Episode 20

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Published on:

10th Sep 2025

DJ Kenzo on Out De Trunk, Sacramento Kings DJ Life & Building Stockton Culture

๐ŸŽง From Out De Trunk sessions on the streets of Stockton to spinning for the Sacramento Kings in the Golden 1 Center, DJ Kenzo shares his journey of faith, hustle, and community on Unquestionable the Podcast.

In this episode, we cover:

๐Ÿšš The creation of Out De Trunk and why itโ€™s more than music

๐Ÿ€ What it feels like to DJ for the Sacramento Kings and live out a childhood dream

๐ŸŒ† Stocktonโ€™s evolving music scene and the diversity of sounds shaping its identity

๐Ÿ™ Faith, humility, and surrounding yourself with the right team

๐Ÿ’ก The balance between brand, gigs, and community impact

๐Ÿ˜‚ Wild stories, strip club โ€œtherapy,โ€ and raw honesty on growth

Itโ€™s inspiration for creatives, culture-builders, and anyone chasing unconventional success.


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Transcript
Speaker A:

I did the whole like, you know, go to the room with the girl.

Speaker A:

Like, I was just like, when I was in there, I remember, literally it became like a therapy session.

Speaker B:

She started talking about your life to.

Speaker A:

You because, like I was sitting there and she was, I was just like, hey, you don't have to do all that.

Speaker A:

And then I started thinking, I started expressing to her, like, I don't even know why I'm back here, to be honest with you.

Speaker A:

Like, you just did a really good job of like persuading me to be back here.

Speaker A:

And then she sat down and she's like, so, like, what's on your mind?

Speaker A:

I'm like.

Speaker A:

And I told her what was on my mind.

Speaker B:

What's going on, everybody?

Speaker B:

You back with another episode of Unquestionable, the podcast.

Speaker B:

We're here with the special guest today, DJ Kenzo yourself, bro.

Speaker A:

Yes, your boy, my voice.

Speaker A:

What's up y'?

Speaker A:

All?

Speaker A:

It's your boy, DJ Kenzo from Stockton, California, man, here on the Unquestionable podcast, bro.

Speaker A:

Thank you guys so much for having me.

Speaker A:

I'm happy to be here.

Speaker B:

Yeah, thanks for coming on, bro.

Speaker B:

Yeah, thank you for taking time out of your day, coming out this way.

Speaker A:

For us, bro, anytime.

Speaker B:

No, but to start off, let us know a little bit about yourself, bro.

Speaker B:

Obviously you told us where you're from, but tell us about what it is you do and what makes you you bro, man.

Speaker A:

So yeah, my, my real name is Kenna Bakari.

Speaker A:

That's my real name.

Speaker A:

And I got the name Kenzo cuz one of my homies couldn't say my real name so he was just like, it, I'm gonna call you Kenzo.

Speaker A:

And that's how we got that.

Speaker A:

And I'm a dj, bro.

Speaker A:

I'm a dj.

Speaker A:

Family originates from Sierra Leone, Africa.

Speaker A:

I was raised in Stockton, me and my sister.

Speaker A:

And yeah bro, I DJ like all over DJ for probably one of the greatest rappers right now, Russell DJ for my opinion.

Speaker A:

The greatest basketball team in the world is Sacramento Kings.

Speaker B:

Sacramento Kings, baby.

Speaker B:

Stand up.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

Come on.

Speaker A:

And I DJ for the people and I DJ for myself.

Speaker A:

And yeah man, I, I curate an event some I've been curating in the, curating some really dope spaces for people to really kind of what we were talking about earlier.

Speaker A:

Just like I'm coming for the dj.

Speaker A:

I'm coming to see him.

Speaker A:

I'm kind of see what he was rocking and it get, it gets me some time to really curate and generate some really dope sets of like music for the People and getting back to what DJing originated off of, which is dancing, putting people on the new music and new sounds.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, that's a little bit of what I do and kind of who I am.

Speaker A:

I guess I always struggle with the who.

Speaker A:

Like, tell us who you are.

Speaker A:

Because, man, it's like, it's so much, bro.

Speaker A:

And then you'll start like, every person that you like when you do that, you start telling them about what you do.

Speaker A:

And like, my uncle used to be like, man, tell me who you are.

Speaker A:

I'm like, man, we'll be here for a minute.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

Where do I start?

Speaker B:

Exactly?

Speaker A:

Yeah, bro, real.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, I guess that kind of answers.

Speaker A:

Who I am is just really caring, loving person, child of God, and just someone that loves to curate dope events.

Speaker A:

And I want to be on festivals and big stages one day.

Speaker A:

And based off what I.

Speaker A:

My morals and stuff, I. I don't want to do it the way some other.

Speaker A:

No offense to some other DJs, but, like, the way.

Speaker A:

The typical way is to do it, I want to do it, you know, our way, you know, And I say our way because, you know, God has a way for me and I just got to follow it.

Speaker A:

For sure.

Speaker B:

That's definitely dope.

Speaker B:

And when you talk about DJing, there's so much more to that, too.

Speaker B:

Like you said, you curate spaces.

Speaker B:

You have out the trunk, you curate a whole platform that is.

Speaker A:

I forgot about.

Speaker B:

Great, yeah, great quality platform.

Speaker B:

We can't.

Speaker B:

We can't leave that out.

Speaker B:

You got so much, you know, things that make you dj.

Speaker B:

Kenzo, do you, you know, do you catch yourself struggling to.

Speaker B:

To balance everything sometimes, man.

Speaker A:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker A:

It's like why I went and got me a manager, because I, like, really struggle with, like, I want to say struggle, but it's just like, man, and just balancing all of it and then still having time for yourself.

Speaker A:

Like, that's really.

Speaker A:

Sometimes I struggle with.

Speaker A:

I'm a very present person.

Speaker A:

Like, I'll be in the moment, but every now and then I'm human and I'll get out of my moment or just get out of the moment and start thinking about what's next and stuff of that nature.

Speaker A:

So, man, I'm really random and spontaneous, so I'll be focusing on something for a minute and then, oh, well, we gotta do this, we gotta do that.

Speaker A:

So, I mean, just having a dope manager and dope people around me and just a dope team, and it's been building, but it's been easy to balance everything.

Speaker A:

But in the beginning, man.

Speaker A:

It was not at all.

Speaker A:

I don't think I could have did out the trunk four years ago for sure.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm glad I'm doing it now.

Speaker B:

No, and it's great, bro.

Speaker B:

Seeing just how the.

Speaker B:

In the way it's moving.

Speaker B:

It's exponentially fast, too.

Speaker B:

Like seeing the young to video.

Speaker B:

We were watching that, okay.

Speaker B:

Nostalgic as, bro.

Speaker A:

Like, super dope.

Speaker A:

And it was like, man, I mean, we've all been like, young to fans for a minute.

Speaker A:

I rock with bro.

Speaker A:

So heavy.

Speaker A:

And shout out to the homie.

Speaker A:

Splash, Splash.

Speaker A:

Kind of like, curated that.

Speaker A:

And Tio actually DM me about it.

Speaker A:

He was the one who hit me.

Speaker A:

He was just like, man, I would let it go out the trunk.

Speaker A:

And my manager was like, did you see who DM'd us?

Speaker A:

I'm like, who?

Speaker A:

And she's like.

Speaker A:

I was like, wait, well, I'm gonna ask.

Speaker A:

I could just go to the table.

Speaker A:

And I went and I seen a young T. I was like, bro, that's crazy.

Speaker A:

And I don't know, man.

Speaker A:

Like, at that time, I was like, at a weird place without the trunk.

Speaker A:

Like, even though it was really going up, I was at this point of just like, man, bro, like one.

Speaker A:

We have a team of people doing it.

Speaker A:

So it's like videographers, dude driving the truck, my homie who's doing photos.

Speaker A:

So it's a space where we're not getting revenue.

Speaker A:

We don't get anything from it.

Speaker A:

So it's like, damn, bro, how am I gonna be able to pay these dudes?

Speaker A:

How am I gonna be able to take care of these guys the way I really, really want to?

Speaker A:

And at the time, I was just like, man, like, might as well, like, if I'm still trying to figure out how to make it in a way where it's like, you know, because that's not what we did it for.

Speaker A:

We didn't do it to get paid.

Speaker A:

We just did it because it was really, really cool.

Speaker A:

And I wanted to open up a space for people to come on and to really give them their flowers, bro.

Speaker A:

Like, some of my favorite artists have been able to come on.

Speaker A:

And it's artists that I listened to.

Speaker A:

And I was always thinking to myself, man, like, breaking some artists songs in the clubs is really hard nowadays because not everyone's really listening.

Speaker A:

They want to hear that Sexy Red.

Speaker A:

They want to hear that Drake.

Speaker A:

They want to hear that Kendrick.

Speaker A:

They don't want to hear that brand new young to right now.

Speaker A:

Like, they may.

Speaker A:

Who knows?

Speaker A:

Like, they may but like.

Speaker A:

But I don't know, it's just really hard or like, it's not easy to break records.

Speaker A:

So I'm like, let's create a platform to where people are tuned in and are watching and we can break these records and make.

Speaker A:

Man, it was really dope to have Tio on, and he did some new shit that we're really excited to drop too.

Speaker A:

But yeah, I just wanna.

Speaker A:

That episode really gave me more gas to the fuel, like, to be like, all right, let's just keep going.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, we'll figure this out as we go.

Speaker A:

And if you guys believe in what I'm doing, then, you know, stay on board.

Speaker A:

If you don't, hey, it is what it is.

Speaker A:

I'll see y' all next time.

Speaker A:

We'll find someone else.

Speaker A:

But just believe when this thing takes.

Speaker B:

Off, it's gonna take off.

Speaker A:

She's gonna take off.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

You gonna get taken care of.

Speaker A:

So, like, if I was, you know, if I.

Speaker A:

If I had to bet on me, I'm betting on me every single time, even if I wasn't me.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

Yeah, definitely, because same.

Speaker B:

Same for us, you know, like, there are certain days, like you said, it gets discouraging.

Speaker B:

You're not making nothing.

Speaker B:

You're.

Speaker B:

Or you're like, just have all.

Speaker B:

You might not get received the way you want it to right away or something.

Speaker B:

You know, things.

Speaker B:

And it's so easy to like, beat yourself up.

Speaker B:

But then you have that one.

Speaker B:

One video that works.

Speaker B:

And the one thing that works.

Speaker B:

And oftentimes, you know, that's enough to fill up the tank for.

Speaker B:

For a while.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And that's all you need.

Speaker A:

And it was crazy because, like, the.

Speaker A:

The first kind of like.

Speaker A:

So we.

Speaker A:

Malachi was first.

Speaker A:

I don't know if you guys know who he is.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, no, he's dope, bro.

Speaker A:

He's 19 years old from Merced, California.

Speaker A:

And man, he's just a.

Speaker A:

He's just a really great hearted person on top of a great rapper.

Speaker A:

He's a fantastic rapper.

Speaker A:

Probably one of the best, like, we've ever seen at that age.

Speaker A:

Like, he's ridiculous.

Speaker A:

And I've always.

Speaker A:

I was a fan of him as a rapper, but I'm even.

Speaker A:

That's like my brother.

Speaker A:

That's like, really my dog.

Speaker A:

Like, I get emotional talking to my brother.

Speaker A:

Like, I love him to death.

Speaker A:

And I already kind of was doing mashup videos out the trunk originally.

Speaker A:

Cause me and my boy Jerry so kind of rewind and sorry if y' all didn't ask, but I'm gonna tell y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

But, like, rewind a little bit.

Speaker A:

It was like 20.

Speaker A:

Maybe:

Speaker A:

And I had a meeting with my homie Jerry.

Speaker A:

Cause he had just started videography.

Speaker A:

And I told him, like, man, I don't want to be known as the flyer guy.

Speaker A:

And I say, that is, I don't want to be known as the DJ that just post his flyers to where he's going to be at.

Speaker A:

I want to give my audience more, like, something to watch.

Speaker A:

Like, not just, oh, he posted a flyer.

Speaker A:

Excuse me.

Speaker A:

He posted a flyer.

Speaker A:

And I' ma like it.

Speaker A:

And this is where we go, go.

Speaker A:

And that.

Speaker A:

s all I was doing from, like,:

Speaker A:

I was just posting my events.

Speaker A:

I wasn't posting content.

Speaker A:

And I told Jerry, like, man, we gotta give the audience more, like, whatever.

Speaker A:

We can do random places.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna just do mashup videos and just, like, see if they go.

Speaker A:

And we were just doing them in random spots.

Speaker A:

And then I just had this weird idea.

Speaker A:

I was just like.

Speaker A:

Like, man, I think I was watching YouTube and I seen, like, this Russian DJ DJing out of a trunk for, like, eight hours.

Speaker A:

Like, not even eight hours.

Speaker A:

Probably like, two.

Speaker A:

I'm probably over exaggerating, like, two hours.

Speaker A:

And I was watching his whole set, and I thought that was dope.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, let's do that in a short form.

Speaker A:

Like, let's figure that out.

Speaker A:

Like, let's do that in short form, but let's do it our way.

Speaker A:

Because I already wanted to DJ out of a trunk in, well, truck.

Speaker A:

Sorry.

Speaker A:

And originally, I just never seen anybody do it.

Speaker A:

So when I seen him do it, I was like, oh, yeah, we can do that shit.

Speaker A:

So I hit up Jerry and I hit my boy John.

Speaker A:

And we just shot, like, it was like a Kendrick mashup with Kick Push by.

Speaker A:

By Lupe Fiasco.

Speaker A:

And it went.

Speaker A:

It went crazy a little bit.

Speaker A:

It really did.

Speaker A:

It really did well.

Speaker A:

And I actually got, like, a lot of bookings off of it.

Speaker A:

And more I got seen in more other people's eyes.

Speaker A:

And I started thinking to myself, like, bro, what if we welcome artists on here, too?

Speaker A:

Like, that would be crazy.

Speaker A:

And Malachi was one of the first people, and we did him.

Speaker A:

And then the next person was Malakai Shantae, and Hokage Simon.

Speaker A:

I don't know if you guys seen that one.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that was the first one that went Viral, which was Crush.

Speaker A:

And it was like the second video we made with an artist.

Speaker A:

And I was like, okay, I might have something.

Speaker B:

We may have something really honest.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So after that, man, we were just like.

Speaker A:

We just kept cranking them out.

Speaker A:

And like I said, it was.

Speaker A:

It was.

Speaker A:

It was fun.

Speaker A:

But then it became hard sometimes because, you know, like, sometimes you'll.

Speaker A:

Videos weren't doing that great.

Speaker A:

Sometimes you had to move dates because, you know, the truck wasn't free or this person wasn't free.

Speaker A:

It just became hard.

Speaker A:

And I started thinking, like, man, like, I'm kind of what we were talking about, balancing it all.

Speaker A:

I still gotta balance DJ Kenzo, the brand.

Speaker A:

I still gotta balance my shit for the Sacrament Kings.

Speaker A:

I still gotta balance being a DJ for the Wrestle.

Speaker A:

So I was like, man, balance.

Speaker A:

Like, if I gotta cut one, which one would I cut?

Speaker A:

And I thought to myself, like, you know what, bro?

Speaker A:

There's no need to cut anything.

Speaker A:

You're gonna be fine.

Speaker A:

Let's keep going and just make it work.

Speaker A:

And that's when Tio hit us up and, you know, we back up.

Speaker A:

So, I mean, we weren't really never down.

Speaker A:

I think I was just down.

Speaker B:

Yeah, spirits were down.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

No, but that's what you need sometimes.

Speaker B:

Like, for us, we would get the same way.

Speaker B:

It was literally the week we were just.

Speaker B:

We were all talking, like, we need to change things up.

Speaker B:

We, like, all felt some type of way.

Speaker B:

Maybe we should go back to just doing videos by ourself because we're not getting the views we're getting.

Speaker B:

And then what?

Speaker B:

That week we get a video that hit our first million or something like that on Instagram?

Speaker B:

Yeah, it was like, all right, hold on.

Speaker A:

Maybe.

Speaker B:

Maybe we're, you know, maybe we're stressing a little bit too much, you know?

Speaker B:

And like that, bro, it's like.

Speaker B:

Like, yeah, just give it.

Speaker B:

Give it a second to breathe something.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Real talk.

Speaker A:

Because social media is like.

Speaker A:

I was talking to my sister about this and my.

Speaker A:

My cousin.

Speaker A:

Like, social media and streaming services are very similar to where it's.

Speaker A:

You're throwing that out there and you just.

Speaker A:

Your hands are up.

Speaker A:

Like, as a dj, like, it's different.

Speaker A:

I can DJ in a crowd and know where to go and, like, what to do.

Speaker A:

Once you put that content out, you don't know what the fuck's gonna happen.

Speaker A:

So it's like, sometimes it's gonna hit, sometimes it's not.

Speaker A:

Sometimes it's gonna resonate with millions.

Speaker A:

Sometimes it may just resonate with those 50 people that you was cool with and worked with.

Speaker A:

But doesn't mean that it's anything less.

Speaker A:

It just means that hey man, this, this video just didn't hit everybody and maybe they need to see it again.

Speaker A:

Maybe you just need to delete it and see it again.

Speaker A:

But man, it's, it's, it's a, it's an ongoing battle for sure until you get to, you know, where a la Russell is at or where a young Tio is at or where like you know, Steve, Aoki or Diplo, all these crazy names are at.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, that's when it's like, oh, you have consistent eyes following you.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

But I think it's, it's better this way, the longer way because if you get those eyes, it's going to mean a little bit more more and you're gonna really take care of it.

Speaker B:

And I think there's something to say for like when we feel like it's drying up, there's somebody watching that you might not notice.

Speaker B:

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Cuz that's always when somebody reaches out that you're like, oh, oh.

Speaker B:

Excitement comes back.

Speaker B:

Like you said young to.

Speaker B:

You're feeling like things are going down a little bit.

Speaker B:

And that's the time when he reached out like, yo, crazy, let's hop it on.

Speaker B:

It's, it's always, it's always, you know, like you said earlier, God's timing, it's his path and you just follow the way it's supposed to go.

Speaker B:

It all works out right?

Speaker A:

Real talk.

Speaker A:

And it's also about the people you surround yourself with.

Speaker A:

Like Splash does these live sessions in his at the compound in Vallejo and it's crazy and we did to and then the week after to hits me.

Speaker A:

So if I'm not there with Splash and probably he doesn't, you know, talk to Tio about it a little bit and because sometimes when they come I don't really tell them what I have.

Speaker A:

Like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

That's Splash's.

Speaker A:

But Splash is such a good dude, dude.

Speaker A:

He's always putting it in people's ears like what.

Speaker A:

What we got going on outside of his stuff.

Speaker A:

And man, like that's once again God because I, I consider Splash like Godsend.

Speaker A:

Like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

Like that's a friend of God.

Speaker A:

Like he.

Speaker B:

Oh for sure.

Speaker A:

Feel me.

Speaker A:

That's a real God brother for show.

Speaker B:

So no, even the he did for us, bro.

Speaker B:

He was our second episode this season.

Speaker A:

That's fine.

Speaker B:

And to let Us, like, you know, they were shooting some.

Speaker B:

They were shooting some live sessions.

Speaker B:

He let us pull through and, you know, just to let us, like, you know, watch it, you know, and everything.

Speaker B:

He let us set up there, shoot it there.

Speaker B:

He helped us.

Speaker B:

He let us use one of his cameras.

Speaker B:

He's like, no, let's set this.

Speaker B:

He helped us set everything up.

Speaker B:

Bro was just like, so dope, so welcoming, so nice.

Speaker B:

Even Malachi, like you said, bro, stopped.

Speaker B:

We were trying to, like, kind of wiggle our way to the back and not like, bother anybody, like, just kind of be not seen.

Speaker B:

And Malachi just stops, stands up, walks over to us, shakes our hand, introduces himself.

Speaker B:

And I was like, damn.

Speaker B:

I didn't want nobody to stop what they're doing.

Speaker B:

But it was like, it was dope to see just how welcoming the whole.

Speaker B:

The whole team wasn't.

Speaker B:

Just to see that whole.

Speaker B:

The whole community and what it's.

Speaker B:

What's coming from it is just so dope, bro.

Speaker A:

Super beautiful.

Speaker A:

It's like, thank you, bro.

Speaker A:

And I'm so grateful to be a part of that community because, like, I mean, you know how this industry is, bro.

Speaker A:

It's like, you don't find people like that.

Speaker A:

And it was like, for eight years of my DJ career going nine now, it's just I didn't have that, like, you know, so I didn't really run to community, like, if that makes sense.

Speaker A:

I kind of stayed away from it because, you know, I would run to community and then I'll be met at, like, the devil's door.

Speaker A:

Sometimes was the big way people act.

Speaker A:

And, man, just like, just finding or them finding me or however it was, you know, it's just.

Speaker A:

It's.

Speaker A:

It was so meant to be, bro.

Speaker A:

Like, I resonate with those guys a lot and we relate a lot.

Speaker A:

And it's like, they're really my brothers, for real.

Speaker A:

They're hella cool people.

Speaker A:

I never heard anyone that said anything bad about them yet, and I don't think I ever will.

Speaker A:

So they're.

Speaker A:

They're cool people.

Speaker B:

Like I said, it was just one night.

Speaker B:

But just what.

Speaker B:

From what I observed, everybody was super welcoming and dope, bro.

Speaker B:

And it's like, like I said, you guys all just seemed like you're all pushing a good, positive message and.

Speaker B:

And like, bringing back to your city.

Speaker B:

Like, there's something to say about you're bringing this back to your city.

Speaker B:

Like a touchable thing for younger creatives and people who look up to you to be like, hey, this is something I could shoot for.

Speaker B:

You know that's realistic.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Where it's like, sometimes, like, I. I mean, you probably feel the same way, like, when you're coming up where you didn't have as many of those.

Speaker A:

Not at all.

Speaker B:

To be able to create that opportunity for the younger creative is dope.

Speaker A:

Thank you, bro.

Speaker A:

That means a lot.

Speaker A:

Like, like you said, sometimes you don't see that.

Speaker A:

Sometimes I. I'll do something in my city and I'll be.

Speaker A:

I'll feel like, man, I'm like, man, I hope I'm not being, like, this arrogant, just, like, thinking, like, man, let me throw this event and people go, come.

Speaker A:

Because I'm DJ Kenzo.

Speaker A:

I'm in Stockton.

Speaker A:

Like, I want it to be a space to where, like, man, like.

Speaker A:

Like, hey, if you have a camera come out, shoot like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, like, and I shoot.

Speaker A:

That's actually a. I may keep.

Speaker A:

Like, I've done it a lot, but, like, I may just open it to, like, hey, everyone, bring a camera.

Speaker A:

Shoot.

Speaker B:

Like, if you have, like.

Speaker A:

Like, a video and stuff.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, I just want to keep growing as an artist to where when I do come back to the city, it means a lot more because, I mean, if you don't do something for your community, then you can't expect your community to show up for you.

Speaker A:

And I want to keep doing stuff for my community because, I mean, bro, they raised me.

Speaker A:

Stockton is always seen in this light in a negative way.

Speaker A:

And I want to be one of those lights that come out the city where it's just like, okay, we may have this person that's on that time, but, hey, we do have DJ Kenzo, who's on this time.

Speaker A:

So, like, kind of similar to the Russell.

Speaker A:

The Russell is that for Vallejo, it's really helped the city and made people.

Speaker A:

Oh, Bun B came to Vallejo from, like.

Speaker B:

And that happened, like, a week after we were talking about it on Splash.

Speaker B:

We said, hey, get Mike J. Splash Bakery was crazy on the episode.

Speaker B:

It was like, damn.

Speaker B:

That happened like, a week, week later.

Speaker A:

So, wow, bro, it's so crazy.

Speaker A:

It's like, bro, I'm DJing.

Speaker A:

And me and my fiance were.

Speaker A:

She came with me to the backyard show, and they said, mike Jones is supposed to be there.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, where is he?

Speaker A:

And bro, to the right of me by the DJ room, this is dude with a hoodie and glasses and headphones on, and I'm just spit.

Speaker A:

He tapped me up, and I had no idea who he was.

Speaker A:

Like, he dapped Me up.

Speaker A:

And I was just like.

Speaker A:

I looked at my fiance.

Speaker A:

I'm like, who is that?

Speaker A:

And she was like, I don't know.

Speaker A:

You got a hoodie on and glasses.

Speaker A:

I'm like, oh, yeah, I can't really tell.

Speaker A:

And then for some odd reason, I heard him talk.

Speaker A:

Well, not odd reason, like just.

Speaker A:

Just a random reason.

Speaker A:

I heard him talk and I heard this thick ass Texas accent and I was just like, what the fuck?

Speaker A:

And then five minutes later, Russ goes, I got a special guest for us.

Speaker A:

Who?

Speaker A:

And I was like, my Jones.

Speaker A:

I looked to the right and he's walking to the stage.

Speaker A:

I'm like, bro, bro, this is crazy.

Speaker A:

Mike Jones.

Speaker A:

And the reason why he dapped me up is.

Speaker A:

Cause I forgot what I was doing.

Speaker A:

I did some weird.

Speaker A:

Not weird.

Speaker A:

I guess it was a great transition.

Speaker A:

Cause the crowd went crazy and he went crazy and he just dapped me up.

Speaker A:

Was just like, that was it.

Speaker A:

And I was just like, okay, it's a dope homie that appreciates dope DJing.

Speaker A:

But it was Mike Chubbs that appreciated dope DJ.

Speaker A:

So back to what I was saying.

Speaker A:

I just hope that we, we can bring more of those to Stockton.

Speaker A:

Like we got the Stockton arena and they bring a lot of dope stuff, but man, that'd be really cool if we brought stuff outside the arena, like block parties or intimate events.

Speaker A:

Like, we can bring stuff to the arena, but like, let's like make it more consistent to where it's not people coming to the tail end of their careers, it's people in the prime of their careers, you know?

Speaker A:

So, I mean, we had some really dope acts coming to Stockton, but I want to make it to where it's like someone from our city did that and now this person blew up and he's still coming back and he's having these crazy shows.

Speaker B:

So like, yeah, that's dope because like, you see it even with the wrestling, you see it extends, it extends beyond Vallejo, definitely.

Speaker B:

It gets into the whole Bay Area, it gets into Sacramento.

Speaker B:

Everybody becomes expired.

Speaker B:

I mean, inspired by that, you know, and they think I could do it too type thing.

Speaker B:

To be able to see it in your own city.

Speaker B:

That shit's inspirational, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So like, you just gotta, you gotta keep going, cuz it's gonna happen, bro.

Speaker B:

I. I just hope just to start, bro.

Speaker A:

That's the start.

Speaker A:

It's like, that's crazy that like T came.

Speaker A:

Cony has come.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker A:

Young Bari just came like, you know, like.

Speaker A:

And I'm hoping That continues.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, I remember reading the comments in Tik Tok.

Speaker A:

It's like, Dud was just like, oh, why did Teo come to Stockton?

Speaker A:

Like, why not?

Speaker A:

Like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

But that's.

Speaker A:

That's what, like, I'm trying to create it, like, to where it's just like, our city's just like, oh, yeah, we bring that here because of out the trunk, or we bring that here because of DJ Kenzo and friends or DJ Kenzo and the Ken folks.

Speaker A:

We bring that here because of those things.

Speaker A:

And it's like.

Speaker A:

Or we just bring that here because now there's a young dude who's coming up who's inspired by me or inspired by Don Ques.

Speaker A:

And now they want to bring more shows out here in a light that no one has ever seen before.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, how can we keep.

Speaker A:

Like, the.

Speaker A:

Russell's only one person that does that for the V. I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a lot more people coming up.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

And, bro, he's already doing that with his team.

Speaker A:

Like, I get to work with this guy like, what, three, four times out the week.

Speaker A:

Like, true.

Speaker A:

And I just be, man, studying, bro.

Speaker A:

Studying and just applying and applying and applying and just, you know, like, I don't really.

Speaker A:

I try not to ask for much from him, but I just hope that, you know, every now and then he does see, like, you know, what he's doing is an inspiration to all of us.

Speaker A:

For real?

Speaker B:

Not for real.

Speaker B:

For real, bro.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And, you know, you could see directly the people he's impacting.

Speaker B:

He's having impact others and stuff like that.

Speaker B:

And it's going to be the same thing you're going to see because there's so much talent in Stockton and the world doesn't even.

Speaker B:

Doesn't even get to see a pinch.

Speaker A:

Of it, you know, it's just like, no, like, man, I hope the podcast doesn't get like.

Speaker A:

But like, no, no, like, I'm not going to say anything crazy, but, like, no knock to like, the.

Speaker B:

The.

Speaker A:

The, like the main rappers that are coming out of Stockton, like, like, they're doing amazing dope.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But it's just like, we do have another side that isn't on that time.

Speaker A:

They're on a whole different type of time that.

Speaker A:

Where it's like, preaching different type of, like, preaching different type of lyrics and what they.

Speaker A:

What they got going on.

Speaker A:

Like, and that's.

Speaker A:

That's what's so dope about our city.

Speaker A:

Like, you can Hear ebk, jb.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Now you can hear Slo Be rest in peace to him.

Speaker A:

But you can also hear a Don Quez.

Speaker A:

You can also hear a Haiti baby, a dad Dex, myself.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Carlos Bryant.

Speaker A:

I just name, like, six different genres, like, of music.

Speaker A:

Like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, yes.

Speaker A:

Like, Don is hip hop, Carlos is hip hop, and dad Dex is hip hop.

Speaker A:

But, man, they're hip hop in their own way.

Speaker B:

Totally different avenues, you know.

Speaker B:

And then you got even Peezy, who's in a different avenue.

Speaker B:

And we were talking to PZ on our episode about this, the same thing.

Speaker B:

And just seeing, like, just how much, like, you know, he inspires people around the areas.

Speaker B:

And it's like, if people.

Speaker B:

I just wish the world saw, like, all the talent that it is in Stockton, Sacramento, because there is so many people that are pushing a good message.

Speaker B:

They.

Speaker B:

They have a great story to tell, and, you know, they're really doing dope.

Speaker B:

And I think, you know, what they've seen is only a fraction of.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, man, like, just come over and hear the diversity.

Speaker A:

Like, like, you may hear another message that may resonate with you, and it may not be on the positive side, but, hey, it's a message.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

That's still dope, you know, I still hope you, like, you love that message.

Speaker A:

Just know there's a. I. I always compare Stockton to Virginia.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Stockton and Virginia to me are like.

Speaker A:

Cause, like, there's Pusha T, there's Chris Brown, there's Missy Elliott, there's Pharrell, there's the Neptune, there's Timberland.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

So it's like, man, like, I always wanted Stockton to be similar to that when.

Speaker A:

Or even like, a Compton, but I always resonated more with Virginia just because, I don't know, growing up.

Speaker A:

I mean, it's pretty cool that, like, the EBK dudes have created that sound now.

Speaker A:

And that's what we are known for, because for a long time, we didn't have a sound.

Speaker A:

But growing up, I thought we were a boom bap rap city, because that's all I heard.

Speaker A:

Like, all I heard was like, boom bap rap.

Speaker A:

Like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

My homie Lennon and stuff like that.

Speaker A:

You know, like DJ Expo, my homie Big B.

Speaker A:

Like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, there's so many names that, like, I'm probably like, like Steve Spiffler.

Speaker A:

Like, these are names that, like, a lot of people don't even, like, know.

Speaker A:

But, like, man, these are some names that, like, I grew up watching and that were fucking legends, bro.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, I really thought that's what like Stockton was, was like real lyricism.

Speaker A:

Real like sampled with.

Speaker A:

With hard hip hop drums.

Speaker A:

I thought that's what we were for the longest time.

Speaker A:

And then I started to realize and go outside and was like, damn.

Speaker B:

I can hella relate to that.

Speaker B:

Because I felt the same thing about Sacramento growing up.

Speaker B:

Like seeing the, you know, just the younger group of like, you had the Cyrus's Harris Redmonds, like a lot of that, like boom bap hip hip hop.

Speaker B:

And then you.

Speaker B:

You had Mozzy.

Speaker B:

Mozzy come up with just Mozzy and laugh.

Speaker B:

And these guys come up that were totally different.

Speaker B:

And everybody's like, oh, that's Sacramento music.

Speaker B:

And to me, Sacramento music was something totally different.

Speaker A:

I thought the same thing too about Sack.

Speaker A:

Like, I thought Sack was like a whole.

Speaker A:

When Mozzie came out, I was like, what the.

Speaker A:

Like, I was so confused because Sack was known for something else for me.

Speaker A:

Like, like, like, man, I don't know why I'm missing out his name right now.

Speaker A:

Y' all know who plus Money is?

Speaker B:

Yeah, See, Money.

Speaker A:

I don't know why I said, but like, C was dope.

Speaker A:

He was C at first.

Speaker A:

That's how I knew of him.

Speaker A:

And bro, I had to see these, bro.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I had to see.

Speaker A:

I went to one of his concerts.

Speaker A:

We need to have you out the truck.

Speaker A:

By the way, bro, he's so dope.

Speaker A:

Like, DJ Epic was another dope.

Speaker A:

Like DJ Epic was like, bro, he was, man.

Speaker A:

And not even was.

Speaker A:

He still is.

Speaker A:

I don't like speaking pastance of, you know, the living, but like, man, we had, like, for me personally, like, my favorite DJs was Jazzy Jeff, Miles Menina, DJ Premier, DJ Puffy, and Epic.

Speaker A:

Epic was like, he was crazy to me because he was this, like, this dope, crazy dj, but also dope producer.

Speaker A:

And he was from Sacramento.

Speaker A:

And I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker A:

And then he had this event called Motown Mondays.

Speaker A:

And I remember going when I first turned like 21.

Speaker A:

And I was just like, damn.

Speaker A:

Because I was so used to like city nights and shit.

Speaker A:

When I went to Motown Mondays, it was like Motown music, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, like, so many different songs was coming out like Evelyn Champagne.

Speaker A:

It was like so many different records coming out of those nights.

Speaker A:

And I was like, damn, people can go up to this in the club.

Speaker A:

He introduced that for me and I was just like, man, I want, like, I want something like this.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, I want to curate something like that and so many people were inspired by him.

Speaker A:

And, man, like, I thought that's what Zach was like, that.

Speaker A:

That real hip hop, vinyl DJ type.

Speaker A:

But, man, then Mozzie came and I was like, I guess not.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

No, because even if you look back, like, to even like Brother lynch, like, I understand, but he was still a lyricist.

Speaker B:

Like, you know, that strange music whole was like lyricism.

Speaker B:

So to me, I just always looked at Sacramento very lyricism, which Mozzie is.

Speaker A:

Yeah, lyricism.

Speaker B:

And I. I guess I didn't realize that right away.

Speaker B:

I looked at it like it was a different stuff.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Same thing with like.

Speaker A:

Same thing with some of our guys.

Speaker A:

Like, Haiti Baby's a real lyricist, bro.

Speaker A:

Yeah, he's crazy.

Speaker A:

Like, Jaebo is like, he has a.

Speaker A:

He has a dope style to him.

Speaker A:

Like, you listen to things that he was saying.

Speaker A:

Like, it's interesting.

Speaker A:

Like, I think those things are still resonate with them too, but it's just in a different way.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So it's like, I guess everyone still has There's.

Speaker A:

I guess, like those.

Speaker A:

Those same, like, damn, what's the word I'm looking for?

Speaker A:

But I guess those.

Speaker A:

I want to say morals, but like, like, we were raised off the same.

Speaker B:

Punchlines and like that, but it's just sonically wrapped in different.

Speaker A:

Different ways.

Speaker A:

They're, like, producing different packages or like, stuff like that.

Speaker A:

So, man, it's been really cool to see, like, the evolution of Stockton, the Sack, but I'm really excited to see, like, what we can continue to curate on a mainstream level.

Speaker A:

It just takes longer for us because it's, you know, like I said, Stockton is known for one thing.

Speaker A:

So when you're rapping that one thing, of course everyone's gonna.

Speaker A:

But like, when you're rapping something else, like, I, bro, I made.

Speaker A:

I have a song called Couche, and it's a like, Afro House song.

Speaker A:

Everyone's like, that motherfucker's from Stockton.

Speaker A:

Ain't no way.

Speaker A:

Like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

But, like.

Speaker A:

But it's gonna be dope when it go cra.

Speaker A:

Continues to go crazy and people see like, damn, that fool's from Stockton.

Speaker A:

That's dope.

Speaker A:

I didn't know that we had different type of like, like inicities living here and making music like that.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

And I think a big part of that is that we.

Speaker B:

We lack the infrastructure and the platforms to.

Speaker B:

To even spot spotlight those things to so to see things.

Speaker B:

You're doing the thing we're.

Speaker B:

We're trying to do.

Speaker B:

And everybody's trying to do different things, but I feel like it is kind of like slowly but surely going to shed light to those, you know, those things that also are in these places.

Speaker B:

Because there's so many dope things packaged in a million different ways.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you know, it's just, it's all about the world being able to actually see it, see it.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

That's inevitable.

Speaker B:

It'll get out there eventually.

Speaker B:

It's just platforms like yours, platforms like ours that are going to help people.

Speaker A:

See definitely just the consistency of them.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, I think we all got to just keep going.

Speaker A:

And then eventually like 106 and park wasn't built overnight.

Speaker A:

And it's like that, that platform opened the doors up for a lot of music videos and stuff like that.

Speaker A:

And we see Splash doing that.

Speaker A:

Like Flash is opening up back.

Speaker A:

Like people are making videos again.

Speaker A:

Like, it was kind of like we're at a weird place at one point and now we have the Splashes.

Speaker A:

You know, we have.

Speaker A:

Damn, what's that one dude's name?

Speaker A:

I forgot his name now it's like leaving my brain.

Speaker A:

But he did some stuff like Lil Yachty and stuff like that.

Speaker A:

Yeah, there's a lot of names out there when it comes to videography.

Speaker A:

My homie, Wave Visuals from Modesto, he's another dude that like, is paving that way.

Speaker A:

So it's like, I mean, it just takes consistency and, and the right people, the right minds and stuff because, you know, they'll be those sometimes who get that, that notoriety and that love and it's just like they don't want to share that with no nobody straight to their head, you feel me?

Speaker A:

Go straight to the hair.

Speaker A:

It's like in an arrogant way.

Speaker A:

That's why like sometimes I always pray for, for God to humble me in every way because no one else can.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, I hate when people like, humble yourself.

Speaker A:

Nigga, you can't humble me.

Speaker A:

So why would you say that?

Speaker A:

Like, like God in the universe should.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

So I always pray for God to like, you know, help me be open minded.

Speaker A:

I look myself in the mirror every day and be like, you need to be a better you.

Speaker A:

You need to be a better you.

Speaker A:

You need to be a.

Speaker A:

You need to be a better you.

Speaker A:

You need to be a better you.

Speaker A:

I said it like every day because it's the truth.

Speaker A:

Like, and with that, you know, comes.

Speaker A:

When you do have those moments of like, you know, success, you express it in a different way.

Speaker A:

Like, like 21.

Speaker A:

If I was 21 with $50,000.

Speaker A:

I don't know what I would do.

Speaker A:

Like, probably do some crazy.

Speaker A:

Probably would have blew it all, bro.

Speaker A:

Blew it all.

Speaker A:

Or like, I don't know, told the homie some.

Speaker A:

Some dumb.

Speaker A:

Like, just to impress the homies.

Speaker A:

At that age, I was still trying to impress the homies.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't like strip clubs, but my homies do.

Speaker A:

And I probably would have been like, hey, let's get $20,000 and go to the strip club, knowing damn well I don't like strip clubs.

Speaker A:

No offense to any strippers.

Speaker B:

I'm on that same level.

Speaker B:

Let's talk about that.

Speaker B:

Let's talk about that strip club.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I just.

Speaker A:

You said, oh, God.

Speaker A:

I just, like, it's.

Speaker A:

It's no knock to, like, what they do do there.

Speaker A:

Like, if that's what you got to do to make some money, hey, nothing against the strippers.

Speaker A:

It's just the, like, I don't see a purpose in going.

Speaker B:

Like, the environment can feel a little weird.

Speaker A:

It's just like, dog, I gotta throw money for you to shake ass.

Speaker B:

Like, they come up acting hella nice.

Speaker B:

I'm like, I don't know you.

Speaker A:

I don't know you want my money, bro, and that's great.

Speaker B:

Get your hustle on, bro.

Speaker A:

That's great.

Speaker A:

Get your hustle on.

Speaker A:

But like, damn.

Speaker A:

Like, I can just hopefully just find a woman out there, take her on a date, we can talk, express to each other and.

Speaker A:

And confinement become friends, and then eventually we get closer.

Speaker A:

And then I see you naked and I didn't have to send you money.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I have to throw ones.

Speaker A:

But like, man, like, shout out to the strippers, though.

Speaker A:

Like, they're doing, you know, what they gotta do.

Speaker A:

But, man, I just.

Speaker A:

I personally don't like strip clubs because I just.

Speaker A:

I really don't like spending money on, like, on useless things.

Speaker A:

Not saying women are useless, but like.

Speaker A:

But like, the.

Speaker B:

The reason why your woman, bro, like, hella mad, bro.

Speaker B:

I'm like, I can save you.

Speaker B:

Oh, I take you far away from here.

Speaker B:

Why are you here?

Speaker A:

Why are you here.

Speaker B:

Bro?

Speaker B:

I'mma be honest, bro.

Speaker B:

The one thing for me is.

Speaker B:

Is just becomes hella, like, weird and fake because it's like, right.

Speaker B:

Why you call me handsome four times the first time?

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker B:

You ain't talking to me, like, talking.

Speaker A:

About outside of here.

Speaker B:

Feel like a Sims game or something.

Speaker B:

Like, it just don't feel real.

Speaker A:

It's like, okay, I think I've only been to like, two strip clubs, like, and I Haven't been to a strip club, obviously since getting engaged and so love you, baby.

Speaker A:

But like, I'll never, never really want to go.

Speaker A:

But like, man, I think the first time I went, I did the whole like, you know, go to the room with the girl.

Speaker A:

Like, I was just like.

Speaker A:

When I was in there, I remember, literally it became like a therapy set.

Speaker B:

She started talking about your life to you.

Speaker A:

Because, like, I was sitting there and she was.

Speaker A:

I was just like, hey, you don't have to do all that.

Speaker A:

And then I started thinking, I started expressing to her, like, I don't even know why I'm back here, to be honest with you.

Speaker A:

Like, you just did a really good job of cons, like, persuade me to be back here.

Speaker A:

And then she sat down and she's like, so, like, what's on your mind?

Speaker A:

I'm like.

Speaker A:

And I told her what was on my mind and we were just talking about strip clubs for a minute and talking about why we were here.

Speaker A:

I started talking about, like, my.

Speaker A:

My experience.

Speaker A:

My like, dating experiences.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And bro, she was just like, do you want your money back?

Speaker A:

I'm like, no, you keep it.

Speaker A:

This is actually really, like, would have.

Speaker B:

Been more expensive anyway.

Speaker B:

I only gave you 40.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Yeah, go ahead, keep it.

Speaker A:

Like, as long as we ain't doing that weird.

Speaker A:

Like, we.

Speaker A:

Let's.

Speaker A:

This is actually really.

Speaker A:

If strip club was like that, maybe.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's a great idea.

Speaker A:

Is it strip club therapy, bro?

Speaker A:

If.

Speaker A:

If you're looking for some extra money and you are a therapist and, and, and you're.

Speaker A:

Hey, you just.

Speaker A:

You want to make some more money?

Speaker A:

Hey, why not have a therapeutic strip club?

Speaker B:

Come on, that'd be.

Speaker B:

Hey, the vibe set, right?

Speaker B:

You just sitting down talking.

Speaker A:

Anyways, just like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, she's dancing, but she's giving you advice.

Speaker A:

That's crazy.

Speaker B:

That'd be sick.

Speaker B:

Hey, low key.

Speaker B:

Cause they should damn near be giving psych degrees out of those strip clubs.

Speaker A:

Some of them are smart as.

Speaker B:

Like I'll ever see the movie.

Speaker B:

That's my boy scene in there.

Speaker B:

And he's like, some old ass man's in the strip club.

Speaker B:

And I forget the actress's name, but she's hella old.

Speaker B:

She's.

Speaker B:

I mean, no disrespect her.

Speaker B:

She's a little thicker.

Speaker B:

It's like a.

Speaker B:

But the whole premise of it is like a rundown ass strip club, right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And that's exactly what she's doing.

Speaker B:

He's like, they're drinking and like talking about his son and his Problems.

Speaker B:

And she's like, baby, you just got to do this and do that.

Speaker B:

She's like, just stripping the whole titties around.

Speaker B:

Let's make that a real thing.

Speaker A:

That'll be crazy.

Speaker A:

That's a great investment.

Speaker A:

That's a great investment.

Speaker A:

Investment.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't know how, like, the cancer go.

Speaker A:

I mean, I don't think the cancer.

Speaker A:

No, you can't cancel that.

Speaker A:

That's important.

Speaker B:

In Houston or Miami.

Speaker B:

That would go crazy, bro.

Speaker B:

Especially with the mental health illnesses out there.

Speaker A:

Some strippers are already in college already, and they're really intelligent people.

Speaker A:

Some of them are already using strip stripping to pay for their degree.

Speaker A:

Like, how about we just, like, expedite the situation?

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

You seeing strippers barbering now you're seeing strippers doing everything.

Speaker B:

Might as well get into therapy.

Speaker A:

Might as well, bro.

Speaker B:

Do some positive things.

Speaker B:

If you're a stripper going to college and you're interested, tap in.

Speaker B:

Hey, we got an idea for you.

Speaker A:

500, 000 for therapeutics.

Speaker B:

Hey, bro, I'm telling you, I think we.

Speaker B:

I think we go platinum with that.

Speaker A:

Double platinum in the hood.

Speaker A:

That's hella funny.

Speaker B:

Nah, but, bro, to circle back a little bit, I want to kind of get more into.

Speaker B:

I know we were talking about it before.

Speaker B:

Before the episode, but I wanted to kind of get back into the Sacramento Kings and just the experience and just.

Speaker B:

Because obviously we were all talking earlier.

Speaker B:

We're all big sports fans, so just want to kind of hear a little bit more about that, how it feels to be able to do something like that.

Speaker B:

And some of your best moments.

Speaker A:

Sorry, this is hella funny.

Speaker A:

Went from like, stripping.

Speaker A:

I hope they don't see this.

Speaker A:

And they're like, whoa, brother.

Speaker A:

Like, I mean, if they do, I'm grown.

Speaker A:

So it's like.

Speaker A:

But, man, like, actually dope.

Speaker B:

Let's.

Speaker B:

We'll cut that out.

Speaker B:

We'll talk about a different topic.

Speaker A:

I'm so sorry.

Speaker B:

Think about it.

Speaker B:

I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm such a.

Speaker A:

Like, everything that comes to my mind sometimes I speak it out.

Speaker A:

So, like, bro, I apologize for even talking about the show.

Speaker B:

No, that's my fault.

Speaker B:

Strip club.

Speaker B:

We'll cut the Sacramento Kings part so they don't hear.

Speaker B:

That's my.

Speaker B:

I heard you.

Speaker B:

I heard you say strip club.

Speaker B:

I'm like, yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker B:

He been saying this like, bro, I feel him.

Speaker B:

He's the one that'll try to stay back.

Speaker B:

It will be like it.

Speaker B:

I keep going, but I'm like, I'm not the one that's going in the back room.

Speaker B:

Like, the homies that are going in the back room aren't here.

Speaker A:

There's like, no need to.

Speaker A:

Like, I went there one time and I was just like, bro, why am I here?

Speaker A:

Like, that's me.

Speaker B:

That's how I felt the first time going.

Speaker B:

I was like, what am I supposed to do, bro?

Speaker A:

Like, I feel like you got to go to my bad.

Speaker A:

I got kind of hot.

Speaker A:

But like, yeah, I was like, why am I here?

Speaker A:

But, man, bro, but like, to answer your question about the key.

Speaker A:

Wait, should we not do.

Speaker B:

It's up to you, bro.

Speaker B:

I'm not sure we can cut that little KE part.

Speaker B:

Go to a totally different topic.

Speaker B:

It don't matter, bro.

Speaker A:

I mean, yeah.

Speaker A:

So you want me to answer the Key's question?

Speaker B:

The strip club part out too?

Speaker B:

We could cut whatever.

Speaker A:

It's whatever.

Speaker B:

It's all post production.

Speaker B:

So we're not.

Speaker B:

We're not.

Speaker A:

I don't mind it, bro.

Speaker A:

I. I actually love, like, just, you know, just talking.

Speaker A:

It's hella funny.

Speaker A:

But, man, DJ for the sacur Keys is like, bro, it's a dream on come true.

Speaker A:

It's like.

Speaker A:

You mean, it's.

Speaker A:

You guys are all from Sacramento.

Speaker A:

You guys know I'm from Stockton, but like, we're 30 minutes from sack, and Sack was like our, like, like New York.

Speaker A:

Like, if you're like, for all the east coast people out there, like, New Jersey is like, what, 30 minutes, 45 minutes away from New York.

Speaker A:

That was sacked to me growing up.

Speaker A:

Like, I looked at Sack like that.

Speaker A:

Like a.

Speaker A:

Like a really big city and on like the national, like, like csn.

Speaker A:

Is that what the Kings used to play on or something like that?

Speaker A:

Or.

Speaker A:

Or California.

Speaker A:

California sports network.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So you should play on that network.

Speaker A:

And you know, if you are in a certain area, you either get the warriors or you get the Kings.

Speaker A:

Us being in Stockton, we get the.

Speaker A:

The Kings.

Speaker A:

So I thought, like, okay, this is the team to watch because that's what is shown on TV, like 10 or channel 34.

Speaker A:

And the Kings were always playing and it's like 30 minutes from our house.

Speaker A:

So I'm like.

Speaker A:

Or, sorry, 45 minutes if you're going to Arco.

Speaker A:

But like, yeah, it was just like a big thing for my family.

Speaker A:

Like, I was a real big Kings fan, like, so early and like, man, I remember that O2 series and just being heartbroken.

Speaker A:

That was my first heartbreak.

Speaker A:

And I remember my mom and dad consoling me, like, just being there for Me and man, they have a special.

Speaker A:

They're not Kings fans, but they have a special place.

Speaker A:

The Kings have a special place in their heart because how much I love the Kings and the Kings taught me passion, bro.

Speaker A:

They taught me passion and love early.

Speaker A:

Like, so growing up like that is being a Kings fan early and just, you know, Mike Bibby, Chris Weber, heel Turkalu, Scott Pollard, Peja, Gerald Wallace, bro, we had Gerald Wallace, bro, we had had Gerald Wallace.

Speaker A:

We had Kevin Martin at one point, like, we were going stupid.

Speaker A:

Too stupid.

Speaker B:

We had them big ass earrings going crazy.

Speaker A:

I was like hitting his ears.

Speaker A:

But like.

Speaker A:

But yeah, growing up and watching the Kings, I was just like, man, I want to, you know, play for them one day, you know?

Speaker A:

And then I grew up and realized I'm not really good at basketball.

Speaker B:

So let me DJ for him.

Speaker A:

So let me DJ for him.

Speaker A:

So, like, you know, my DJ career started and the first thing I'm thinking is just like.

Speaker A:

Like, I already knew that you can DJ for NBA teams.

Speaker A:

I've seen it.

Speaker A:

Like, DJ D Sharp was someone who I saw do that for the Warriors.

Speaker A:

I want to do that for the Sacramento Kings.

Speaker A:

I need to that for Sacramento Kings.

Speaker A:

I was speaking into existence and the G League team ended up going from Reno to Stockton.

Speaker A:

And I was just like, it's not the Sacramento Kings, but it is dope that we're having a G League team and now I want a DJ for the Stockton Kings.

Speaker A:

And I remember, like, just applying or this is.

Speaker A:

I was really, what is it?

Speaker A:

Arrogant.

Speaker A:

But, like, there was some arrogance to me at a young age, actually.

Speaker A:

I was like, I mean, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

Y' all be the judgment of this.

Speaker A:

It sounds pretty arrogant now that I'm saying out loud.

Speaker A:

But, like, they had.

Speaker A:

And sorry if I'm rambling for a minute to answer your question, but it's all gonna tie back in.

Speaker A:

But like, they had tryouts for the King's DJ or something like that.

Speaker A:

Or like, I think rehearsals or not rehearsals, but tryouts or like, you gotta submit something.

Speaker A:

And I was like, man, fuck all that.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna just DM them and say, like, I want to be the Stockton Kings DJ and hope they reply.

Speaker A:

They never reply.

Speaker B:

Said, maybe I gotta apply.

Speaker A:

So, like, I was just like, damn, maybe I should have.

Speaker A:

I missed the submission and everything.

Speaker A:

My homie, who actually I ended up working with, became the host because he actually went out and tried out and I don't even know who became the.

Speaker A:

I don't even.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I don't know who became the Stockton Kings DJ that year, but it wasn't me.

Speaker A:

So, like, I was just like, damn, all right, is what it is.

Speaker A:

You know, hopefully one day, you know, it worked.

Speaker A:

And my homie Shane from Cal Berkeley, he was the Cal Berkeley dj.

Speaker A:

And me and him got really cool because of our homie Brian.

Speaker A:

He introduced us and I couldn't.

Speaker A:

Maybe it was Brian or Brian, I don't know.

Speaker A:

I'm spacing out right now.

Speaker A:

But, like, my homie introduced us and we got really close and he ended up getting a job with the Stockton Kings.

Speaker A:

And when he got the job with the Stockton Kings, he started realizing like, man, I can't commute over to Stockton.

Speaker A:

So long story short, he, you know, ended up asking me and they ended up being like, hey, would you like to be our dj?

Speaker A:

And I was like, hell yeah.

Speaker A:

And I did a game.

Speaker A:

That game ran a really cool.

Speaker A:

They're like, we like this dude, he's a Stockton Kings dj.

Speaker A:

And I became the Stockton's dj.

Speaker A:

And then Covid hit.

Speaker A:

Long story short, when Covid hit, I was like, I'm never like, we lost our jobs.

Speaker A:

It's over.

Speaker A:

And, you know, they ended up opening it back up.

Speaker A:

And then a lot of Sacramento Kings execs and bosses came over to help build the Stockton Kings.

Speaker A:

And the vp, I could be messing up his title right now, but the vp my homie Aaron became, he became the VP over with the Stockton Kings.

Speaker A:

And he cleaned house.

Speaker A:

And I just kept calling the Stockton Kings over and over again, like, do I have my job back?

Speaker A:

Can I have my job back?

Speaker A:

Can I have my job back?

Speaker A:

And he was just like, man, like, he just kind of interviewed me on the phones, like, where are you from?

Speaker A:

I was like, I'm from Stockton.

Speaker A:

I went to Bear Creek, this and third.

Speaker A:

And he was like, man, I really want to rebuild this because you know, it's going to be tough.

Speaker A:

Like, we're coming out of a Covid year and I want to do it with people who are from here.

Speaker A:

And if you got, since you guys already have experience, to bring you guys back and shout out to Aaron for doing that.

Speaker A:

Because him doing that got me in front of Mo, who is the head of operations over in Sacramento.

Speaker A:

And Mo saw me and he was just like, man, we need you in Sacramento asap.

Speaker A:

And it took a while and they eventually got me over there.

Speaker A:

Daniel Spackman helped groom me.

Speaker A:

He was another pivotal person, a part of that because he was also head of, of booking the DJs who were at the Sacramento Kings.

Speaker A:

And once I got you know, with him, he really liked me, too.

Speaker A:

And after that, bro, I was locked in.

Speaker A:

It's a long story, but, like, yeah, that's dope.

Speaker A:

It's always worth it.

Speaker B:

And congratulations as a Kings fan, because that has to be dope.

Speaker A:

I was like.

Speaker A:

When I walked in the arena, I felt like, you know, like, you seem like, yeah, when he's walking, I'm, like, looking up and I'm smelling the popcorn.

Speaker A:

Like, I think, bro.

Speaker A:

And it's like, I don't.

Speaker A:

I don't think I told anyone this, but, like, I went to the bathroom and I cried, bro.

Speaker A:

I just cried.

Speaker A:

Like, not tears of sadness, but tears of joy.

Speaker A:

I was.

Speaker A:

Because, like, my pops, bro, like, my pops was a really.

Speaker A:

Me and him related with basketball a lot.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And when I got the opportunity at the Stockton Kings, African parents are very, like, they always shoot for the star they want.

Speaker A:

If you get a B, you better get an A type shit.

Speaker A:

So, like, with the Stockton Kings, he was like, man, that's great, but I really want you to DJ for the Sacramento Kings.

Speaker A:

Like, that would be crazy.

Speaker A:

And at first I was like, man, dad, I'm over here.

Speaker A:

DJ for the stars.

Speaker B:

That's lit, too.

Speaker A:

But then I really tried to hear what he was saying, and he was just like, man, shoot for the stars.

Speaker A:

Why not?

Speaker A:

And I was just like, you know what?

Speaker A:

Let's do it.

Speaker A:

Let's shoot for the stars.

Speaker A:

But I always was doing the Stockton Kings without expectations of anything.

Speaker A:

I just did it and continued to do it because I really loved the.

Speaker A:

The team and I loved our city, and I wanted to do something special there.

Speaker A:

nger alive, he passed away in:

Speaker A:

Sorry to hear that.

Speaker A:

Appreciate that, bro.

Speaker A:

Like,:

Speaker A:

But, like, obviously, physically, he wasn't here, but it was.

Speaker A:

I still felt his spirit that day.

Speaker A:

And that's why I just went to the bathroom.

Speaker A:

I just, like, right.

Speaker A:

I just teared up.

Speaker B:

And that's beautiful.

Speaker A:

And I know it probably didn't like, a lot of people in that arena.

Speaker A:

It's like, whatever to them, but for me, man, that it, to this day, still means a lot.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm geeked for this season already.

Speaker B:

That's beautiful, bro.

Speaker B:

And it has to be of, like, a huge, like, bookmark of your life.

Speaker B:

Crazy.

Speaker B:

It's like showing that you're like, you're going the right.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

The right direction.

Speaker B:

You know, you're not where you want to be right away.

Speaker B:

Right away.

Speaker B:

But you.

Speaker B:

You thought this was just, you know, probably the end point of what you wanted, but now you're looking at like, this is just a start.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like, that's.

Speaker A:

I want Coachella.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, bro, just doing that was like, really dope.

Speaker A:

But, like, it also show my parents because like I said, my parents are African, so they only know doctor, teacher, lawyer.

Speaker A:

That's all they know.

Speaker A:

Like, so, like, or an accountant, because my dad was an accountant too.

Speaker A:

So like, my mom actually worked at Adobe.

Speaker A:

And so it's like really high jobs.

Speaker A:

And like, so to be a DJ is like, how, like, how are you gonna do that?

Speaker A:

Like, I never, like, I got uncles that are DJs, but they, you know, DJ weddings and they go back to their.

Speaker A:

The regular job.

Speaker A:

So seeing me do that full time and then getting those opportunities, it was like, oh, wow.

Speaker A:

So this is how he's gonna do it.

Speaker A:

So, man, like, you know, I'm so thankful for that organization.

Speaker A:

Like, the whole King's organization from Sacramento to Stockton, it's.

Speaker A:

It's truly a family.

Speaker A:

And, man, they take care of their people for surely that's dope too.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's good to hear.

Speaker B:

Because I was about to write him off if he said anything.

Speaker B:

They already on my shit list, man.

Speaker B:

Bro, like, get ready, dear.

Speaker A:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

The organization on that part.

Speaker B:

I can't.

Speaker B:

I can't.

Speaker B:

He said, how you talking about that?

Speaker A:

The organization.

Speaker A:

Organization on that part.

Speaker A:

They're doing what they can.

Speaker A:

They're doing their best like that they can.

Speaker A:

But like, I guess the organization, like gay mobs and like, entertainment, man, I love those.

Speaker A:

Definitely, like, the organization on that part, man, I love them.

Speaker A:

They're doing great things.

Speaker A:

They're doing the best they can.

Speaker A:

Is it some things that the fans like?

Speaker A:

I mean, but at the same time, there's a lot of things that, like, I didn't like the Mike Bibby and Jason Williams trade, and that eventually became a dope trade.

Speaker A:

I didn't like DeMarcus Cousins getting sent off.

Speaker A:

And then we got Foxy and Foxy built.

Speaker A:

And I don't know.

Speaker A:

I'm always the wrong person to ask about these.

Speaker B:

No, you're 100, right?

Speaker A:

I try to be positive, but like, man.

Speaker A:

And also too, I'm also work for that organization.

Speaker B:

I talk, but I ain't never gonna leave.

Speaker A:

Hey, I feel it, bro.

Speaker B:

I feel it.

Speaker B:

I ain't never gonna leave.

Speaker A:

I feel it.

Speaker A:

I'm like.

Speaker A:

It's like, Raider fans, bro.

Speaker B:

That's me, too, but I got in the bow sticks.

Speaker A:

Oh, you're a Raider fan then.

Speaker B:

I'm an Oakland A's fan, Sacramento A's fan.

Speaker B:

God damn it.

Speaker B:

Where can I win?

Speaker B:

Who.

Speaker B:

Who raised me?

Speaker A:

God damn it, bro.

Speaker A:

I'm a Kings fan, a Niner fan, and a.

Speaker A:

And a Giants fan.

Speaker A:

Only wear the A's hat because I still love the A's.

Speaker A:

The A's are.

Speaker A:

I used to DJ for the A's, so, like, surely have to wear this hat sometimes.

Speaker A:

But, like.

Speaker A:

But like, yeah, bro.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

So I always, like, say this, like, with the Raider fans, right?

Speaker A:

Like, and Niner fans, to me are the most.

Speaker A:

I'm a Niner fan and I feel like I can say this.

Speaker A:

We're the most annoying fan base in the world.

Speaker A:

en't won a championship since:

Speaker A:

We've had many.

Speaker A:

We had, like, almost four super bowl losses, like, in my lifetime.

Speaker A:

It hurts.

Speaker A:

So I feel like a Raider fan and I feel like a Kings fan.

Speaker B:

But you guys are a little successful.

Speaker A:

But it's just like, is it successful because the Raiders made it to the.

Speaker A:

To the.

Speaker A:

To the Super bowl in:

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So it's like a.

Speaker A:

10 years, 15 years old, so it's.

Speaker B:

Like, not much of a difference.

Speaker B:

It's crazy, too, because my whole family's Niners fans and my.

Speaker B:

One of my closest friends is a Niner fan, too.

Speaker B:

They both.

Speaker B:

They arrogant.

Speaker A:

Arrogant.

Speaker B:

One thing about a Niger span is they will not handle you if you say that Brock Purdy isn't the most elite quarterback in the league, I swear to God.

Speaker B:

And see, as a Raiders fan, I'm like, okay, so Kings, Raiders, A's.

Speaker B:

I'm used to losing, you know, same, bro.

Speaker B:

I'm a fan for.

Speaker B:

I'm still a fan.

Speaker B:

Loyal, but I know what it is.

Speaker B:

It's like, I'm not the one go be like, Niners suck.

Speaker B:

Like, I talk because I know it pisses them off.

Speaker A:

I. I try not to say the Raiders suck because like I said, we.

Speaker A:

We still, like, even though we're not losing as much, we still lose in big games.

Speaker A:

Like, but, like, you know, shout out to the Giants, man, they gave me a, you know, World Series victory.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

Like:

Speaker A:

2012 or 20, like, yeah, I was alive for it.

Speaker A:

That's all I know.

Speaker A:

But like, yeah, like, they came through.

Speaker A:

They came through.

Speaker A:

But like the.

Speaker A:

Man, the NERs, bro, they.

Speaker A:

They hurt my heart a lot of the times, bro.

Speaker A:

And the Kings, I mean, we know about like.

Speaker A:

I just want to see the Beam more times.

Speaker B:

We don't need to be the best team in the league.

Speaker B:

I just want to see some ways, bro.

Speaker B:

I want to have some hope.

Speaker B:

Just give me some hope.

Speaker B:

That's all I care about.

Speaker A:

Let's get us back to the playoffs.

Speaker A:

I feel like this team will do that, like, for real.

Speaker A:

If, you know the Western Conference is in, you know, it just depends where the west goes.

Speaker A:

Like, the west is stacked.

Speaker B:

And that's the thing with the west is it fluctuates so much that it feels like it's hard to like really establish ourselves in the west sometimes.

Speaker A:

Real talk.

Speaker A:

Sometimes I wish that, like, I guess it was just mixed, you know, so more teams could make it to the playoffs or just more teams.

Speaker A:

It could be a fair shot, but man, if we were in the east, we would make it.

Speaker A:

We would have been made to playoffs.

Speaker B:

How many times have we been top 16 teams in the league but still never made the.

Speaker B:

The playoffs?

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And that's the thing.

Speaker B:

West is always just too good.

Speaker A:

You got so many teams, like, and even good teams that don't make it.

Speaker B:

Or even shitty teams that just play hella good for one season and end up third season, third seed like us, you know.

Speaker A:

It just happens, bro.

Speaker A:

It just happens when you have a really great season and then just other things happen where you're like, yeah, you try to make the team better, but it doesn't happen that way.

Speaker A:

Basketball is, is.

Speaker A:

Man, there's a lot of weird fortune with basketball.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, you got injuries, you have, you know, personal.

Speaker A:

Those guys are like, just seeing those guys every day I get to have a different perspective, like outside as a fan.

Speaker A:

Like sometimes those guys are coming in and they probably were just dealing with hell before coming in there.

Speaker A:

And you know, they're really trying or they're like.

Speaker A:

I remember one time I seen Sabonis during a pre game and I can tell he was tight from where I was at and I was just like, damn, bro, how'd you get a play today?

Speaker A:

And he was just like trying to stretch his back out as much as possible.

Speaker A:

Pause.

Speaker A:

But he was just trying to just get right for the game.

Speaker A:

And bro still had, like, a double double, but still, like, I remember we blew.

Speaker A:

I don't know what team we blew out, but we blew him out.

Speaker A:

And as soon as the fourth quarter hit, Coach Brown took him out to get rest.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, in his head, he was probably like, let's blow them out so I can get some rest and rest my back.

Speaker A:

But it's like, we don't see that as fans.

Speaker A:

We don't.

Speaker B:

We all just expect it's 100% against.

Speaker B:

100%.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

It's not that easy, you know?

Speaker B:

Like, and that's one thing.

Speaker B:

Like, when we.

Speaker B:

A couple years back, when I felt like we got better on paper, but we just, you know, did a lot worse.

Speaker B:

It was like.

Speaker B:

It's one of those things where it's like, you just.

Speaker B:

As a fan, it's.

Speaker B:

You're like, what the.

Speaker A:

What's going on?

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's just unpredictable.

Speaker B:

You got the mental challenges of being in the professional team and the mental challenges of being in a professional franchise that isn't as solidified as other professionals.

Speaker A:

It's not like Sacramento is a glory place to where people want to go.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

I mean, I think it's a great place for people to get cheap housing.

Speaker A:

So, like, for.

Speaker A:

For the millionaires that I'm not for us, but, like, for the millionaires and stuff.

Speaker A:

Eventually for us for sure.

Speaker A:

Like, yeah.

Speaker A:

I think.

Speaker A:

I think I kind of relate the.

Speaker A:

The King situation to our tour that we had recently.

Speaker A:

Like, there are some dates where we were, like, we would do a show and hit a flight right after, and I was like, damn.

Speaker A:

Like, my body hurts.

Speaker A:

Like, my soul kind of hurts.

Speaker A:

I miss my fiance.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, damn, this is probably what.

Speaker A:

And I remember.

Speaker A:

I remember I sent, like, a D because me and Keon Ellis are really cool, and I said the dm.

Speaker A:

So I'm like, bro, I just got off of, like, three flights in two nights.

Speaker A:

Is this how you feel when you're on a road trip and he just text you, just DM me saying, man.

Speaker A:

So I was like, all right, that's a yes for surely.

Speaker A:

Like, you probably.

Speaker A:

Probably shouldn't even took him there right now.

Speaker A:

It was off season, but, like.

Speaker A:

But, man, he's probably.

Speaker A:

And I remember talking to him in person about it, and after I said the dm, and he was just like, bro, like, no, really, like, it's.

Speaker A:

It's tough.

Speaker A:

Like, just imagine if you're in year 10 doing this.

Speaker A:

I was like, man, like, the NBA I have a new respect for the NBA players, like DJing for them and just DJing in general.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, because they're away from their kids, bro.

Speaker B:

They're away from everything the majority of the year.

Speaker B:

And you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And then even you see, obviously your front office changes, you have coaching changes, you have so many things that Sacramento players deal with so, so often.

Speaker B:

That's what Fox was so frustrated with.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker B:

I feel like the unfortunate part of like being in, like you said, just a team in an area that's.

Speaker B:

Being a fan of a team in an area that's not solidified as, like, as like a, one of those teams yet or something like that is you have a lot of those changes that can be very, very, I don't know, demotivating for players in a sense.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And we don't think about that as, as fans.

Speaker B:

We look at it like, bro, come on, how'd you guys miss that?

Speaker B:

But realistically, it's like, look at what they're dealing with right now.

Speaker B:

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

A lot, man.

Speaker A:

A lot.

Speaker B:

Oh, definitely.

Speaker B:

So I got a question, bro.

Speaker B:

Keep it on the keys for a little longer.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Give me your top five Kings.

Speaker A:

Kings of all time.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Personally don't have.

Speaker B:

It could be biased.

Speaker A:

Does it have to be an ony order?

Speaker B:

Yeah, no, it could be biased.

Speaker B:

If you want to put Ronnie Price first, you could.

Speaker A:

Mitch Richmond.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

C Web J.

Speaker A:

Will.

Speaker A:

Mike Bibby.

Speaker A:

This fourth one is always.

Speaker A:

Or like, not the fourth one.

Speaker A:

The fifth one's always tough.

Speaker A:

Those four for sure, though, because those four, like, are the reasons why I fell in love with Kings basketball.

Speaker A:

Ah, this is.

Speaker A:

The fifth one is always really tough just because, like, it changes so many times.

Speaker A:

But like DeMarcus cousins.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker B:

That's me.

Speaker A:

I think, I think.

Speaker A:

And I, I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker A:

With demarcus, the other four, I feel like is self explanatory.

Speaker A:

But demarcus was like, man, he, he gave me a lot of hope during a lot of times when the Kings were like, it was just dope to watch the best center in the world.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Go to work.

Speaker A:

And I just think to myself, like, man, just imagine if like people actually wanted to come to Sacramento and play with him.

Speaker A:

Like, what if John Wall in his prime came to Sacramento to play with DeMarcus?

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, like, we would have.

Speaker A:

We would have, probably would have got to a championship level team for sure.

Speaker A:

And like demarcus had to endure and accomplish so much at.

Speaker A:

He was 18, 19 years old when he got drafted, bro.

Speaker B:

So he was a kid.

Speaker A:

He was a kid.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

People don't think of that and they don't even think of what he inherited.

Speaker B:

To that Maloof and all that fiasco, everything that had just gone down with ownership, like there was just so much, so much.

Speaker B:

And you put all that on an 18 year old kid and you expect a little bit of emotion not to come out on the court.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

That was the least of their issues.

Speaker B:

I felt like, yeah, but I was.

Speaker A:

Like, bro, don't even.

Speaker A:

And like shout out to like our ownership.

Speaker A:

Like, VC really had his back doing a lot of those things.

Speaker A:

Like, Vivek is like, man, he's, he's, he's a, like, I never really met him formally, but like, he's a really cool dude.

Speaker A:

I feel like when it comes to understanding why his players are a certain way and like DeMarcus wasn't because, I mean, I can go in the wrong way, especially when you're a young black man.

Speaker A:

Like, it can go in a whole different direction of like angry black man type stuff.

Speaker A:

But like, man, they, I feel like the Kings really did the best that they could to like be behind him.

Speaker A:

And I could be wrong, but like, I feel like obviously the press didn't do that well outside of the Sacramento Kings and just in general, but I feel like the organization did the best that they could to get behind him.

Speaker A:

And, and yeah, it sucks that he got traded away, but I, as I got older, I understood it just because, like, you know, they're trying to get some pieces and it's hard.

Speaker A:

It's similar to the Herschel Walker trade that Jerry Jones did with the Cowboys.

Speaker A:

It eventually paid off and I think they were trying to do the same thing with demarcus Cousins and it ended up working.

Speaker A:

And you know, we had a playoff run, but, you know, we didn't get to the finals.

Speaker A:

But that's, that's why he's like one of my favorites because he endured so much and he honestly took that trade to the chin.

Speaker A:

He didn't really bad talk us and just kind of, you know, and he was still playing great with the Pelicans.

Speaker A:

And then he tore his Achilles and that, that broke my heart, bro.

Speaker B:

He was being filmed the moment he found out and the way he like responded was, was really respectful to the city of Sacramento.

Speaker B:

And I feel like our generation really saw everything he did.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And like how he gave back to the youth and how he was involved in certain things.

Speaker B:

But I feel like there was an older generation who really just villainized.

Speaker B:

Villainized him at all together when it's like I. I feel like a lot of us looked at it the same way.

Speaker B:

Like that he was literally the best center in the league.

Speaker B:

We were able to watch him and this, that the other into to other people.

Speaker B:

He was just like, oh, he's a whiner.

Speaker B:

Oh, this it is like, I used to hate the slander, bro.

Speaker B:

He's 28.

Speaker A:

That older generation comes from a different time where that was like, okay.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, bro, that's never should be like, not.

Speaker A:

Not trying to not.

Speaker A:

Some of the stuff that he would do was like, Id like, come on, boogie.

Speaker A:

That's crazy.

Speaker A:

But like some of the stuff I'm like looking back at it like, bro, it wasn't that.

Speaker B:

I've seen Shaq do it.

Speaker B:

I've seen Barkley do worse.

Speaker A:

We've seen Draymond do worse.

Speaker A:

Yeah, bro.

Speaker B:

The fact that.

Speaker B:

Fact that he got blackballed the way he did when I think he was still easily probably like not he wasn't a top tier center, but he still could have played.

Speaker A:

He's like, honestly, bro should still be in the NBA.

Speaker A:

Like, like for real.

Speaker B:

They did him dirty.

Speaker A:

Like, they did him dirty.

Speaker A:

And it's like, I don't like, I don't like it when play.

Speaker A:

Like, that's why I root for players like that.

Speaker A:

Like him.

Speaker A:

Like Russell Russbrook.

Speaker A:

Like, because the agenda that's laid on them is already laid for them not to win.

Speaker A:

So if they're still in the league still, it makes me happy.

Speaker A:

That's why I love bro.

Speaker A:

I will like, I'll die on that hill with Russell Westbrook for sure.

Speaker A:

He's like one of my favorite point guards because like, bro really brought passion and love to.

Speaker A:

To.

Speaker A:

To the position.

Speaker A:

Like, we never seen a point guard like Russell Westbrook.

Speaker A:

Like, we seen a.

Speaker A:

Like Derrick Rose was crazy athletic but.

Speaker A:

But we never.

Speaker A:

He.

Speaker A:

He wasn't.

Speaker A:

He wasn't filled with the energy that Russell Westbrook was filled with, which is no knock to D. Rose animosity on some like bro D. Rose, D. Rose and.

Speaker A:

And Russell Rbrook or D. Rose is one of my favorite point guards, if not my fave.

Speaker A:

I think it's always a.

Speaker A:

A battle between him and White Chocolate.

Speaker A:

But like, but man, like, like Russell Westbrook, DeMarcus Cousins, those guys.

Speaker A:

I don't care what you say about them, bro.

Speaker A:

They're.

Speaker A:

They're warriors for sure.

Speaker B:

How do you feel about the recent rumors with Westbrook.

Speaker A:

It's like.

Speaker A:

But the child in me is excited because I'm like, that would be fire.

Speaker B:

But the fit is like.

Speaker A:

But then the fit is like.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't know.

Speaker A:

Like, man, I'm like.

Speaker A:

I'm kind of biased with.

Speaker A:

With.

Speaker A:

With.

Speaker A:

With Russ.

Speaker A:

So, like, if he was to come, I'll be happy.

Speaker A:

But if we have to get rid of, like, a Malik Monk, I'm like, ah, nah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, I love Malik.

Speaker B:

I mean, I heard that they're just gonna.

Speaker B:

They're only willing to give up Carter.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So it's like, at that point, I mean, I still like Devin Carter.

Speaker A:

That sucks, too, because I really watched his development, and he was like.

Speaker A:

And I really.

Speaker A:

Even in summer league, he's really coming into his own.

Speaker A:

But at the same time, it's just like, I get it from an organization standpoint where we need something.

Speaker A:

We need some type of championship pedigree.

Speaker A:

Not saying because Russ didn't win a championship, but he still has that pedigree.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That edge that we don't see elsewhere, in a sense.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Just don't take Monk.

Speaker A:

Please, man.

Speaker A:

Just don't take Monk.

Speaker B:

Not at all.

Speaker B:

I'm never eating that pizza guys again.

Speaker B:

If they did.

Speaker A:

Oh, God.

Speaker B:

They already took Isaiah Thomas from me.

Speaker A:

I'm not to going lie, brother.

Speaker A:

I already stopped after it was gone.

Speaker A:

Stop, bro.

Speaker A:

After it was gone.

Speaker A:

There's no reason for me to come back to pizza guy.

Speaker B:

I was pissed, bro.

Speaker A:

Unless they want.

Speaker A:

Unless they want to give me a sponsorship.

Speaker A:

That's another story.

Speaker B:

That's something to say, bro.

Speaker B:

We've had some heartaches as.

Speaker B:

As Kings fed.

Speaker B:

What would you say is your biggest heartache?

Speaker B:

Personally, like, when it comes to losing.

Speaker A:

A player, like, losing a player or losing a playoff series, we could be both.

Speaker B:

But player, I'm thinking, because, like, if I Look back, DeMarcus Cousins was what that really hurt, bro.

Speaker A:

DeMarcus Cousins.

Speaker B:

Fox hurt me.

Speaker B:

I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker B:

Fox, yeah.

Speaker A:

Fox hurt me.

Speaker A:

It hurt me bad, too, bro.

Speaker A:

Isaiah Thomas hurt me bad.

Speaker B:

And seeing him turn up on the Celtics like that, when I knew he could have done it in Sacramento, knew.

Speaker A:

He could have done in Sacramento.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, seeing him go, goodbye, was that.

Speaker A:

Was that hurt, like, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker A:

Isaiah Thomas was like, he's up there probably, like.

Speaker A:

And then even, like, some of the older guys, like, like, seeing Peja go was sad.

Speaker A:

I was kind of.

Speaker A:

I was really seeing Peja and Mike Bibby go because they Were one of the last to go.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So seeing them go, I was like, this hurts, bro.

Speaker A:

This is really because you want to see those guys retire as kings.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I think, yeah, they did.

Speaker B:

See Webb pissed me off sending them out to the Sixers like that, bro.

Speaker A:

That shit hurt.

Speaker B:

Packaging with Matt Barnes and set him up.

Speaker B:

Come on.

Speaker A:

It was good to have Matt Orange back in sack, but it was just like, damn, like, yeah, those, those, those, those early get rid of for like those.

Speaker B:

Even Damon recently hurt me.

Speaker B:

I'm not going to lie.

Speaker B:

I like Davion was dope.

Speaker A:

They, I, I, I wasn't too hurt with, with Davon because we had Keon.

Speaker B:

But like, and I love Keon too, but I just love that that how they both.

Speaker A:

And it's just like Davion as, as a 511 dude.

Speaker A:

You, you, you like, you root for a day beyond.

Speaker B:

Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker A:

Because bro, I, I walked up to bro, not trying to put his height out there, but we for show the same.

Speaker A:

There's no way he's six foot one, bro.

Speaker A:

I'm sorry, bro.

Speaker B:

Well, that's how I felt about it when I met him, bro, when I was a little kid because like I said, we used to go down.

Speaker B:

It was like by had to be like 12th birthday or something.

Speaker B:

And this was like we had Hassan Whiteside not dressed up back then.

Speaker B:

This is when he was like D league coming in sometimes.

Speaker B:

We had Isaiah Thomas, we had Tyree Week, we had cousins.

Speaker B:

I remember I had this little ball.

Speaker A:

Oh, that tyrant hurt me not to interrupt you, but that's how you're gonna hurt me a little bit too.

Speaker B:

And then just how his career played off hurt me.

Speaker A:

Oh, so sad.

Speaker B:

But I don't even remember you said.

Speaker A:

You were, you had a ball, you were getting a ball sign.

Speaker B:

I'm a little kid.

Speaker B:

I'm like 12.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And granted I'm, I'm a little tall for my age.

Speaker B:

I wasn't hella tall, but like, but I know I remember like looking at my eye type, like being like, I could play at the NBA.

Speaker A:

But like we have, we have no idea what it takes.

Speaker A:

He's probably the best at his height to ever play ever.

Speaker B:

To think about like what he was able to do at that.

Speaker B:

And just even Boston watching his highlight table.

Speaker B:

Boston and the way he run around.

Speaker A:

The fact that he was doing that with a bad hip is bit, bro.

Speaker A:

And I think about this to this day.

Speaker A:

If he never injures his hip or if he not even that, if he never keeps playing on his hip he's still in the NBA because he could have been like, one of those superstars, were like, man, I'm hurt.

Speaker A:

I'm about to sit out and get surgery.

Speaker A:

I know it's my.

Speaker A:

My contract year, but y' all go sign me or someone else is.

Speaker A:

He could have just did that, but, man, he wanted to keep playing, and it's.

Speaker A:

It sucked because the business side got him.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, all right, well, we know your hips hurt, so we're gonna trade you.

Speaker A:

And, man, that.

Speaker B:

That's so, so good.

Speaker B:

But I. Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker B:

And just seeing how short he was.

Speaker B:

Like, I said I was like, maybe turning 13.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I was pretty young, though.

Speaker B:

Like I said, I was.

Speaker B:

Yeah, pretty young.

Speaker B:

I remember.

Speaker B:

And just being able to.

Speaker B:

He was taller than me still, but you know what I'm saying, Like, being able to see, like, basically when you got, like, DeMarcus and all these other guys just towering over you, maybe I can make it an NBA.

Speaker B:

But like you said, you don't realize, like, no, this guy is.

Speaker B:

He's way better than these guys.

Speaker B:

He's just a lot smaller.

Speaker A:

I used to think about that with Bugsy.

Speaker A:

Like, I was like, oh, Bugsy's five, six.

Speaker A:

I'm five, six.

Speaker A:

I can do it.

Speaker A:

My dad's like, you gotta play basketball every day.

Speaker A:

Like, every day, like, 24 hours.

Speaker A:

You gotta play.

Speaker B:

I was like, spud webs, five, five.

Speaker B:

I think I could do it.

Speaker B:

And then I see him just yamming.

Speaker B:

I'm like, five, five.

Speaker A:

It's like, you got to be gifted to be that short to be dunking is crazy.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

There's something to say, like.

Speaker B:

Like you said about any sub 6 foot NBA player.

Speaker B:

Even when you look at, like, a Donovan Mitchell, like, what he's able to do at his size is crazy, bro.

Speaker A:

It's wild.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

It's like the quarterback position, too.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

Like some of these quarterbacks being short.

Speaker B:

I like Wilson when he came in, bro.

Speaker A:

Russ is like the same height as me.

Speaker A:

How are you seeing over.

Speaker A:

Like, I've done.

Speaker A:

I did the Seattle Seahawks training camp camp before.

Speaker A:

Like, I DJ their training camp.

Speaker A:

And I'm looking at these offensive linemen.

Speaker A:

I'm like, hell, like, they don't look.

Speaker A:

They don't look tall until they, like, stand up straight and you're like, like, how can you see over that?

Speaker B:

Like, he had a six.

Speaker B:

He has a six, seven guy over him.

Speaker A:

Six, seven, six.

Speaker A:

Not even seeing, like, flicking it like this.

Speaker A:

Like, it's crazy, bro.

Speaker B:

It's wild, bruh.

Speaker B:

And see, you see there's been some amazing short quarterbacks from Drew Brees.

Speaker B:

Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray.

Speaker A:

I don't think Steve Young was, was that tall either.

Speaker A:

I think he was like.

Speaker B:

Yeah, he's pretty short too, I think.

Speaker B:

And just.

Speaker B:

Yeah, some.

Speaker B:

You got to be really gifted.

Speaker B:

I feel like, like quarter, I mean, running back, you could be Edward Del.

Speaker A:

You be Maurice Jones.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

You be too.

Speaker B:

Just, just go.

Speaker B:

But that ain't working in the NBA at quarterback.

Speaker A:

Quarterback.

Speaker A:

That's crazy.

Speaker B:

No, but tell us a little bit more about yourself, bro.

Speaker B:

Like what, outside of.

Speaker B:

Obviously we talked about balance.

Speaker B:

Everything that you do already and, and how it's tough to balance what it, what is it that you do for yourself to kind of recenter and refocus things and what are your interests and you know what I'm saying things of that nature.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

I love to run.

Speaker A:

I'm like like a runner.

Speaker A:

Runner.

Speaker A:

Like not in the physique to run.

Speaker A:

Like to like, I don't look like a runner right now, but like, like when I was like running more consistently, I was like super.

Speaker A:

Just you can tell, like, oh, it's less to run.

Speaker A:

I love exercise.

Speaker A:

I just love being active.

Speaker A:

I meditate a lot.

Speaker A:

Like I, I always find like an hour or two to like, I do like a two hour meditation run where that, that first hour or first 30 minutes is really just me sitting down and in silence.

Speaker A:

And then the next is listening to music, then the next is staring at a wall for a long period of time.

Speaker A:

Then the next is, you know, jumping, doing jump.

Speaker A:

I just love to, to like be free during those meditations.

Speaker A:

So I do that a lot.

Speaker A:

Meditation.

Speaker A:

I actually have a weird interest in feeding geese.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I go to the park sometimes and I feed geese and I'll talk to them.

Speaker A:

And like, I don't really tell people that.

Speaker A:

But like usually like since I am a full time dj, a lot of my time is spent in here.

Speaker A:

Like I, I make beats as well too and I create like a bunch of stuff from my head.

Speaker A:

So a lot of time, like you just need a break from everything.

Speaker A:

Like usually, you know, if I'm creating, I've already worked out, I've already meditated, so I can't like work out and meditate again.

Speaker A:

Like, I mean I can but like sometimes I'm like looking for another outlet and that became my other outlet which is going to the park and, and feeding geese seeds.

Speaker A:

It's like the weirdest thing.

Speaker A:

I remember getting into like an Altercation.

Speaker A:

Not an altercation with a discussion with the Russell.

Speaker A:

Because we were.

Speaker A:

We were at the park, and, like, we saw some ducks and geeses.

Speaker A:

I'm like.

Speaker A:

He said, oh, look at these ducks.

Speaker A:

I'm like, no, those are geese.

Speaker A:

And he's like, no, those are ducks.

Speaker A:

I'm like, no, I know geese.

Speaker A:

This is what I do, bro.

Speaker A:

I do that.

Speaker A:

Like, I feed geeses.

Speaker A:

But, like.

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker A:

But, like, I really, really enjoy, like, that.

Speaker A:

Like, just because it's out the ordinary for sure.

Speaker A:

But it's, like, really just.

Speaker A:

It's like, it's really peaceful out there and just seeing how they maneuver.

Speaker A:

And sometimes I'm still studying, like, like, geeses and ducks.

Speaker A:

Because sometimes I'll go to the park and they won't be there.

Speaker A:

And I, like, I wonder, like, oh, maybe they traveled.

Speaker A:

I think it's like, a certain.

Speaker A:

They travel a certain direction for a couple months and stuff.

Speaker A:

And I'm always interested by, like, stuff outside of me.

Speaker A:

Me, like, you know, just the.

Speaker A:

The world in general.

Speaker A:

Like, I love animals, for sure, but, like, I'm always interested in that.

Speaker A:

So, like, that's always a dope getaway to do.

Speaker A:

And I really love spending time with my family and my friends.

Speaker A:

My fiance, that's, like, my best friend.

Speaker A:

She is my best friend, and it's really cool to spend time with her.

Speaker A:

But outside of, like, a lot of that, it's still always very much centered around music.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm like.

Speaker A:

I'm really like the Kevin Durant slash kawhi Leonard of DJing.

Speaker A:

Because I'm a Kevin D. A gym rat.

Speaker A:

I'm a DJ rat.

Speaker A:

Like, I will DJ if you guys.

Speaker A:

I'll DJ right now if I want.

Speaker A:

Like, I really love music.

Speaker A:

I'll listen to music all the time, whether it's new music, old music, and you could talk to my fiance.

Speaker A:

I'll, like, ramble about, like.

Speaker A:

Like, oh, this drum pattern is crazy.

Speaker A:

h, this sample has to be from:

Speaker A:

And I'll be researching.

Speaker A:

I watch podcasts on DJs.

Speaker A:

Like, I watch DJ sets from, like, sun up to sundown.

Speaker A:

And I really just am a fan and a student of my craft, for sure.

Speaker A:

So, like, I mean, those are the things about me and the things that, you know, I think make me me is music, bro.

Speaker A:

Like, since a kid, I've been dancing, like, forever.

Speaker A:

Like, I've always danced around my family and friends, but always had, like, a weird, timid shyness to me.

Speaker A:

So it was like, some of my Family knew me as this like man, he's like energetic.

Speaker A:

And some of my family were just like when I became a dj, like, what the fuck?

Speaker A:

Like it's, it was like, it's.

Speaker A:

I was a very back and forth kid.

Speaker A:

Like, I wasn't fully.

Speaker A:

I was confident when music came on, but then when it came off, if someone would just like to laugh at me, I'll be like, ah, hell no, I'm about to go back in this shell.

Speaker A:

So like to be where I'm at now, just to be fully, to walk in my truth is truly amazing.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, and, and yeah, for sure.

Speaker A:

That's, that's what I can say right now about myself for surely.

Speaker B:

Oh no.

Speaker B:

Would you say you, you found a lot of your confidence in within music?

Speaker A:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker A:

Because in high school I was bullied a lot.

Speaker A:

So that confidence, when you're bullied the way I was bullied, it gets stripped away and you have to like find it in something else, sadly.

Speaker A:

And it's hard for you to find it in yourself.

Speaker A:

And when I was trying to find it, I was trying to find it with sports and I wasn't very good at basketball.

Speaker A:

So it's like when you're not good at something, it's not going to help you with your confidence at all.

Speaker A:

But I knew so much about the game.

Speaker A:

Like I knew a lot about basketball and stuff.

Speaker A:

And then I started playing soccer and I even was the mascot in high school.

Speaker A:

So I was like, yeah, I was really searching for like, what can help like build this like energy inside me and, and being a mascot, I was really good at that because it's just similar to DJing.

Speaker A:

It's like you're really hyping a crowd up and you're really putting yourself out there and stuff.

Speaker A:

But the only thing was like my mom and pops didn't like it because I'm behind this mask and stuff.

Speaker A:

And like people are looking at me more like a, like a joke than anything.

Speaker A:

And I kind of got fed up with it too.

Speaker A:

I didn't want my whole identity to be this.

Speaker A:

Our.

Speaker A:

It was, our mascot was a bear.

Speaker A:

But I didn't want our, my whole identity to be a bear.

Speaker A:

Yeah, so music was like always something I always ran to no matter what.

Speaker A:

And that's when I was just always doing music in the back end and behind, you know, the scenes and stuff like that.

Speaker A:

So yeah, music was like that real, that real saving grace for me for sure.

Speaker B:

No, that's dope.

Speaker B:

That's dope, bro.

Speaker B:

Well, before we get out of here, man.

Speaker B:

We ask everybody.

Speaker B:

We gotta.

Speaker B:

We gotta get one piece of advice.

Speaker B:

You would tell a young creative, somebody that might be looking to.

Speaker B:

Looking up to you, looking to be in your shoes, or maybe just somebody looking for something.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

What is one piece of advice that, you know, sticks, really, really sticks with you, and you've really anchored who you are in that piece of advice, man.

Speaker A:

That's a really good question.

Speaker A:

Damn, man, I don't know.

Speaker A:

Like, first and foremost, thank you guys for having me.

Speaker A:

And then second podcasts are always interesting because, like, I'll be.

Speaker A:

I'll answer questions.

Speaker A:

I'm like, damn, I'm answering this question too.

Speaker A:

Or I'll be like, damn, I'll answer this question too short.

Speaker A:

But, like, man, to answer your question on or not, not really your question.

Speaker A:

But to give advice to a creative out there, bro, have fun.

Speaker A:

Or girl, or whoever you are, have fun.

Speaker A:

Like, enjoy the journey.

Speaker A:

Don't think about when.

Speaker A:

Just think about now.

Speaker A:

Like, that's the best advice I can give because you think about when too much.

Speaker A:

You're not gonna work.

Speaker A:

You're not gonna be in the now.

Speaker A:

You'll be thinking about when I'm gonna own this yacht or when I'm gonna own this jet.

Speaker A:

And then when you get to that jet, you're gonna want something else.

Speaker A:

So it's like, just worry about the now.

Speaker A:

If you have a show that you have coming up and you're worried about who's gonna come, don't worry about who's gonna come.

Speaker A:

The people that will be there are the people that you're.

Speaker A:

You should be serving and you should be loving and caring and stuff of that nature.

Speaker A:

And it's just.

Speaker A:

You just have to worry about what's in front of you, because if you just keep going with that attitude, you'll be in front of 500,000 soon.

Speaker A:

Like, we've seen what the Russell has done consistently.

Speaker A:

We've seen what I've done consistently.

Speaker A:

We've seen what you guys have done consistently recently.

Speaker A:

And it's just like, just stay your race.

Speaker A:

Don't pay too much attention to other people.

Speaker A:

It's hard because, you know, Instagram is very comparison.

Speaker A:

But, man, just understand that, like, your Instagram is your Instagram.

Speaker A:

And when you post on Instagram, you don't post the negative, you post the positive or you post something great.

Speaker A:

So just remember that.

Speaker A:

Remember that other people are doing the same thing.

Speaker A:

So you may be comparing yourself to someone, but they're just posting what they need to Post to stay relevant or to stay on it.

Speaker A:

So it's like, you can't really compare yourself to them because they're not posting everything.

Speaker A:

They're not putting everything out there.

Speaker A:

Same thing with reality TV shows.

Speaker A:

Same thing with this stupid Love island thing.

Speaker A:

You can't compare yourself to those things because you're only seeing what you see through a screen or on a phone.

Speaker A:

So just stay your race and just, you know, be in the now.

Speaker A:

Don't think too much about the win.

Speaker A:

Just be in the now.

Speaker B:

Oh, that's dope, bro.

Speaker B:

That's dope.

Speaker B:

I definitely would reiterate that to anybody, because I feel like even ourselves, we.

Speaker B:

Everybody gets caught up in, like, you know, kind of have not.

Speaker A:

What.

Speaker B:

What do you not have?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Mindset.

Speaker B:

When it's like, bro, flip your.

Speaker B:

Flip your perspective.

Speaker B:

See what you do have.

Speaker B:

Who.

Speaker B:

Who is showing up for you?

Speaker B:

Who is, you know, supporting you and stuff?

Speaker B:

And why.

Speaker B:

Why aren't you of, you know, finding ways to water those.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Plants and like that.

Speaker B:

So I do think that even myself, that's something I gotta take, you know, and run with a little more, too, because, you know, sometimes we're just so stuck on what.

Speaker B:

What we can.

Speaker B:

But we can get it where we can go.

Speaker A:

Even myself, too, bro.

Speaker A:

Like, and just don't die on that.

Speaker A:

Imagine, like.

Speaker A:

Like, our imaginations are so important, and sometimes we die off that.

Speaker A:

But it's just, man, you're like.

Speaker A:

I feel like imagination and confidence go hand in hand.

Speaker A:

If you have a big imagination, you're gonna have confidence.

Speaker A:

Like, I imagine myself being at Coachella one day.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, but that's also me being confident to know that I will be at Coachella one day.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, just.

Speaker A:

I always say that with everybody, like, and myself included, I also need to take my own advice, because I'm a human.

Speaker A:

Every now and then, I'll wake up and be like, oh, I'm not gonna do Coachella.

Speaker A:

There's no way.

Speaker A:

Like, look at what all the stuff I have have to do.

Speaker A:

But then I look at it like, man.

Speaker A:

But look at all the stuff I have to do.

Speaker A:

That's a beautiful thing.

Speaker A:

Like, I get to do these things.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Like, it's not.

Speaker A:

I have to.

Speaker A:

I get to.

Speaker A:

I'm blessed to do these things.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker B:

No, that's dope, bro.

Speaker B:

Every.

Speaker B:

It's dope to see, bro.

Speaker B:

And we're rooting for you on this.

Speaker A:

Side for y', all, too, right?

Speaker B:

Definitely, bro.

Speaker B:

I want to hear a little more of what you have coming what you can look forward to and where to find you.

Speaker A:

For sure we have more out the trunk episodes coming.

Speaker A:

I just put out a beautiful new single called Kushe which in our language means.

Speaker A:

My language back home is Sierra Leone means hello.

Speaker A:

So go check that out on Spotify.

Speaker A:

Apple Music.

Speaker A:

It's actually Malachi shantay and featuring LaRussell and it's a really good record.

Speaker A:

You guys can find me at DJ Kenzo, DJ K N, underscore Z, underscore O on Instagram as well as it's not Twitter no more, it's X. I don't even be on there like that.

Speaker A:

But like official DJ Ken's on Tick Tock and man, you can just a lot of dope events coming where it's not an ordinary DJ show or set.

Speaker A:

So just expect a lot of weird and interesting fun things.

Speaker B:

That's what I like to see.

Speaker A:

Not weird in a bad way though, but like different.

Speaker A:

Definitely weird in a good way where it's like, like I've never seen a DJ do some like this.

Speaker A:

Like this is very, very interesting.

Speaker B:

Like I'm excited to see even just seeing like the pop out pop ups that are coming up soon.

Speaker B:

Just the interactive, bro.

Speaker B:

I'm excited to see and I'm gonna try to try to pull up as much as I can.

Speaker A:

Come on.

Speaker A:

Appreciate y'.

Speaker B:

All.

Speaker B:

No, definitely, bro.

Speaker B:

But thank you again, bro.

Speaker B:

Thank you for coming out.

Speaker B:

Appreciate you all for watching.

Speaker B:

If you haven't already, like comment, subscribe and tune in next week.

Speaker A:

Tune in.

Speaker A:

Yes, sir.

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Unquestionable the Podcast
"Unquestionable the Podcast" brings together four long-time friends for a fun and lively exploration of humor, curiosity, entertainment, and current events. Join us as we dive into a wide range of topics with a blend of wit, camaraderie, and unfiltered conversations. From our quirkiest pastimes and the latest in entertainment to hilarious takes on current events, each episode is packed with laughs, insights, and the kind of banter only old friends can share. Tune in for your weekly dose of fun and friendship, where no topic is off-limits and the good times are guaranteed.