

And we appreciate you coming, bro.

Speaker C:

Let the people know where to find you.

Speaker E:

Instagram.

Speaker E:

Keep it peasy.

Speaker E:

24, underscore.

Speaker E:

7.

Speaker E:

Tick tock.

Speaker E:

Keep it peasy.

Speaker E:

Underscore.

Speaker E:

And just keep it peasy on YouTube.

Speaker E:

CFRM can't fake real motion.

Speaker E:

Look it up, you'll find me.

Speaker E:

But, yeah, appreciate y' all for having me.

Speaker C:

If you guys haven't already, like, comment, subscribe, and pull up again next week.

Speaker C:

We with y', all, and we're out of here.

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About the Podcast

Unquestionable the Podcast
"Unquestionable the Podcast" brings together four long-time friends for a fun and lively exploration of humor, curiosity, entertainment, and current events. Join us as we dive into a wide range of topics with a blend of wit, camaraderie, and unfiltered conversations. From our quirkiest pastimes and the latest in entertainment to hilarious takes on current events, each episode is packed with laughs, insights, and the kind of banter only old friends can share. Tune in for your weekly dose of fun and friendship, where no topic is off-limits and the good times are guaranteed.